navicular/tildren

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hiya!
My first time on a forum so please forgive me if I make any mistakes! Well here goes...my 17 yr old 3/4 thoroughbred 1/4 cleveland was diagnosed with navicular disease on thursday. I have had him since he was 4, and we have done reasonably well in unaffiliated dressage to elementary level, never out of the placings. He has been intermittently lame for 4 wks. Our vet seems to think that although the changes on x ray are significant, particularly on the near fore, that he should be ok to carry on with his flat work. so today he has had a dose of tildren and heart bar shoes and is already walking a lot better. He is to have 2 wks box rest. Would be grateful for anyones experience and /or advice.Don't think he would go barefoot as he has really sensitive feet.
 
I cant help you I afraid, but there are some on here whose horses have had this therapy.

I am considering it for my horse, he is lame and unridable with high, low ring bone, side bone, bone spavin, pedal osteitis and now the vet says navicular. He has been on danilon for 6 weeks or so and he is still uncomfortable.

I am so upset as I want him to be comfortable.

My vet suggested eggbar/heart bar shoes so maybe your horse would benefit from those too.

I know how you must be feeling.

x
 
Hi,

I,m sorry but I cant help either, but wondered if someone could explain to me what tildren is ?

It seems to be mentioned on here as a painkiller when nothing else helps -- which I may need if my boy doesnt come right after a years rest for tendon injury.

Would appreciate if anyone could explain (sorry dont mean to hi-jack your posting).
 
Hiya,
he has had heart bar shoes, and although what I can see looks like they have really pared his feet back he is walking nearly sound tonight. it is just making me wonder whether my farrier has been doing a good job,I know it isn't his fault but you know what i mean...
 
Tildren isnt a painkiller, it is a product that is administered intravenously to help prevent further bone activity in cases of arthritis.

Someone came up with a really good answer the other day, all about osteoblasts and osteoclasts..... try doing a search for that...

My horse has had two Tildren infusions now, a year apart... for his arthritic fetlock and spavins..... he is sound and in full work now...

http://www.georgevetgroup.co.uk/equine/TILDRENfactsheet.pdf

Edited to add the link to the factsheet
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My then 14yo gelding was diagnosed in May 2004 with bilateral navicular. He was treated for 3 months with Navilox, which had no effect, and was then given an intravenous dose of Tildren, then available only as a trial in the UK but quite highly regarded in France, where they claimed a 60% success rate. Sadly, we were one of the 40%. The vets didn’t recommend further Tildren as he had not responded at all to the first course and because there is a risk of colic. He was shod remedially and had a minimal daily dose of bute for nearly 4 years. I rode him very occasionally, only on soft ground.

A couple of months ago my farrier stopped the remedial shoes as he said the heels had risen and spread so ordinary shoes would be fine. I also stopped the bute to see what would happen. To cut a long story short, he is now grass sound – ie, I wouldn’t expect him to be happy on tarmac, but he’s sound enough to enjoy pleasure rides and pass the vet at the end.
 
my mare had tildren about 2 years ago, she had navicular in front then was kicked in the field which started off a bone spavin. the vet advised tildren as he thought it would help both conditions. i think it did help a bit but she also had remedial shoes in front which help a lot and a steroid injection into her hock. 2 years on she is sound for light work eg hacking and dressage or showing. i really don't know how much good the tildren did but it was about £400 and luckily my insurance paid it even though tildren wasn't licenced in the uk at that time and was imported.
 
my pony had tildrenn about 5 times
its amazing
it made it from crippeld to jumpin round big tracks again
fills in any cavitys
its a bone cancer treatment usually
its given intravenusly on a drip, and they need a colic injection too or they can colic.

if you want more info message me, i know lots about ti and have had great results.
 
thankyou! Jake has had 1 dose of tildren and radical remedial shoeing, but seems ok in walk, he is to have 2 weeks box rest,then can be ridden in walk and trot! Would be grateful for your experiences xxx
 
If your horse's feet are sensitive they probably will benefit from barefoot. I've been there and done that. Needs management of the whole horse though with attention paid to DEET - diet, exercise, environment and trim. Diet is mega important. Cut all molasses and sugar - really read the labels. This will help a lot - then get a decent trim - no sole trimming - let a proper sole callous grow. Your normal farrier will probably not much use for this because they don't seem to understand how to do this. Go to www.barefoothorses.co.uk and read the case studies - you may be inspired!
 
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