Nasty dog at Gatcombe

Bosworth

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Took flodden and Poppy to Gatcombe yesterday, a really lovely day. Flodden caused a bit of a stir with people coming up searching for the little bedlington pup. he was a total star, had a lovely walk and was carried a fair way, one person asked if he was real, well he was fast asleep in my friends arms. Met loads of lovely people with some gorgeous dogs, but did anyone else come across the nastiest Jack Russel ever. The owners had it on a lose lead and it was snarling and attacking anything that it came across. Went for my two and a friends border, then turned and attacked 2 labs and the proceeded to charge at any other dog in the vicinity snarling and barking agressively, it really meant business. The owner appeared completely unconcerned. We told her to get it muzzled, and why on earth take it to gatcombe, others were saying the same, and they just carried on regardless ignoring everyone. We saw them wandering through the trade stands, dog still on a loose lead and still trying to attack anything nearby.

How can people be so stupid. That dog should never have been out in a crowd. after the first dog it attacked it should have been taken out on to the cross country course, away from any other dog. If they insist on taking it out then it should have been muzzled. Gatcombe is a lovely event to go to, great viewing, and far far less people than Badminton. But there are obviously going to be other dogs - some people really should be put to sleep to spare the world from their stupidity. Poor dog.
 
It is my opinion that it is a Horse Trials, dogs at these events are a blooming nuisance.Leave them at home..or perhaps charge a tenner for the stubborn ones ,that might keep them away.
 
there was a scrappy little terrier thing at the last p2p we went to,not only was it going for other dogs, but horses and ankles too.

The owner didnt really care, she looked like she had fallen out of a le chameau catalogue with one of those daft furry hats and had her nose far to high in the air to notice her nasty little rat.
 
Gap in the market maybe for dog pens at these events...put an end (hopefully) to stupid people leaving their dogs to bake in cars..those taking dogs around trade villages and letting them cock a leg on the goods or those that seem to think it is ok to let their dogs cause a nuisance to horse, people and anything else it walks past...I am very much a dog lover but these are equestrian events where people pay good money to get in and watch an equestrian event..if you have to take your dog along..and many people do..pay to leave it on the gate at a dog minding service may be the solution!..Yes I do also realise it is a small minority ruining it for the many decent dog owners, but after all it does only take one to ruin it for many, many others or cause danger to the riders
 
I have to say I agree - the first time one of my dogs snapped at another dog it would taken out of the way of other dogs for its own sake as well as others and it would never be taken to somewhere like that again :(

Dogs at events is always going to be a contentious point because although most dogs and owner behave responsibly there will always be those that don't and spoil it for everyone else:rolleyes: in those cases both owners and dogs should be PTS;):D:D:D
 
My pet hate is dogs at boot fairs....why do people drag a dog around a boot fair? It can't poop and pee freely after all although I have seen people let their dogs pee on sellers stuff ugh and it's hardly an exciting outing for a dog imo. Lazy owners methinks getting their enjoyment as well as a dog walk in one hit!
 
i personally have no problem whatsoever with taking dogs to events. Mine enjoy it, they love meeting people and other doge, they enjoy the walk, they will happily lie down and snooze while we sit and watch the horses. But ours are both relaxed and happy to be there. mine have never snapped or shown agression and should that happen ever than I would walk away and take my dog home, or at least out of contact with anyone or another dog. Dogs should be able to walk around a place like Gatcombe happily, there were not loads of people there, it is a dog show as well as a horse show, thats why they have dog trade stands, and dog agility etc. People saying dogs should not be there is like saying babies should not be there and both would be wrong. Babies with responsible parents should enjoy it, they should be looked after in an appropriate manner, they take part in the family day out and should not be stressed by the event. Babies need to go out in those situations to learn and understand. Exactly the same with dogs. I don;t want to leave mine at home, a trip to Gatcombe or any horse trials is a trip out for me and my family which includes my dogs. But They behave in an appropriate manner, and I ensure they are well cared for. It is down to the owners/parents to ensure they behave correctly. if they cannot do that then in my opinion then neither their babies nor their dogs are suitable to be taken to that event.
 
