I use a Myler comfort snaffle on a TB who used to try to stick his head in the air to avoid the bit. He seems to like it and is now quiet in his mouth.
Worked well on my thick necked occasionally strong in a cob way welshie. Particularly low ported comfort snaffle as lots of flexibility. One without a port not so good as becomes same as a mullen mouth quite easily if he pulled too much.
Great bits.
Sorted our problems out. I had Star in a forward ported snaffle and was able to hack out in a snaffle for the first time, because she would pull, snatch, jog and grab at the bit in anything else - snaffle or pelham. she even relaxed on the way home instead of being rude.
They are very good for communicating with, but you do need the right one for your horse. The comfort snaffle was the devils own work as far as she was concerned.
Myler is just a brand name, like Kleenex. They have a "system" of bitting, depending on what the horse needs and what you're trying to accomplish so, as above, like with any other kind of bit it's important to get the correct one for your situation. There are literally dozens of combinations of mouthpieces, cheek pieces, "hooks", even ones with nose pressure and curb attachments. Anyone who talks about a Myler bit like it's one kind of bit doesn't understand the product.
You can just read some of their literature and try to find the right one, but better is to use either their service or another bit bank that understands the system. I know a few people who have been recommended models they would never have picked otherwise that absolutely did the trick.
TarrStepps, ive also posted on here tonight about any clinics or if there is anyone who can come out to me and recommend and fit a bit, but ive not had many replies. I really need some help in this area.
You can just read some of their literature and try to find the right one, but better is to use either their service or another bit bank that understands the system. I know a few people who have been recommended models they would never have picked otherwise that absolutely did the trick.
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Agree entirely. If you don't know much about them or all the various types/combinations, talk to a bit bank.
The lady I put in reply to your other post is a Myler specialist but also does her own range. I'm pretty sure she does go out to yards to trial bits.
Mylers are funny things. Some Horse go brilliantly in them, some there's no difference and some absolutely hate them. They have independent side movement which some Horses don't like. They are also pretty narrow, which suits Horses without much room in the mouth.
What issues are you having??
I have a 14.3 that is head throwing, then puts his head down and snatches the reins out of your hands and then stops. Now, he only does it in walk, and only does it with a rider on his back. He does'nt do it when you ll him with a pessoa on or a pessoa off. He has a very soft mouth and was always ridden on the buckle end until i bought him. I ride him with a very light contact, but i don't ride him on the buckle end. I did think it was a behaviour problem , he's 5. But im also thinking hes trying to tell me he isnt happy with something. Teeth, back, saddle all been done twice.
What kind of bit are you using at the moment? What sort of mouth conformation does he have? Also, is it the same person that has double checked your saddle fit?
It does sound a bit severe for a bit evasion but of course you never know!! Has this only started in the Summer? Reason I ask as it might be headshaking???? Mind you, you say he doesn't do it in the pessoa.
Any chance you could get a clip? Or post a bigger ridden picture?
My thoughts are though your best bet would be to find a good instructor and see what they think. It sounds like it could just be he has never learned to be ridden in a contact and is evading this, not the bit itself.
He currently has been ridden in a centre revolver full cheek happy mouth. I don't think hes a head shaker co's he shows no other signs, i thinks its a ridden issue. Ive spoken to someone from a bit bank and they think its a bitting issue rather than behavioural, but im not sure. Hes a native type so thickish tongue. But hes not over happy when i try to feel his palate to what room is in there.
Have you tried him in a metal bit? Some Horses I've come across detest these plastic type bits. Maybe try a simple french link and see how you get on. They take up less room than a lozenge as they lie flat on the tongue. You could also try a mullen bit (ie curned without a joint) as some Horses dislike jointed bits. See what you can borrow from friends to try as it saves you spending lots of money.
I still think that a good instructor or trainer would be your best bet. It's very hard to get a full picture on the phone or online.
Both ours go in Myler 04 comfort snaffle but for different reasons.
Tom goes in it as he is very unsettled in his mouth generally, and he seems best in this of everything we've tried.
Ron goes in it as he has a fat tongue and a low palate and this seems to give him the room under the bit for his tongue to be comfortable. This lets him relax his jaw and come round into the bridle. In the french link I use for dressage I have to work him in walk for ages to get the same effect as he sets himself against the bit.
I really recommend trying them, but appreciate that they aren't for every horse/rider.
I used the Myler comfort snaffle MB02( but with hooks) for my cob with a small mouth, big tongue! he went brilliantly in it. Stopped his head tossing.
However tried it on my Welsh x arab who has a small mouth, small tongue and he hated it; Trial and error and a few weeks later, he is going very nicely in a Jefferies revolver gag bit, but only ridden on the snaffle ring. I think it's definately the loose ring that he likes not fixed rings.