Nearly got booted off yard!

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

B&Q is a diy store, they don't sell you a tree to get your length of 2x4 from do they?

ROFPMSL


I agree with you, MV. Field maintenance enhances the value of the land. The YO is the person who benefits from that.

 

[Mithras]

I'm not keen on yards where you have to poo pick. My preference would be at a yard with enough acreage for turnout so that you can rotate and rest fields, and not do poo picking. But poo picking is normal in DIY yards, though not always in winter "sacrificial" grazing. Its very difficult to poo pick in mud.

There is a yard near me which offers full livery for £100 a week, but where you have to poo pick your turnout paddock yourself! Although apparantly you can pay another livery to do your poo picking for you. Seems a bit bizarre.

 

[The-mad-cat-lady]

I'm not keen on yards where you have to poo pick. My preference would be at a yard with enough acreage for turnout so that you can rotate and rest fields, and not do poo picking. But poo picking is normal in DIY yards, though not always in winter "sacrificial" grazing. Its very difficult to poo pick in mud.

There is a yard near me which offers full livery for £100 a week, but where you have to poo pick your turnout paddock yourself! Although apparantly you can pay another livery to do your poo picking for you. Seems a bit bizarre.

For £100 per week I'd be buggered if I would poo pick !!!!!

 

[AngieandBen]

Well, I actually love poo picking, I have three ponies on 4 acres and I do it twice a day! Especially on a cold crisp sunny morning, nothing nicer than taking the dog up the field and poopicking while he hac a run around

Maybe I'm mad lol, My field is not even muddy, looks more like a football pitch!

 

[BonneMaman]

I left my last yard because of the rediculous winter poo picking routine. I joined the yard last early summer with 2 ponies and was told I only had to poo pick one day. However, winter loomed and I was told I had to do two days even though my two were coming in for the winter at night and by the way all the pipes freeze so you have to bring water from home.

Sorry to say that I just couldn't have coped holding down a full time job, two young children, 2 ponies and all those jobs too.

I really cannot see the point of poo picking in the winter when the horses are hock deep in mud - they are eating hay and not grazing so why?

So, I left. Simples - get yourself a nice yard where stuff like that is take can of by YO and you pay for the privelage.
;-)

 

[PolarSkye]

Why is there a need to poo pick it degrades ? I have a couple of acres of land for my boy and where the poo drops it shall stay !

Pasture management . . . the field Kal is in is not huge and the grass quality is not great either . . . so picking up the poos means the grass has a chance to grow. He shares his field with two other horses so it's also important that we stay on top of worm burdens . . . we conduct worm/egg burden counts in the spring and the autumn and, assuming they're clear only worm for the things the worm counts doesn't pick up (tapeworm and encysted redworms) . . . it would be harder to do that if we didn't consistently clear the pasture.

Lastly, aesthetics . . . I LIKE seeing a nice clear pasture. We poo pick every evening.

P

 

[AngieandBen]

Pasture management . . . the field Kal is in is not huge and the grass quality is not great either . . . so picking up the poos means the grass has a chance to grow. He shares his field with two other horses so it's also important that we stay on top of worm burdens . . . we conduct worm/egg burden counts in the spring and the autumn and, assuming they're clear only worm for the things the worm counts doesn't pick up (tapeworm and encysted redworms) . . . it would be harder to do that if we didn't consistently clear the pasture.

Lastly, aesthetics . . . I LIKE seeing a nice clear pasture. We poo pick every evening.

P

Exactly, come and look at my field, I've no mud at all, just lovely grazing, never have to feed hay, Its false economy, if you looked after the pasture better it wouldn't cost you a fortune in feeding hay! Plus I actually like my field to look like a field, not a bog of mud and *****, I think I take pride, but then its my own land; yet another reason I don't have liveries, a lot just aren't bothered.

 

[mollichop]

Well, I actually love poo picking, I have three ponies on 4 acres and I do it twice a day! Especially on a cold crisp sunny morning, nothing nicer than taking the dog up the field and poopicking while he hac a run around

Maybe I'm mad lol, My field is not even muddy, looks more like a football pitch!

Same here (2 horses on 3 acres though. I enjoy muck picking with the dogs and the fields look amazing.

I really take pride in having a clean field and can't beleive some of the **** filled places I drive past sometimes. Not picked, not harrowed, not rotated. Just over grazed and horses having to pick around **** and mud

 

[Fellewell]

Keeping horses is hard work. In winter when the weather report says not to venture out unless you have to, I know that does not apply to me.
Poo picking is essential for keeping an eye on your horse's health/food intake apart from being good for the pasture.
The grazing may be rented but your horse's health relies on its maintenance. Surely that is motivation enough?