Bosworth said:
i personally have no problem whatsoever with taking dogs to events. Mine enjoy it, they love meeting people and other doge, they enjoy the walk, they will happily lie down and snooze while we sit and watch the horses. But ours are both relaxed and happy to be there. mine have never snapped or shown agression and should that happen ever than I would walk away and take my dog home, or at least out of contact with anyone or another dog. Dogs should be able to walk around a place like Gatcombe happily, there were not loads of people there, it is a dog show as well as a horse show, thats why they have dog trade stands, and dog agility etc. People saying dogs should not be there is like saying babies should not be there and both would be wrong. Babies with responsible parents should enjoy it, they should be looked after in an appropriate manner, they take part in the family day out and should not be stressed by the event. Babies need to go out in those situations to learn and understand. Exactly the same with dogs. I don;t want to leave mine at home, a trip to Gatcombe or any horse trials is a trip out for me and my family which includes my dogs. But They behave in an appropriate manner, and I ensure they are well cared for. It is down to the owners/parents to ensure they behave correctly. if they cannot do that then in my opinion then neither their babies nor their dogs are suitable to be taken to that event.
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Hear hear.
 
YasandCrystal said:
My pet hate is dogs at boot fairs....why do people drag a dog around a boot fair? It can't poop and pee freely after all although I have seen people let their dogs pee on sellers stuff ugh and it's hardly an exciting outing for a dog imo. Lazy owners methinks getting their enjoyment as well as a dog walk in one hit!
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I took mine to socialise them and get them used to the crowds/noise. Why not leave kids at home, some frankly are worse behaved than my dogs! I had a lovely time talking to other dog owners and exchanged some interesting info with another spaniel owner about the various cruciate ops available.

I echo what Bosworth says: mine ARE my children, I didn't get them to stay at home because I want to go out. If they're allowed out, they come with me, but I won't take them somewhere awkward/inconvenient and I most certainly wouldn't let them annoy other dogs/people.
 
What an inconsiderate woman, I would not take my dogs anywhere they were liable to be a nuisance.

Perhaps this should be posted in NL and maybe just maybe she might see it and take heed.
 
OH's Jack Russell (she's always his when she's bad!) is exactly like this and we no longer take her to events / shows etc for this reason. Quite frankly, apart from the annoyance and risk to other people and dogs, it stresses her out beyond belief because she likes to be able to get away from a situation she finds intimidating (and at 10 inches high a crowd of people is b***** intimidating) and when she can't she growls and snaps to create a bit of space around her. Logical from her point of view and very effective :eek: but not exactly acceptable and sadly she missed out on proper socialisation as a puppy so it is something we can only partially train her out of :( Even so I would NEVER expect people to have to put up with her behaviour.

I can't abide people not controlling their dogs at events - especially the yapping at horses or God forbid chasing them :mad:

Just to add our other two dogs are very well behaved and happy to come with us and love their days out which I'm sure they believe are purely for their benefit :rolleyes:
 
It really annoys me when people let little dogs behave like this, and quite often find it funny. We've been at a local village show/pet dog show today, there were several smaller dogs yapping and having a go at others, including my GSD and there were the usual comments from stupid owners "Ooh that one will swallow you" etc and Evie ignored them all. Yet towards the end of the afternoon when one on a flexi lead was right in her face, and she had a woof at it, everyone glared at me, and one woman even pulled her children away.:mad:
 
i have a GSD x and it really irritates me how people with small dogs get away with this kind of behaviour. My dog is well trained and well behaved yet if she was to act like this there would be uproar. My dog has been set upon a few times by a smaller do and if she reacts in self defence it is seen that she it the evil one. Also when on walks i ALWAYS put my dog on a lead when approaching anyone. I am not to know if they are scared of dogs, or if they have a dog if it aggresive or not. Then they allow their dog to come bowling over to mine barking and growling then shout, 'don't worry its friendly'
 
About three small dogs had a go at mine yesterday....barking, snarling, lunging...can you imagine if it was the other way around? Oh and the woman at the beach who was *letting* her spangle chase the ducks and geese....yeah, if I did that, the police would be called.

In fairness to the dog it was probably stressed out and very unhappy, wish people would read their dogs and realise that they don't ALL want to come everywhere with us...
 
I always think when I see these people dragging their dogs around wouldnt their dog prefer to be at home and whats the worse that would happen at home. I would much prefer to come home and find my dog had peed on the floor than have them out having a miserable time.
 
