My mare keeps bucking out in stable help!

WHY? LISTEN TO HER! And yes! I was shouting!!! Is it not possible to leave her out overnight? She seems to be trying to tell you something! It might be anything setting her off - but it could be affecting her mentally!!! Consider her point of view.....
 
Slightly different view, My mare unexpectedly started doing this one day, I watched her and worked out she didnt like the tie on the tail bandage (we were showing the next day) as i presume it was tickling her like a fly. So one, check your rugs etc she has on overnight.

Second, it sounds to me like she doesnt like her neighbours too, make sure she doesnt run out of hay/haylage overnight and like other said give her the most amount of turnout and put her out first.
 
Looks like op closed last nights thread because people kept banging on about the number of rugs.
In this "summer" thread horse is wearing a fly sheet and the problem is still there so doubt its over rugging.
I wouldn't be bringing this horse in at all if she were mine. I think I would be finding a lovely big field with good grazing to occupy her, a companion and a field shelter.
Good luck with her op, must be a pain.
 
Alyth said:
WHY? LISTEN TO HER! And yes! I was shouting!!! Is it not possible to leave her out overnight? She seems to be trying to tell you something! It might be anything setting her off - but it could be affecting her mentally!!! Consider her point of view.....
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In this post though she had legs bandaged all night which probably would help her being overheated. I know I wouldn't be comfortable with bandages legs at night in August! (Which is when this post is from)
 
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WHY? LISTEN TO HER! And yes! I was shouting!!! Is it not possible to leave her out overnight? She seems to be trying to tell you something! It might be anything setting her off - but it could be affecting her mentally!!! Consider her point of view.....
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Yes! Poor poor mare!

She doesn't do it while turned out. She does it when stabled. She does it when stabled in the summer, she does it while stabled in the winter. She is injuring herself. Do you really really think that's a horse who's just bored?

The horse is distressed. It does't matter why she's distressed - if your horse is distressed and acting abnormally, it is a welfare issue.

There is a clear situation where the mare doesn't do it - when turned out. But instead, everybody works through all the ways to suppress and punish the behaviour - water sprays, mats, carpets, bandaged legs, extra rugs, sedating her with "calmers".

The mare is doing her absolute utmost to convey her distress at being stabled. Listen to her and act on it.
 
Actually, I'd disagree that just turning her out more is definitely the solution. With my mare, it looks like it was one of the very few ways she showed she was uncomfortable with ulcers. She had very very few other signs, and I'm glad I listened to her and had her scoped rather than turning her out more and deciding she was a horse who just wasn't happy stabled overnight.

We treated the ulcers, then once we knew the pain had gone, used a quitkick to tell her the remaining habitual kicking wasn't allowed... she got squirted about twice and instantly and completely calmly stopped, without replacing that behaviour with any other behaviour. She is genuinely a million times calmer and safer now both of those things have been pretty simply done. She actually likes being in, stuffing her face, waiting impatiently to come in and is incredibly chilled. The only times she looks like getting worked up now is if, for example, the hunt come past or there's some kind of commotion which would light up any horse.

I don't disagree that this horse would benefit from more turnout, it sounds like it certainly would. But what I'm saying is that just turning her out may remove the helpful sign she's displaying but not resolve a problem underneath. Finding that problem is a process of elimination, which should include trying any or all of the above things, including protecting her legs, looking at rugs, quitkick if you think it's a "benign" habit. The truth is that there's very rarely one right answer for all horses, so trying everything and properly investigating for discomfort are the right way to deal with it longer term.
 
Completely agree philamena there is never one right answer :) thanks everyone for comments :D now have a solution as said on other post gunna try a few things and now know a matter of causes dat mite be the cause of her troubles thanks guys xD
 
How did you manage to get the other post closed so quickly,but then reopened and with latest posts tagged onto the original summer thread ?

How confusing.
 
Cut out the Speedibeat.

One of ours is very sensitive to sugars. I thought the Speedibeat would be fine. She went super whappy on it. Stopped feeding it and she was back to her normal level of whappy :cool:
 
My warmblood does it too, he used to be in a big american barn at livery, he occasionally done it there. Then we move and put up wooden stables and he kicked three holes in the wall within a week. So we thought we'd put rubber mating on the walls and he kicked higher and put a hole above the rubber mating. He also has a grill in his stable so he can see his field mate. We ended up calling the vet and all he said was he thinks he is stressed by his new environment.

I can't risk putting him back in the stable, so he now lives out and seems much happier. He is also on Magnitude.

I hope this helps, seems like two peas out of the same pod.
 
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