My TB turned on me today, please help?

SaharaS said:
The reason I posted Caledonia is that I am a great believer that even the most experienced people will still have a billion things they do not know, it is not physically possible and even vets will often confer with one another...and whilst waiting for my vet to return my call-baring in mind I live in a valley with v bad signal and land lines are currently down,I was hoping that someone else had had a similar experience that I could learn from..for example I lost a 3yr old to grass sickness in2002 my vet at the time when I first called him out said I was being neurotic and did not come. A female vet came that eve and took tests.8 days later he wrote a written apology to me after putting her to sleep because she had grass sickness. Basically what i am trying to say is that even professional vets with many years experience do not always know everything..I do know that i know my own horse. Rather than doubting my experience, please try see it as I have no previous experience of such a drastic change simply because i have been lucky enough not to have had a horse with cushings, tumors or brain problems(thank god)..that is why I do not feel it is shameful to openly broaden my horizons rather than being blindly indignant that I know everything..which NONE of us can say. That said, thank you for your later post with the link.


At the end of the day we all love our horses and most of us would do everything we can to ensure their welfare is top priority and hindsight being the marvellous thing it is, I feel it is no bad thing to share experiences. Many of us have lost horses and would dearly love to help others avoid the pain and heartache from our experiences...no matter how silly they seem...
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Well said :D I really can't offer any particular insight for you but I will say that I wish you the best of luck, I hope this was either a very bizzare random one off that never happens again or that you manage to get to the bottom of the cause and fix it x
 
Pearlsasinger said:
I do think that if he does it again you should be prepared to hit him firmly with something, never mind flicking him with the lead-rope.
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Obviously the OP isn't going to do this - because as we know, violence never solved anything.

Good luck OP - let us know how you get on.
 
have not read the whole thread so I am sorry if I repeating what others have said but on Friday my vet was here looking at a horse that was behaving out of character and told me that cushings in horses does cause strange behavioural changes she is going to test him but said it needs to be done in about a month as it not accurate in autumn when they are changing coats, might be worth having a chat with your vet.
 
Just to add my experiences for totally out of character explosions in usually gentle horses;

Stray voltage from electric fencing caused my horses to suddenly become very dangerous when leading in from the field. I didn't feel a thing, but each horse reacted the same way at the same spot ,shod and unshod,they behaved identically on the same morning.

Recently, two horses on different days, got stung by wasps. One in the ear, the other on the neck. Both suddenly exploded, causing one of the riders to be thrown off. The other made a hasty dismount. Totally out of character.
 
I know a few people have already said it, but I thought 'cushings' when I read the original post.

A friend at the yard has the most lovely, kind, sweet, well behaved Arab (had him since birth) and he suddenly went bonkers! Also had fits! Very scarey! At first they thought 'brain tumour', but it turned out to be cushings. He is being treated very successfully now and she's riding him again. He has returned to his usual self (although I would be very reluctant to ride him myself). She had resigned herself to saying 'good bye', so she sees every day as a bonus now, I think. :)
 
1) Get the vet out. Its one thing having a bit of a powermach and jig about in hand, its another thing aiming for your owners face :eek: Get the vet to give him the full works, check for lameness, get bloods done, ask him to look for sensative area's on your gelding etc.

2) If you have any electric fencing make sure it isn't earthing. I was leading 2 mares out who were idiots but generally behaved themselvs. They both lept forward, spun and dragged me into the air with them. The electric fence was earthing and the current was travelling up their shoes!

That is the avenue I would go down anyway :)
 
Hello all...another quick thank you for the extra comments on here since my last warble..little snippets are very valuable so I'm very grateful..I booked the vet to come out today & they were over run with random emergency call outs & not enough vets as a few were off sick/broken, so I am still none the wiser..rather fuming cross though but they have promised me a half call out fee to make up for keeping me standing round like a lemming...that said if it was me having the emergencies I would be only too grateful, so have to wait even longer - apparently they will try & get to me before their first pre booked call out in the morning..;-/ lets hope. I did wonder about the electrics but our field fencing to the arena fields is battery run, the mains electric fence & all elecs to do with the house are the fields in a totally different direction and the track through to the field we were on initially when it happened is rubber track (like grass matts but more solid..) so kind of ruled that one out...also he didn't do it all in just one place -on the bank by the arena was the second tantrum and that was all fully excavated & built up when we had the school put in...so 100%certain it does not have any cabling etc or any live wires...soooo...just because i'm me I guess I'll be wracking my brains for a glimmer of explanation till he's had tests & results...from all your experiences its looking like cushings is way more common than I first thought, so I'll not be letting them brush that aside simply because he's not got the typical coat..teeth were done about a month ago and obviously checked for any obvious signs of minute injury or stings/cuts else where...my mare once was stung by a bee mid xc...that was the most unforgettable ride ever ;-(...my only thoughts on stings were with my gelding, he had the second tantrum shortly after but not so soon that it might have been a 2nd sting (?) normally when it comes to pain or being a patient he's a very co-operative chap and relishes the attention & tlc..having watched him that bit more closely over the weekend than usual, he has generally been his chilled out self, but had the episodes of head shaking and a few slightly neurotic calling moments where he's quite frenzied but then remembers his hay & calms down again if spoken to & reassured.. the one thing I can't get out of my head is his body language & expressions while he was having his outburst...anyway...thats all I can update for now and thank you to all those of you who have asked....and sorry to those of you who are tutting & doing lots of eye rolling;-)xxx
 
Fingers crossed for you. Sometimes gut instinct tells you when something is wrong.
If we all waited until we had a text book set of symptoms, a lot of horses would be dead. I'd always call the vet out if something bothered me. They get paid for attending, so its no loss to them to come out and if it turns out to be nothing, I'm happy.
Good on you.
 
