Naming and shaming

[daisycrazy]

I'm fairly certain that hitting your horse after it's finished SJ and then going back in the SJ warm up = elimination. But since there is almost never a proper steward at the SJ warm up at events, this wouldn't often be picked up on.

Henryhorn, the horse OT made that comment about used to be mine, and she is very good at looking absolutely knackered as soon as she's a little bit tired. I saw her afterwards and she was absolutely fine and looked very happy. Whilst I'm not convinced she was a "better horse" for it, she very definitely wasn't any worse. And if you'd watched her, you'd have seen she was jumping very well right to the finish.

 

[Law]

q/r
I was watching en event on the other horsey channel on sky the other night and was really shocked by one the riders whacking her horse after fences and on long gallops... i paid attention to her name ... she's on that list and i'm not surprised at all. Belting her horse like that, before, over, after and between fences like that was horrible to watch

 

[jumptoit]

I can't say that some of those names surprised me!

 

[FestiveSpirit]

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I can't say that some of those names surprised me!

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Although I didnt recognise all of those names, those ones I did recognise didnt surprise me at all

Especially the pony rider, since I saw her riding last season when I was fence judging

 

[kateD]

wats the difference between 'dangerous riding' and ' dangerous rider'

?!! Also not impressed with the pony rider being on there that dosent bode well for the future!

 

[MandyMoo]

i was quite shocked to see so many 'big' names on that list :/

and i think that anyone with 'abuse of horse' should be shot... xx

 

[henryhorn]

Sorry if that opinion offended Daisycrazy but surely the horse can't have finished ok or they wouldn't have issued the warning?
If she is good at looking absolutely knackered then surely she needed to be sufficiently fit not to get like that at all?
I would tend to go on whether a horse looked tired by weaving a bit when cantering and blowing profusely when it finished, sadly I can't remember anything else about the incident, but I'm not an Ollie hater, I actually think he's incredibly talented and focussed, he's like many male riders, they just need to keep in mind their horses aren't machines sometimes.
I think as he gets a bit older he will actually be a gentler rider re pushing an apparently tired horse, if only because of the bad publicity it brings to his door.

 

[glamourpuss]

What worries me about that list is the people who are on there for abuse of the horse. If how they behave IN PUBLIC is enough to warrant a complaint I dread to think what happens in private

 

[daisycrazy]

Not offended! But the warning wasn't issued in relation to the horse about which he made the comment you referred to. The horse he made the comment about did look tired, but continued to cover the ground and jump well, and I know her extremely well and was entirely happy that she had not been over-exerted. And I don't think for a moment that she wasn't fully fit and prepared for the event.

 

[teddybrowne]

"i am probably more aware than you of the procedure teddy" - really?

Anything more than a verbal, and witness statements are collected, and an appeals system exists.

Actually most 'tired' horses will be noted before they reach the finish by jump judges. At a CCI this will then be confirmed by the vet team by monitoring recovery rates. Other than that, I agree with HH, pushing on regardless during a competition should not be a method for fittening.

As for BE's record keeping, I think the 'Event Incident Log' should be published in the mag.

"There is one rider on that list who got done for something most riders would have considered reasonable behaviour on an unruly horse (tactful description ) who got away with another potentially much more serious because the 'proceedure' was not followed as it perhaps should have been," - I'm sorry Lucretia, but all of your inuendo and mystery, wink wink, nudge nudge, does nothing for me. How do you know what 'most riders' find reasonable? . I have worked with and for a great deal of international riders, over a range of disciplines, and it's safe to day that not all my experiences have been ethical. Just because some riders find their actions 'reasonable', it doesn't make it so, and I'm glad the FEI have the nuts to say it where BE fail.