my new cob is too much for me .........how much ?

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i purchased a lovely 13.2hh piebald gypsy cob gelding.
just 5yrs, tons of mane and tail .
his sale however appears to be have "staged"
to get the best from him
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he is now a very bolshy to handle git.
to ride hes ok in manage or hacking on the road,
hit grass then he can do some amazing moves i never knew possible lol
he will be a smasher but all i wanted was a quiet hack
im too old to battle with him .
is he worthless as is ..............or a project for someone ?
hes cracking to look at lovely neat pretty head , and nicely marked. anyone fancy a swap ?
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I would guess at £1000 he sounds as if he would make a nice horse but the bolshyness needs to be stopped
When you hack do you hack out with others and has be been jumped?
 
sounds lovely - how long have you had him at your yard?
if it's only been a short time then I'd suggest giving it a bit longer and being uber firm with him - getting him to settle in whilst being strict might hopefully then let him calm down a bit - if you could get a bit of work into him - (get a second rider) just to overcome the fizz...and he could turn out to be a dream
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if he is good enough to show at county level and do well you could be looking at a reasonable amount of money.

otherwise he is unfortunately probably only worth around £1500 as at his size the majority of potential purchasers will want him for a child.
 
he hacks on his own and in company
he pops a jump and seems to like it.
if someone offered me £1000 id take it :}
although i pyed £1800 6 weeks ago :{
 
sorry - didn't actually answer the question -
£1000 might be too much considering his height - but coloured cobs always seem to go for quite alot! However, to get him sold put a price tag of £8-900 and you'll soon get him shifted I would have thought. I know it's only a couple of hundred difference to 1k but sounds a lot less...
 
Was it a private sale, have you spoke to the people you bought him from, has his he changed or was he like this as soon as you brought him home?
 
ive tried to be firm but he walks all over me :{
hes more interested in my partners mare than listening to me.
im not a confident /assertive rider or handler.
i know hes not for me ........
i just want a happy hacker .
cutting my losses :{
 
wildwest might you find that it is easier to sell him (for a little bit more money) with a clear conscience if you splash out on a just a few sessions with a trainer? With a bit of ground work to improve the handling (no need for you to be left in a ditch near the side of a field if you don't feel like it) you could sell him as "good to handle/hack on roads/school but excitable in fields so needs experienced rider" as that applies to *most* non-brain-dead horses really?

Edited to ad: just read your last post and feel even more strongly abt the ground work lessons now. I had one with my share horsey when he started playing up - really good :-) it will help you with either him (if you do decide to keep) or with your 'happy hacker' in future too.
 
i think 6 weeks is plenty to realise hes not what i want,
and im paying a huge livery amount each week for a pony i dont want to ride !
hes fine with my partner as hes not frightened of him .
he knows im nervous and is taking advantage !
i shouldnt have got a youngster
 
I think you should ask more for him ask £1500 because he worth that if he doesn't muck around on the roads and can pop a little jump....he just needs firm handling on the gorund.

Plus your lucky coloured cobs are in at the mo ;P
 
I'd stick with him a little longer. Milo came to me very anxious and pushy; he used to take me skiing across the fields and several times knocked his stable down. At 17.3 it was no joke!! Another favourite trick was to jump gates from a standing start while you leant against it. He also wouldnt hack out at all.

With the help of a Chiffney, regular walks like a dog and lots of love reassurance and routine he is now a BFG and so chilled you wouldn't believe him to be the same horse.

Dont give up on him yet!!
 
He sounds lovely- can you get some help in order to give him a chance? as he could probably be a really lovely little pony! maybe just avoid taking him near grass until he is more established?

Just some thoughts I've had-What are you feeding him? amounts etc? what is his routine? do you hack him alone or in company? what tack do you ride him in, bit? has he had his teeth checked? etc etc-

good luck.
 
If you;re not a confident rider/handler then it begs the question why would you buy yourself a 5 yo in the first place and not a older schoolmaster.

I think you should sell the pony for it's own good, it's 5 years old of course it's testing the water and if you let it get away with bolshy behaviour that's how you'll end up with a ruined pony.

If you aren't a troll as wench suggests then sell the pony to a capable (maybe teenage?) rider who wants to have fun and who is able to assert more authority.

These types of post wear me out.........
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Just sell him then, for the same price you bought him, get your OH to ride him etc if he's better for your OH than you, then your not loosing anything and hopefully find a rider suited to him.
 
I don't see why the OP is being labelled a troll, she has been honest, said she is looking to sell him as he is too much for her, has repeated this and is just looking for a value, and is now being called a troll and told to sell it, which is what she wants to do anyway?!!!
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OP, it is difficult to know without seeing him, but I would put him up for £1500.
 