Will think of you tomorrow I hope the vet can throw light on it. I am still no further forward with mine he bucked me off and meant it it was off you come job, now he was a very bad boy when he was younger but has been a good boy for years and my guts tell it's more than ' well he was always like that'
No sore back or anything obvious vet and physio have been,no change of diet or anything like that but my push button little friend has became a little monster took him back to hounds on Saturday only did not buck me off again because I was on his case sorry to hijack your post but just needed to dump that feel better now
 
Goldenstar said:
Will think of you tomorrow I hope the vet can throw light on it. I am still no further forward with mine he bucked me off and meant it it was off you come job, now he was a very bad boy when he was younger but has been a good boy for years and my guts tell it's more than ' well he was always like that'
No sore back or anything obvious vet and physio have been,no change of diet or anything like that but my push button little friend has became a little monster took him back to hounds on Saturday only did not buck me off again because I was on his case sorry to hijack your post but just needed to dump that feel better now
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not at all! Its good to vent...I feel useful now..my boy helped someone!;-) its strange but some horses simply do NOT have a buck or a rear in them when ridden...so when it suddenly appears its a real wake up call...I'm probably going to come under fire for that..but as I've mentioned in my earlier posts...theres a very marked difference between feeling well & feeling vitriolic..I guess some will say I'm being stupid..but I see it that they have no voice as such and sometimes just need to air their problems any way they can...not as calculated as that I'm sure, but its a way of saying i'm hurting or somethings not great..there was a lady that posted earlier that rightly said that there would be alot of dead horses if we were to believe all cases had to be text book...some are so subtle...others so obvious and they are all individuals..I hope you get him sorted too & that all is well and perhaps just a trapped nerve or a sting causing his random blip...I'm all for a simple solution without anything sinnister if at all avoidable!keep me posted tho& I'll keep fingers crossed for him too...x
 
Not one of my posts was rude, name calling or arrogant, i simply gave my opinion from my experience and knowledge and i know that my knowledge was more accurate than the posters who said i was an "idiot" (in fact i want professional proof from them to confirm this!!) whilst my "2 carers" have told me to ignore those ignorant posters and not reply i feel compelled to defend myself; put it this way because i saw the situation in a different light and didnt come on here saying "oh you poor thing, you are so lucky you didnt get injured, oh yes there must be something wrong with your horse" the rest of you felt you had the right to slat me.

Well i have forgotten what you are still learning and at least i have an education as well as 2 carers and knowledge about horses "especially my own" that i do not need to come on here "crying for help" everytime my horse "farts". Not only can you learn some good things from this forum - you can also have a good naming calling game without someone slapping you in the face which they would do if you were standing in front of them from some of the posts i have read on here.

My beautiful cob was fresh today when i rode him do you think he has a problem or is he just feeling well!!!!
 
beeswax said:
Not one of my posts was rude, name calling or arrogant,perhaps your definition of those words are different to ours i simply gave my opinion from my experience and knowledge and i know that my knowledge was more accurate than the posters who said i was an "idiot" (in fact i want professional proof from them to confirm this!!) whilst my "2 carers" have told me to ignore those ignorant posters and not reply i feel compelled to defend myself; put it this way because i saw the situation in a different light and didnt come on here saying "oh you poor thing, you are so lucky you didnt get injured, oh yes there must be something wrong with your horse" the rest of you felt you had the right to slat me.

Well i have forgotten what you are still learningNot arrogant?? and at least i have an education as well as 2 carers and knowledge about horses "especially my own" that i do not need to come on here "crying for help" everytime my horse "farts". Not only can you learn some good things from this forum - you can also have a good naming calling game without someone slapping you in the face which they would do if you were standing in front of them from some of the posts i have read on here.

My beautiful cob was fresh today when i rode him do you think he has a problem or is he just feeling well!!!!
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your whole tone is arrogant!! :rolleyes: yes it might only have been high spirits but there are much less condescending ways of saying so.
And years of experience don't mean anything really, i know someone who is in his 70's and has 50 years of experience but i wouldn't let him near one of mine as he still thinks tying a pony up for 3 days with no food will 'teach the little sod not to kick':mad:
 
Don't panic, mine used to be fine when I bought him 4 years ago but after having time off in the field recovering from a tendon injury he now charges people in the field. We run but if you stand your ground he comes right up to you but doesn't actually hit you. Dunno if yours would do this, I have no idea how it started but he just does it now.
 
beeswax said:
Not one of my posts was rude, !
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Really? Your first started with, "for goodness sake..." and finished with "...i dont think he has an ass-tumor when he farted though". Pretty damn rude and extrememly arrogant if you ask me. Your posts deteriorated from then on. I personally felt you were bullying the OP.

I'm not going to say anything else, I don't think you're receptive to advice. However, if you were I'd suggest you take a good hard look at how you express yourself and your manner, and you might then understand why people were upset with you.
 
Caledonia said:
Agree. And, as ever, if you need to find an answer on a forum, perhaps the level of experience is questionable?
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Caledonia - this is not true. Nobody will ever know everything, regardless of experience.

My mare injured herself at a rare point of a tendon, and most vets had no clue what to do. On a forum, someone from across the pond in the U.S. knew a horse with a similar injury.

Same thing goes for riding lessons. One is NEVER too experienced to stop taking them...

A forum is very good, because you get the experience of people all around the globe, instead of relying on your own quite limited experience (no matter how "experienced" you think you may be).
 
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