 

[Serenity087]

What I want to know is...

Why YOs still think it's acceptable in this day and age to let people turn horses out in mud you can't get a wheelbarrow through?

You think thats a struggle? how hard do you think it is to drag 450kgs of horse through mud?

I pooh picked every day and I put a lot of effort into ensuring my horse was never standing in mud I couldn't get a wheelbarrow through...

 

[AngieandBen]

What I want to know is...

Why YOs still think it's acceptable in this day and age to let people turn horses out in mud you can't get a wheelbarrow through?

You think thats a struggle? how hard do you think it is to drag 450kgs of horse through mud?

I pooh picked every day and I put a lot of effort into ensuring my horse was never standing in mud I couldn't get a wheelbarrow through...

Because most yards have too many horses on too little land; I have nearly 6 acres and only three ponies, they live out, I save most of my land for winter having taken 17 large bales of hay off it before they went on it in Ocotber. I sell it to my neighbour

Pet hate, mud!!

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

poo picking??? My fields are just harrowed and rolled every year and only my two on the fields except for the litte herd of occasional sheeps that appear then disappear

I would maybe take YP's OH to the piles and go ''so whats that then??? Scotch Mist??'' if your leaving then fine but Id take great delight in the above AFTER you have your deposit

 

[mountainview22]

1. Why would I venture into a field to look at muck when I clean their stables every day - please do not make out that I don't give a ****, I do.

2. Why the hell should I much a field out when YO has that flashy tractor bought out of money I PAY for his/her GRAZING/stable? Or did that tractor get paid for some other way?

3. shoot me down by all means, my horses are domesticated, they don't get thrown from a clean warm stable into a mud pit. Yes I may baby them, but that's my beef no one elses.

I find it down right disrespectful that yes, some yards request poo picking, others don't. Maybe you pay for the right not to have to poo pick, maybe YO's a soft touch and just gets it done. Either way, the way OP was spoken to is by no far strech acceptable, but this is being looked over.

You can't change how or what someone does with there animals, there's many variations on "right" way to do things. You can however expect not to be spoken to like OP was by someone who's bills you pay, wether OP was infact being lazy/in pain is not down to us to comment upon, likewise people who may not poo pick, I didn't realise it was law to poo pick your own land.

I think the best advice to come from the thread is maybe explain to next yard that you do find certain tasks physically challenging. Just put what's happened into your bank of experience

 

[Enfys]

Who the h#### does the YO OH think he is a big bully by the sound of it, why do they take a deposit, cos they are greedy, and now they want an excuse to keep it................ RANT over..............

By deposit do you mean livery payment a month in advance? Or a deposit against damage/moonflight flits?

I imagine the system works like so, this is how I do it anyhow -

If I give you notice you stay your month (or whatever) or if you leave before then you are refunded for the days unused.

If you give notice then you use up your month or forfeit any days not used.

Simple, nothing greedy about it.

 

[Enfys]

1. Why would I venture into a field to look at muck when I clean their stables every day - please do not make out that I don't give a ****, I do.

2. Why the hell should I much a field out when YO has that flashy tractor bought out of money I PAY for his/her GRAZING/stable? Or did that tractor get paid for some other way?

3. shoot me down by all means, my horses are domesticated, they don't get thrown from a clean warm stable into a mud pit. Yes I may baby them, but that's my beef no one elses.

Woooooooooo, someone rattled your cage on this subject didn't they

Come here, I don't expect my Boarders to lift a finger other than to play with their horses, I don't want them to because I like to do things my way. That is why I don't have DIY. A dozen people doing things a dozen different ways would drive me mad.

Being pedantic here, as a flashy tractor certainly costs more than many of us make in a year I hardly think your livery makes much of a dent in the payments for it to be fair

 

[Pocket_Rocket]

I have to agree with the OP I don't think the situation was dealt with very well. It seems as though your YO's husband needs to grow up you ask someone to do something give them an opportunity to do it/compromise and go from there. Not act like a child! Throwing his toys out the pram!

I am very lucky at my yard it's DIY and I don't do any poo picking as the fields are rotated and harrowed. The YO has recently got some sheep in an attempt to maintain the land. I dont think field maintenance should be solely for YO's or owners (DIY) one must follow the other. If the YO sets an example maintaining the fields and having some pride then that will rub off on the owners and as a result the majority of people will work together. I think it's a two way thing. However I think it's poor to expect owners to poo pick this time of year in the dark, wet & muddy conditions save it for the weekend when it's light. If access is bad then either the YO can help by getting a tractor & trailer out there & the owners help poo pick or it won't get done. Simple really it works both ways owners want nice land for their horses and yard owners want their fields maintained so work together and get it done. Simples

 

[noodle_]

You bad, bad person you. Go straight to the naughty corner and stay there!