It does depend on the dog I think - some of ours were not phased by large crowds at all, some could take it up to a point, some (well, one or two :p) it would have blown their brains - had the pup at an open day yesterday and he got on great, crowds, food smells, cuddles! But then the fire brigade let off a siren, he was fine but I felt awful, when you've got hearing that sensitive it must be horrible! I know he's a rufty tufty sort and I shouldn't fuss but I think people forget that they're animals and much more sensitive than we are.
 
Totally agree - my big lurcher loves his days out, his tail never stops wagging all day and nothing phases him. My whippet is a bit less forward but still loves all the attention (as the smaller, prettier one he gets loads!) and food to hoover up from the floor :rolleyes:

I guess my worst moment was when big lad slipped his collar in the food hall at Chatsworth country fair :eek: :o :o I rugby tackled him to the ground and went straight to first stand I saw that sold martingale collars :o:o
 
Like the OP i took my pup to Bramham this year (carried him on 95% of the course walk and when really busy) but he loved it, all the attention all the grass to sniff etc. On a short lead when on the ground not one of those extendables but I was amazed at how many dogs got under peoples feet and how many appeared from what seemed like nowhere to say hello to Henry. He was also barked at and lunged at a number of dogs, mostly small to which he, bless him, just ignored, the owners of which dogs didnt look like they were having much of a good time beign dragged about by thier dogs. Only take them if both they and you can have an enjoyable day.
 
Brownmare said:
I guess my worst moment was when big lad slipped his collar in the food hall at Chatsworth country fair :eek: :o :o I rugby tackled him to the ground and went straight to first stand I saw that sold martingale collars :o:o
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I'm sorry that did make LOL! I've a vision of you leaping on your dog a la Sandra Bullock when she leaps off the stage in Miss Congeniality :o
 
YasandCrystal said:
My pet hate is dogs at boot fairs....why do people drag a dog around a boot fair? It can't poop and pee freely after all although I have seen people let their dogs pee on sellers stuff ugh and it's hardly an exciting outing for a dog imo. Lazy owners methinks getting their enjoyment as well as a dog walk in one hit!
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Not sure I agree on that to be honest. Our Setter needed quite a bit of socialising to get him out of the 'oh my gosh, oh my gosh, people! Hugs! Fuss! Yay!' attitude. He was not allowed to make a nuisance of himself by going up to people and slobbering all over them, he was made to sit when told (having already learned this at home), he was certainly not allowed to cock his leg over sellers items! :eek:.

When he got over-excited we took him out of the situation and away from the crowds. When he'd calmed down we went back and walked around. He was not allowed to snap (never has snapped. I don't think he knows how to :D) or get over-excited with other dogs but he was allowed to say hello calmly and nicely.

We had one mum come up to us with her toddler asking if her little girl could stroke Harley as her little girl loved dogs but didn't often get the chance to stroke them. Harley sat and allowed this little girl to coo over him to the point where he had his head pressed against her chest with the look of love on his face :D.

I found it was a great way to socialise Harley without an overload of people and animals. I got stopped by a few fans of the Setter breed and had some lovely conversations with them. We've done the same with our Spaniel and have had nothing but praise from the people who have met them because they have been so well behaved. If the owners behave responsibly and have the right idea then it isn't an issue.

Then again, my mum and dad had seven of us to raise and we were allowed to let off steam at home to an extent but we misbehaved in public at our peril :eek: ;) :D.

It stands to reason that the dogs are treated the same :p :D. Not all dog walkers are lazy so & so's either, I take Harley out every day for a good hour or two :D.
 
amymay said:
I agree. Keep them at home.
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Oh no.:eek: On behalf of those of us, who are considerate and pro-active dog owners, who have impeccably behaved dogs, I really hope they don't ban dogs!

TBH I wouldn't mind paying a tenner for a ticket for my dog. I also wouldn't mind if there were conditions attached to the dog ticket. For example, "if any mess is left or if any complaints are received owner and dog will be required to leave the site without refund"


We never take our dog into crowded areas like the trade stands. I usually go with friends and my OH, so it's always easy for him to look after the dog if I want a quick look round the stalls.

My girl is quite gorgeous (even if I do say so myself :p), and we usually attract swarms of people, who see her and come over to meet her, and take photos of her. She loves the fuss, and I think part of the attraction, is seeing lots of wonderful examples of different breeds of dogs, all shapes and sizes. I've met lots of fellow Pointer owners at places like Blenheim and Badminton. I think events like horse trials would actually be duller if people were not allowed to bring their well behaved dogs.
 
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