Napping? Separation anxiety? Something else?

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I think I’ve posted about this before, but after another hysterical episode today I feel we really need to try and solve it. This might be long so bear with…

Went XC schooling with some friends today, he’s happily tied to my lorry. Their horses are tied to their lorry next to mine, he knows and likes one of these horses, one he doesn’t know. Previous group finish their session and 3 ponies appear from behind a hedge at the top of the hill and walk back towards the car park where we are. Pepsi loses his mind the moment he sees them appear. Even though he’s still standing with other horses.

Its not just a bit of calling/tension, it’s full on head in the air, spinning round the car park, shaking like a leaf and dripping in sweat sort of hysterics. One pony comes into the car park and ties up to a trailer further down, the other two disappear off somewhere else. Pepsi continues to lose his mind, manage to get him tacked up and get on but takes him a good 20mins to get anywhere near settled, and tbh he’s a bit nappy and unsettled all session (this isn’t necessarily abnormal, he can be like that in a group sometimes)

He is a horse that can sometimes be nappy, but this is another level of stress entirely. The only thing I know that consistently sets him off like that was when he was tied up in a previous yard and another horse walked past and behind the stables where he saw them then they’d disappear. He gets a little stressed if you leave him in at home and turn all the others out, but nothing like this. This is pure panic.

He can go to a show with horses coming and going everywhere, he doesn’t care. He can work in an arena with a horse and then they can leave. He can pass other horses out hacking. We see Dartmoor ponies a lot out and about and he basically ignores them. He is “aware” of horses passing along the road you can see from our arena but it’s a momentary distraction then back to working as normal.

We go to lessons every other week where it tends to work that we arrive, one horse is just getting ready to leave, they leave and he’s by himself, then another horse will finish and “appear” through the trees back at the car park. Again, no reaction to anything, happy munching a haynet. He’s been xc schooling/to arena hire before and seen horses arrive/leave whilst getting ready, and only once or twice has he had a reaction like this.

He also had one competition about 3mo ago where he was like it, again, no obvious reason. Venue he’s been to multiple times, same parking situation but that time he just lost his mind. We’ve been back since and he was completely chilled.

I think the biggest frustration is that I can’t work out WHY certain things set him off at certain times. Also because he can’t learn in the panic state but he goes from completely relaxed to complete meltdown in <30secs. Any ideas?!
 

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Ah i feel your pain. Taking Millie to a busy fun ride involves her spinning, screaming and being completely hysterical when she sees other horses coming, going, riding past… one year at the chester zoo ride we were parked by the lane that the ride came back up and every horse that went past caused a meltdown. It was embarrassing because she was screaming, squealing and spinning and it was difficult to manage on my own when trying to tack her up. To he honest, I think some are just like this. Even if Millie is with a friend, she has a meltdown about other horses. I just do my best to ignore her and not make an issue of it.
It usually involves lots of swearing under my breath!
Even at the end of the ride, she still does it. Fun rides with Millie are fun, but not remotely relaxing!
 

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Ah i feel your pain. Taking Millie to a busy fun ride involves her spinning, screaming and being completely hysterical when she sees other horses coming, going, riding past… one year at the chester zoo ride we were parked by the lane that the ride came back up and every horse that went past caused a meltdown. It was embarrassing because she was screaming, squealing and spinning and it was difficult to manage on my own when trying to tack her up. To he honest, I think some are just like this. Even if Millie is with a friend, she has a meltdown about other horses. I just do my best to ignore her and not make an issue of it.
It usually involves lots of swearing under my breath!
Even at the end of the ride, she still does it. Fun rides with Millie are fun, but not remotely relaxing!
I’m glad it’s not just me 😅 once I’m on all he does is sweat up and jog rather than walk. Its the part where I have to try and tack up and get on a spinning sweaty mess that’s less fun…

We did a fun ride last year and he was fine for the first half, then something set him off (can’t remember what, think it was some people galloping past) and cue full on hysterics about every horse he saw or heard. Yet take him to an event with absolute carnage going on, loose horses, people lunging in the lorry park, horses kicking and screaming inside lorries and he doesn’t bat an eyelid.

If it’s just him, I can cope, as I say he’s not too bad once you’re on board. I’ll just have to stick a big sign round his neck that says “I promise he’s not normally like this!” 😂 (and tbh I can mostly avoid situations that are likely to cause drama, it’s just random things like today where I don’t expect it)
 

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I feel for you and sympathize as mine is similar in that fun rides are exhilarating. He stresses in the lorry, launches himself out, already tacked up. I leap on and we’re off. When we get back we have to load and drive away immediately as he will wind himself up again. On the actual ride he’s happy and well behaved.
 

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At the last chester zoo ride, they had the parking in the same field as the last section of the ride with jumps. So horses were cantering up the side or the field. Millie’s brain fell out. I was amazed how every other horse was standing happily tied to or in their box, and mine was like a whirling dervish. Even after the ride she was the same. I really hope they don’t do that setup this year. I couldn’t even drink my post-ride coffee she was that demented!
 

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Gosh, I have to say I’m not sure I have any tips for you, especially when it’s not totally clear what situation will set it off. But i do sympathise, one of mine can be nappy and anxious around others in a group situation. He can get clingy in a heartbeat and would get anxious if a group horse loaded up and left. I try to find ways to minimise it eg always make sure he’s loaded up quickly, but that’s when it’s easier to identify what the situation and then try to mitigate things.

The one thing I do with both of mine is to tack up on the lorry and shorten the time between unloading and getting off. Is that possible/might that help?
 

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are the horses that set him off a particular color?
Several of my horses have shown preferences for horses of a certain color, it seemed to be the same color as their dam or other horses they were raised with and liked.
 
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