Myler bits vs ns bits

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Hmm, I'm having a bit of an internal debate at the moment. Ben clearly isn't as happy with his bit choice as I would like him to be. I had his teeth rasped a couple of weeks ago and it's made no change, he chomps down on the metal from the start, throws his head about intermittently and snatches forward and down. I suspect that there is just too much movement for his liking, he is currently in a loose ring double jointed with a lozenge (its a ns)

I wanted another ns, ideally a straight bar, they don't do these either in an egbutt, loose ring or hanging cheek... Grr :(. They have suggested going for a single link with either an egbutt or hanging cheek, after some discussion we are veering towards the hanging cheek, this will minimise movement significantly from his current bit. They are also going to send one down to a local shop for me to trial first.

I have been looking at myler bits and I'm not really sure what to make of them, they do the straight bar with a slightly port mouth and a barrel, do they do them with out the barrel? If Ben doesn't settle in the ns we are trialling they will probably be my next choice but I have absolutely no experience of them, I look at the barrel and worry it could pinch? Would it/could it? Who on here can give me some feedback about them? It would be much appreciated.
 
I've use both NS and Myler bits, and prefer the mylers, although if myler made their bits in NS Salox metal then all would be wonderful! The design of the myler barrel is to eliminate pinching that can occur with any other type of bit. My lad was better in the myler as it was a more rigid/fixed mouth piece. However, I've now changed my philosophy on bitting and I know have everything in a simple straightbar - so the horse can come onto a correct contact without the bit collapsing on them and obviously there's no pinching.

I've tried endless amounts of bits for my horse, as he always used to shake his head and generally play around with his head. But since having him in the simplest straightbar snaffle he's a changed horse. But if I was to have to choose between the myler and the NS I'd go myler now!

Hope my rambling is of some use!! (:
 
Best to trial them both really. I bought a couple of mylers, horses didn't like them and I wasn't keen either for that matter. Managed to sell them and bought NS which went down much better, but the Mylers were a bit of a pricey mistake and I wished I had hired first.
 
Fantastic guys than you :) quibou that's exactly the problem with Ben, he just can't seem to settle in his current bit.

Capriole... Good idea, I will trial both :)

Bryndu - the link doesn't work... It says 'can't find what your looking for' or something along those lines but thank you anyway :)
 
I can open the link from the other thread it was posted on, will try to paste here
http://cvm.msu.edu/research/researc...publications-1/usdf-connection/USDF_Dec05.pdf

if that doesn't work, it's also here
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/foru...s-the-same&p=11959769&viewfull=1#post11959769

Interesting set of x rays, haven't looked closely enough to really examine the article yet, just skimmed through.

I have used Mylers in the past though (dressage legal ones only) and had good results for the most part. I'm thinking of trying one for my mare next as she's a bit fussy in her KK, finds the NS ones I've tried a bit sharp for some reason and is happy but 'blunt' in a nathe.
For mine, I think the myler might give the stability she likes from the nathe as the joints can't collapse but give me a bit more adjustability than I get from the straightbar.
 
It's really down to each horse I have horses who are in NS and two who go really well in the simple myler loose ring .
Horses change as well so it's good to try a range of thing on a fairly regular basis .
 
I can open the link from the other thread it was posted on, will try to paste here
http://cvm.msu.edu/research/researc...publications-1/usdf-connection/USDF_Dec05.pdf

if that doesn't work, it's also here
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/foru...s-the-same&p=11959769&viewfull=1#post11959769

Interesting set of x rays, haven't looked closely enough to really examine the article yet, just skimmed through.

I have used Mylers in the past though (dressage legal ones only) and had good results for the most part. I'm thinking of trying one for my mare next as she's a bit fussy in her KK, finds the NS ones I've tried a bit sharp for some reason and is happy but 'blunt' in a nathe.
For mine, I think the myler might give the stability she likes from the nathe as the joints can't collapse but give me a bit more adjustability than I get from the straightbar.

How odd, yep that link works for me thank you :) I will have a read of it now.

It's really down to each horse I have horses who are in NS and two who go really well in the simple myler loose ring .
Horses change as well so it's good to try a range of thing on a fairly regular basis .

I know, ebony went so well in it, and actually I mouthed him in it and he was fine but I'm just getting this gut feeling, I know he's not happy with it now. I'm not going to rush, I think as you say I'm going to try a range and see which works best for us. :D

Also consider a micklem bridle, it's brought peace and harmony to us and I wish I'd bought one years ago.

My yo has just bought one, there is a local stockist and she managed to get it for £25 less than online, so I will be really interested to hear what she says about it once she has ridden in it a few times... Certainly not something I'm discounting
 
I use a myler snaffle with a small port (MB04??) with a Micklem bridle and my horse loves the combination together. Sh is a headshaker and it has all but stopped that, she is also a lot steadier in her mouth.
 
Hi dotty thank you for that, I actually think that may be similar to the one that I want to try although I am going go for the hanging cheek version as he really seemed to get on well with the poll pressure from his show pelham and although it only exerts minimal poll pressure, I think the HC would suit him. Im going to hire it for a month for a good old trial, and then make a decision as to whether to trial the NS or whether to get that. Heres what Im liking:

http://www.thehorsebitshop.co.uk/product.php?xProd=124
 
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