I very rarely muck pick in winter as I can't get a wheelbarrow to the field. My YM is fine with that. If you are lazy, what on earth does that make me

You're better off out of it and I hop your new yard is much nicer

this ^

Im planning on po picking tomorow act - havent done it for about 3 weeks my field has been semi underwater on and off so physically couldnt!! else i do it daily - in summer its daily or i dont rest!!!




i think your YO needs to chill!!!

he may have a point- but theres ways of putting things accross!!

 

[jhoward]

1. Why would I venture into a field to look at muck when I clean their stables every day - please do not make out that I don't give a ****, I do.

2. Why the hell should I much a field out when YO has that flashy tractor bought out of money I PAY for his/her GRAZING/stable? Or did that tractor get paid for some other way?

3. shoot me down by all means, my horses are domesticated, they don't get thrown from a clean warm stable into a mud pit. Yes I may baby them, but that's my beef no one elses.

I find it down right disrespectful that yes, some yards request poo picking, others don't. Maybe you pay for the right not to have to poo pick, maybe YO's a soft touch and just gets it done. Either way, the way OP was spoken to is by no far strech acceptable, but this is being looked over.

*SNORTS* that has to be the funniest post ive read for some time., IT A BLOODY HORSE... you know desighned and domesticated to LIVE IN A FIELD.

again *snorts*

 

[mountainview22]

Woooooooooo, someone rattled your cage on this subject didn't they

Come here, I don't expect my Boarders to lift a finger other than to play with their horses, I don't want them to because I like to do things my way. That is why I don't have DIY. A dozen people doing things a dozen different ways would drive me mad.

Being pedantic here, as a flashy tractor certainly costs more than many of us make in a year I hardly think your livery makes much of a dent in the payments for it to be fair

It's been a long one to say the least... please do excuse me.

Look back to where i said "If you want something done properly, Do it yourself" not me being a pratt, That's just how I go about everything lol.

Again, I agree, maybe i don't quite pay for a brand new tractor in a year (or ten for that matter "/) but surley someone who makes theyr'e money from a livery yard pays for their car/house/yard etc from the livery money? or am I thinking wrong?

More annoyed at the whole "If you don't poo pick you don't look after your horse" or somewhat close to that opinion. It's like me voicing my opinion of a customer who has their horse on full livery and pops up once a year to see the horse, It's not needed...

 

[mountainview22]

*SNORTS* that has to be the funniest post ive read for some time., IT A BLOODY HORSE... you know desighned and domesticated to LIVE IN A FIELD.

again *snorts*

I'm presuming you mean it's a bloody horse... and designed yeah?

I'm not 100% on this, but I'm almost certain that in the wild they do not stand upto their gut in mud in a secure fenced area with a rug on "/ but maybe that's just me being silly



Oh, and whilst we are on the topic of silly/childish posts, I think you may well have just out done me on that one.

 

[SpruceRI]

What IS interesting from this post and something I've never considered before....

If you pay for full livery, do the staff poo-pick all the fields?

I know lots of yards that insist that DIY'ers poo pick their fields, but I don't know of ANY yards that provide full livery AND their staff poo-pick outside?

 

[smellsofhorse]

What IS interesting from this post and something I've never considered before....

If you pay for full livery, do the staff poo-pick all the fields?

I know lots of yards that insist that DIY'ers poo pick their fields, but I don't know of ANY yards that provide full livery AND their staff poo-pick outside?

I thought this.
If poo picking is essential for the diyer, so the horses on full livery get it done as part of the care?

 

[Janah]

At my last place I poo picked virtually every day, carried water daily, (none in the field), fixed rotten fence regularly and weeded. All for £30 per week!

 

[migmogmash]

What IS interesting from this post and something I've never considered before....

If you pay for full livery, do the staff poo-pick all the fields?

I know lots of yards that insist that DIY'ers poo pick their fields, but I don't know of ANY yards that provide full livery AND their staff poo-pick outside?

The yard I recently left offered full livery and this did include staff poo picking the fields, only from April-Oct though. I was on DIY and expected to keep my field done or pay extra for staff to do it as a service.

I also know of at least one other yard in the area where staff routinely poo pick the fields and they offer full livery only.

Admittedly these are the only two I've come across like this, as you say lots of yards where DIY's poo picking their fields is the norm. Personally I don't mind it, quite therapeutic but I've never been expected to do it over winter.

 

[Bernster]

I've been at 4 full livery yards and each of them they did the poo picking. Some more often than others but I have been fortunate to avoid PP duties on the whole But then I pay a small mortgage for my horse to get looked after, so I don't feel guilty about it !