Fair enough if you know he isn't right for you then cut your losses. It sounds like someone confident such as your husband would not have a problem with him so maybe try selling him for what you paid six weeks ago and see what kind of response you get. He is probably just a bolshy youngster who needs someone to be firm with him.
 
If you know he's not for you and you seem pretty sure, then I think you're doing the right thing in selling him.

I would be honest in your advert and put him up for what you bought him for.
 
I paid £2500 for my cob about 5 months ago - he came with all his tack/rugs. He sounds a bit like yours except I put him in his place (my now 7 year old mare has taught me well!). From the sounds of what you're saying yours would suit a competant 8+ child, one who has done a few years riding and has a good instructor to further his education. If you are honest and are willing to wait for the right buyer I don't see why you shouldn't get what you paid.
If you can then buy yourself something through word of mouth, you might know more people now/places to look, you should get yourself something better suited. I've spent 2.5 years with my mare and it has been a roller coaster. I find more sane rides boring now but that journey definitely is not for everyone!
 
wench............troll ????????????
lady t ..........i brought a 5yr old as although not overly confident
i am experienced and capable . so didnt foresee a problem.
now there is one im experienced enough to admit i wont produce the best within this pony.
whats so hard about that ?
we cant all get it right .
all i was asking is how much you think the little fellas worth
admitting his issues , not lying like the people i got him from.
if anyone wants to pm me ill send pics as i cant try as i might add any pics !!
cos im sh*t at computers too :}
 
<font color="red"> </font> wench............troll ????????????
lady t ..........i brought a 5yr old as although not overly confident
i am experienced and capable . so didnt foresee a problem.
now there is one im experienced enough to admit i wont produce the best within this pony.
whats so hard about that ?
we cant all get it right .
all i was asking is how much you think the little fellas worth
admitting his issues , not lying like the people i got him from.
if anyone wants to pm me ill send pics as i cant try as i might add any pics !!
cos im sh*t at computers too :} <font color="red"> </font>
Seems a fair statement to me. I too was puzzled by Wench's accusation!
 
wee brown i applaud you for your effort 2.5yrs phew !!
he would no way suit a child at present :{
and i wouldnt sell to one.
on the ground he is strong enough to drag a 12 stone man across the yard .
i was thinking of advertising him for aound £900
 
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<font color="red"> </font> wench............troll ????????????
lady t ..........i brought a 5yr old as although not overly confident
i am experienced and capable . so didnt foresee a problem.
now there is one im experienced enough to admit i wont produce the best within this pony.
whats so hard about that ?
we cant all get it right .
all i was asking is how much you think the little fellas worth
admitting his issues , not lying like the people i got him from.
if anyone wants to pm me ill send pics as i cant try as i might add any pics !!
cos im sh*t at computers too :} <font color="red"> </font> wench............troll ????????????
lady t ..........i brought a 5yr old as although not overly confident
i am experienced and capable . so didnt foresee a problem.
now there is one im experienced enough to admit i wont produce the best within this pony.
whats so hard about that ?
we cant all get it right .
all i was asking is how much you think the little fellas worth
admitting his issues , not lying like the people i got him from.
if anyone wants to pm me ill send pics as i cant try as i might add any pics !!
cos im sh*t at computers too :}


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That's how I meant to post the above. I cannot see why this poster is a troll????
 
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I don't see why the OP is being labelled a troll, she has been honest, said she is looking to sell him as he is too much for her, has repeated this and is just looking for a value, and is now being called a troll and told to sell it, which is what she wants to do anyway?!!!
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OP, it is difficult to know without seeing him, but I would put him up for £1500.

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Agreed, so long as she gets him a nice home who cares if she's selling him a bit early anyway?

I'd say £1500 but be prepared to take offers and people will be a tad wary that you've not had him for long, maybe offer someone a few viewings in different situations to allay any worries abotu him?

Good luck and mayb we can help with your search for a new ned?
 
Why don't you try advertising him on a site like project horses or similar? List his good points and not so good points and that way people can get an honest idea of what they are letting themselves in for plus you should attract the kind of buyers who are looking for a little project.
Either that or maybe put him in a horse sale and describe his good/bad points unless you want to sell him privately?
You could also contact some local dealers to you and see if any would do a part exchange for something more suitable for you?
Because of his height though he is more likely to be suitable for a child or small adult. At 5 he may still have growth in him if he is a traditional cob. It all depends on his breeding, if you know of any of it and how tall his sire was. Although I must admit most stocky traditionals I have seen have been around that height, well from gypsy stock anyway.
He could be suitable for a child at a later stage once his issues are sorted out. But he does sound more suited as a project or for a dealer at this stage due to his issues as I would feel the same and not be happy about a child being given this horse to ride at the moment until his manners improve and he can respond to various handling techniques. I would have concerns over him bolting with a youngster who lacks the muscle strength to take control.
Good luck
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