Ned Rearing - Video

I meant there. I'm on my phone and I have autocorrect(sorry for that!) I know we need to minimise the risk and I'm not going to go onto the video subject, but no one personally knows ned and if she thinks she can do it without anyone's help then leave it at that. You can't help someone that doesn't want to be helped.

If you think it's ok to just let someone trundle on with what they're doing - oblivious to the danger they put themselves and others in that's your prerogative.

Thankfully others disagree.
 
Interesting. Not listening to you, worried (horses who are forced to take charge tend to look like that).

And on a main road too. Like I said. Hope it's got insurance.

Have to say that I agree with every word.

OK maybe it is not a main road but it is a road nonetheless!

Why is he on a long line at this point?

He is very much still in charge in this video :(
 
Yes I agree the way she is leading him looks to be silly, but is their any way it may just be the view of the camera? I'm not saying it is but I'm just being open minded, there is some helpful critism on here but as I said before if she doesn't want to take it leave her be, it may be silly, but she is a grown woman, it's her choice :)

I don't quite see how standing behind the horse - we can quite clearly see his backside - is the angle of the video.

Likewise, I don't quite see how wafting around on the side of the road is also down to the angle of the camera.....
 
Oh my word Nah, it would only take one spook and you would be in an awful pickle. As well as you think you know him, all horses can have a funny five mins and he isn't a dog - he is big, powerful animal and if he is frightened by something, he isn't going to give you a second thought while he tries to get away.

Please be careful!
 
I'm not saying it is because the angle of the camera, I was suggesting, yes she is going down the side of a road,yes, I wouldn't because I dont like riding on roads! But of course she should have a shorter line but I think people need to calm down a little as she now is aware of the problem
 
Christ, leave her to it. She wants to walk it like a poodle on a long lead, let her.

It'll end up with zero confidence, someone will get hurt, horse will be sold as dangerous. Lion will have a nice sunday lunch.

Harsh maybe, but if the OP doesn't want to listen then that's obviously the only route she wants for her dog - sorry - horse.
 
Well, she's currently busy with the PM system so hopefully she's taking some good advice rather than being stuffed full of the "Oh the fuddy duddy old witches have got it in for you this afternoon" type of thing.

No-one is doing this because they enjoy being mean.
 
Funnily enough I am a dog trainer and my first thought was well that's just how folk let their dogs behave then wonder why they don't have any respect for their owners...

This was my inclination too.

However, I have nothing further to add regarding leading and respect issues which have been well dealt with. I would re-iterate on the strength of the unsoundness in trot on the second video, that the OP gets the horse vetted if she is determined to buy it. You need to go into this with your eyes open, Nah.
 
LAME. Clearly. Long line on the road, head up and startled, looking all over the place, deciding when to move and when not to. When I have found myself next to a horse acting like that. My heart has always been racing as I am very aware that the horse isn't taking one single bit of notice of me. Not good.
 
Different point entirely, but in the first video it looks like the long line is wrapped around your fingers-please be careful, broken fingers aren't nice.
 
He looks lame to me as well. He is in charge, you will get hurt one day. I'm sure your YO isn't too bothered what you are doing with him, if I recall, it's not the sort of riding school that I would send anyone to.
You won't listen to the good advice that is given, you come across as someone who doesn't want to learn. I hope you have good health insurance....
 
The horse is absolutely crippled lame behind......


I saw that some one said he's a Standard Bred (AKA Harness Racers Breed that can pace). This could be why his trot look lame, he might pace, but trot at slow speeds, some of the pacers I worked with used to look pretty lame in trot just as it wasn't their natural gait.

Please OP get help, I have seen your story many times and it quite often ends with a lot of upset. One of my fav things about horses is they are great levellers, to improve our horses we have to first improve ourselves.
 
Nah. He certainly looks lame in the video.
I hope you do take the advice. You've been given good advice from experienced people.
Good luck.
 
I saw that some one said he's a Standard Bred (AKA Harness Racers Breed that can pace). This could be why his trot look lame, he might pace, but trot at slow speeds, some of the pacers I worked with used to look pretty lame in trot just as it wasn't their natural gait.

