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Hello,
I'm starting to think about putting my mare on some sort of natural joint supplement, I've heard of feeding turmeric but that's about it! Does any one have any recommendations? ?
Currently on baileys number 4, chaff and I've got some linseed oil to try her on.
Thank you!
 
I use MSM daily and boswellia at need. And Micronised linseed as it happens - but the latter for coat health rather than specifically for joints.

Really its a question of how natural you think natural is. No joint supplement is truely artificial in that any of the main types of ingredients - MSM, Glucosamine etc have their roots in a natural rather than artifical product. But it is refined and made more bioavailable. For example MSM occurs naturally in tomatoes, corn, tea, coffee etc. But in small amounts. To get enough to be effective you would have to feed dangerous amounts - so it is artificially gathered and refined into something easier to use.

Turmeric has its adherants I know, but the scientific evdeince is mixed. On balance I chose to stick with what I knew was effective for my horses. But I'm sure there will be a tumeric lover along in a minute!
 
I give mine NAF 5star superflex senior. Vet said it was one of the better supplements so I keep up with feeding it. I can't feed turmeric as my horse also gets bute and you can't give bute and turmeric together.
 
boswellia is also processed in the liver so unless short term I don't feed bute at the same time.
The 27 yo had boswellia in his early 20s, he's now on bute so doesn't get the boswellia anymore.
 
ester said:
boswellia is also processed in the liver so unless short term I don't feed bute at the same time.
The 27 yo had boswellia in his early 20s, he's now on bute so doesn't get the boswellia anymore.
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Thank you ester. I wasn't aware boswelia was another that couldn't be fed with bute. There doesn't appear to be any boswelia in the Naf superflex senior. Is it ever known by another name?
 
It's frankincense :). But no it's not in the naf

I don't expect there is any data on it, but once on bute daily it seemed fairly redundant and seemed sensible not to use both. The not so oldie (21) still gets boswellia.
 
Shay said:
I use MSM daily and boswellia at need. And Micronised linseed as it happens - but the latter for coat health rather than specifically for joints.

Really its a question of how natural you think natural is. No joint supplement is truely artificial in that any of the main types of ingredients - MSM, Glucosamine etc have their roots in a natural rather than artifical product. But it is refined and made more bioavailable. For example MSM occurs naturally in tomatoes, corn, tea, coffee etc. But in small amounts. To get enough to be effective you would have to feed dangerous amounts - so it is artificially gathered and refined into something easier to use.

Turmeric has its adherants I know, but the scientific evdeince is mixed. On balance I chose to stick with what I knew was effective for my horses. But I'm sure there will be a tumeric lover along in a minute!
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Thanks! I've had a look and found a straight MSM powder, is that what you feed? I've heard it was effective but hadn't thought to look for it as a straight (who knows why) I'd just seen various supplements that contain it
 
Shay said:
Turmeric has its adherants I know, but the scientific evdeince is mixed. On balance I chose to stick with what I knew was effective for my horses. But I'm sure there will be a tumeric lover along in a minute!
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Haha - yes I know what you mean! I have to admit that I do give this to the horses and dogs, but I am certainly not one of those who swears by it. I mainly included it because when I discussed it with the vet we came to the conclusion that it couldn't do any harm! They also get Sizarol (basically glucosamine) and micronised linseed. Plus once a year they get an injection which is supposed to protect the cartilage. Oh and they wear magnetic stable boots at night. I have no idea what, if anything, actually makes a difference, but since their legs are fine I have not changed anything.

I also cannot bear seeing tumeric promoted as some sort of wondrous cure all. When I used to use Facebook I remember seeing a dog who belonged to an acquaintance photographed as 'before' and 'after' giving tumeric. I knew for a fact that the dog had in the meantime had a major surgery, and looked better because successful correction of the hip allowed it to exercise!
 
ramsaybailey said:
Thanks! I've had a look and found a straight MSM powder, is that what you feed? I've heard it was effective but hadn't thought to look for it as a straight (who knows why) I'd just seen various supplements that contain it
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I tried this with my mare & it made her extra sharp & reactive so I had to stop feeding it ?
 
I use a good bit of curragh Carron oil (which is just really linseed oil with added calcium) and my 29 year old is moving better than he has for years. You wouldn't know he was even in his twenties the way he's moving. The grey on his face gives it away though! I give him a (very scientific) good glug of it twice a day
 
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