Before I disappear, this.
He's a standardbred, a reformed pacer. He looks ridiculous in trot and canter.

I have taken in all the advise, hence why I said thank you.

I can't reply to everyone, I get completely overwhelmed and my brain just fizzles out. I have read every post. I love to learn, especially about horses. Don't assume I don't, just because I haven't replied, or used a specific point.

That is all, I will continue to read, but I'm not replying. Over and out.
 
I saw that some one said he's a Standard Bred (AKA Harness Racers Breed that can pace). This could be why his trot look lame, he might pace, but trot at slow speeds, some of the pacers I worked with used to look pretty lame in trot just as it wasn't their natural gait.

Please OP get help, I have seen your story many times and it quite often ends with a lot of upset. One of my fav things about horses is they are great levellers, to improve our horses we have to first improve ourselves.

He is only lame on one hind leg and clearly drops only one hip. If it was an unusual gait he would drop both hips the same, but his legs may look odd.

Anyway, it's not something the OP wants to take on board sadly.
 
He is only lame on one hind leg and clearly drops only one hip. If it was an unusual gait he would drop both hips the same, but his legs may look odd.

Anyway, it's not something the OP wants to take on board sadly.

Agreed, and there is quite a distinct 'head bob' in the trot along with dropping his hip which indicates lameness. Worrying that so many people can tell this from a bouncing blurred video and OP cant.
Hope you decide to take some advice and be safe.
 
Sady from what I've seen and read I don't think the OP has enough experience to judge if the horse is lame or not :-(
 
NAH - I know you're getting a grilling, but just wanted to have one more little comment re the lameness. I have retrained 2 pacers, so I know exactly what you mean about the ridiculousness of the trot and canter. BUT - the ridiculousness makes it harder to diagnose lameness, rather than making them look lame. He's very obviously lame, which is quite an achievement for a horse whose natural paces are a bit odd!
 
Without going on, can I just add that I have watched a couple of your earlier videos of Ned and he looks perfectly sound. In your recently video, he definitely does not. His head is bobbing and his hip is dropping.

At the very least, please trot him up on a hard surface for an experienced person to look at, they will be able to make a better judgement.

Please just do this next time you are at the yard for your horses sake.
 
At first I was thinking that your work with him was doing him - and you - some real good and you have done well to improve him as you have.

Then I watched the second video....he goes ahead of you, drags you through that gap (if something startled him and he bolted (and all horses ARE capable of bolting, bucking, kicking out etc etc) you'd be on your face, being dragged potentially in the pathway of flying hooves) it shocked me that you do this and others on your yard allow you to do this.

No matter WHAT horse I'm walking in hand (be it our 16.2hh ISH or our friend's Shetland) I will have a hat on, they have their bridles on and I will put myself at their shoulder between them and any cars (and our roads are very quiet too!). The Highway Code states the rules for leading and riding an animal...I suggest you give it a read :)

Please take some of the advice on here for your - and Ned's - sakes.
K x
 
I agree with everyone else...I know you really do love him, but Ned is most definitely in control and see's himself as the leader here. And I can see that not just from these 2 videos but previous videos you have posted in the past.

The video of HIM leading YOU about is very dangerous, it only takes one little spook and you would have no control or be kicked in the face! I honestly could not believe someone would walk their horse the way I just saw Ned pull you through that hedge. He is deciding when to stop and have a look around and taking the pee.

He is most definitely lame in that second video, I have seen other videos of him and he looks fine, but this one not so. I have worked with a couple of standardbreds out of racing so I understand their ridiculous paces, but he is head bobbing and his hip is dropping in that video.
 
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I appreciate this thread will be unpalatable for you Nah, and I feel sorry for you having everyone replying with things you will not want to hear, but please understand no one is trying to hurt or upset you.
 
Nah - I hope you see this, I do have one bit of advice aside from what all the others have said (and I agree with). If you want to walk out your horse or use a bridle when turning out I would really recommend a straight bar snaffle with a coupling. It gives a far clearer signal to the horse than a jointed bit. We lead all the TB yearlings and foals in them for sales prep, plus use them on any stallion we have in for quarantine or the mares when we need to examine them.
There are a whole load of other things I could say but everyone has said them already.
 
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