Ned Rearing - Video

Hi Nah, I just wanted to say that Ned reminds me of my mare quite alot. She tries to be the leader and feels the need to try and look after us both. She's very looky when been ridden or led, just like Ned is doing. When she's relaxed she doesn't do this because she knows I'm looking after her.

I do agree with people that you need to be a leader for him so he can relax and focus on what you are asking of him (walking down the road) I would think my mare was being very rude if she was stopping at looking like Ned is.

Be assertive :)
 
I'm now just left wondering why the OP posted in the first place:confused:
What was the point if she isn't going to take everything on board?
The very obvious lameness is quite possibly at the root of her problems and if she won't accept that advice, then it's just a waste of time carrying on trying to convince her.
I have seen many horses suffer over the last twenty years through the stubbourness and head in the sand attitude of their owners, we're wasting our time, so i'm over and out too:(
 
Provided none of it is caused by pain (quite hard to tell if he is lame due to angle of the video although the last little bit of him trotting from the side he looks a bit unsound but may just be angle of the camera):

He does look to be "running" along a bit willy-nilly esp where he shoots through the walkway into the big field near the end. If you want to take him out for walks how about trying a shorter lead rope length rope and making him stop when you want, praise him, then walk when you want, move over etc lots of stop start, he goes when you want he waits when you want etc. Would poss help him respect you a bit as he only does what you want at the times you want.

You can still have fun with him and have a chat with him etc but he will be learning at the same time.

Just looking at the video of him in the fields would be worried he may get away from you as others have said as he looks v excited. Also if you were by his shoulder you'd be in no danger of being kicked etc.
 
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Cannot help them that do not want to be helped!
The horse is lame, plain and simple but the owner knows enough to say that he isn't.
The horse has no respect but the owner says he has.
The horse is a danger but the owner says he isn't

Sorry folks, you ARE ALL WRONG because the owner and the YO know best.
 
Also not sure how you'd stand for insurance using lunge lune should the worst hapen and he damage a car etc as think rules state the horse should be under control but dont quote me on it and i stand to be corrected!.

Maybe use the long line for getting him out the gate then have a lead rop just outside the gate you can quickly change to for his walk.
 
Nah, please be careful - that second video scared me! I was always taught you lead from the shoulder or slightly in front of the shoulder, horse should be paying attention and you should have full control, especially on the road and everything was the opposite in your video. Please take the advice of the people on this thread - I know it's probably not what you wanted to hear but they are right.
 
Sometimes, sosmeone comes along who really irritates me. This is one such person. Was just going to ignore all the dribble she has been waffling but seriously,,,,NAH,,, you think that your jorse IS NOT LAME???? You are joking arent you?? Because he is most definitely lame. And if you have noticed it then you need it pointed out to you! That it what people on here are trying to do for goodness sake! Also, if you didnt want advice or CC, then why post it in the first place? At every point where someone has made a suggestion, offered advice etc, you have come back with a feeble reason or excuse as to why you cannot do certain things or are unwilling to try. That little horse is clearly lame and also misguided. He is an unhappy horse who feels insecure! End of!

Or are you a little troll????
 
haven't read all the replies,just looked at second video and posted.

Why don't you have consistency in your ground work. Sometimes you are in front, sometimes behind? why? You should always be leading.

Why is the horse allowed to stop and look round whenever it likes. If that was my lad and he stopped and looked, i'd pull his focus back and get him walking to my pace and my direction.

From your body language with your horse in those videos, it completely seems like your horse is in charge, he sets the pace and stops when he wants. If a horse i was leading trotted off on me, i'd be very forceful and back it up. It's such a disrespectful thing for the horse to do, and u let him away with it. So its not surprising he acts ups. A bit of consistency in the handling would sort it out.
 
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This is ridiculous.

Grow up, take the advice given and have a vet look at your obviously lame horse.

Some of the idiots in the horse world really do shock me.
 
Nah said:
Thank you all for your opinions and advice.

He is not lame.
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I know that you don't want to hear it, but he is :(

People aren't saying these things to be nasty or upset you, but because we are concerned that you, and/or, Ned, may well be injured if you carry on the way that you are.

Did you see the photos on the thread I posted? I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I didn't warn you what you are risking by walking behind him, and being as out of control as you are.
 
Hmm, I must say I've seen a similar 'look' and behaviour from my big lad over the last couple of weeks in hand (he's been on 10 weeks box rest and just moved yards) and it has scared me witless. I hate leading a horse with that head up watchfull eye look, and at that point I would be either swapping into a dually or bridle (from a head collar) and am usually to be found holding the noseband of the head collar with a shoulder firmly wedged into the horse's shoulder - I will NOT let a horse get in front if me like that, it's just downright dangerous :(
He also looks lame to me I'm afraid, and I would not stand for that striking out effort from him - I don't think you need to be aggressive/physical in punishing but if mine did that he would get growled at pushed back and sent well out of my space straight away :(
It is a shame if the OP is not reading or has been scared off by the number of posts, but please OP, do take heed of the sheer number of people responding...?
 
Billie1007 said:
LAME. Clearly. Long line on the road, head up and startled, looking all over the place, deciding when to move and when not to. When I have found myself next to a horse acting like that. My heart has always been racing as I am very aware that the horse isn't taking one single bit of notice of me. Not good.
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That, Nah I think you do very well generally and I'm crap at lameness so won't try to say if he is or not but when you are leading it should be like riding, they stop when you say and walk obediently to heel. They have 23 hours a day to be horses, for the hour that they wear tack they can blinking well do as we say.
 
PS two weeks of consistent firm handling in a dually and getting back into a routine and roo is now back to normal, in a head collar, walks with his head at my shoulder and never more than a foot away from me or behind me. But the longer he's allowed to behave like this, the longer it will take to undo.
 
Sorry nah but I too am with the majority. Lots of good advice already so I won't go into specifics. What I will say though is him being the leader is the root of all your problems. So far you appear to have been tackling each issue individually, the napping, loading etc. Which is why, 5yrs on you still have issues. He may well have had a bad past, but 5yrs on he should be able to do basic things like hack alone, load, lead etc. And I think if he accepted you as leader, the majority of his issues would fade away a lot.
I also have zilch respect for your yo. If she was up to the job, he wouldn't be like he is, & you would also have been shown the right way to handle him too. Likewise, yo, not you, should take responsibility for his lameness.
The practical side of me says you should leave him be & find a decent rs. But I also understand that feelings for an individual horse can over rule what's logical. And I strongly doubt you'll walk away. So imo you need to find a yard with an experienced yo, buy him, move him & become the leader Ned actually needs. As it is, the current situation is doing nothing for your safety or training, & nothing for neds training either.
 
muff747 said:
I'm now just left wondering why the OP posted in the first place:confused:
What was the point if she isn't going to take everything on board?
The very obvious lameness is quite possibly at the root of her problems and if she won't accept that advice, then it's just a waste of time carrying on trying to convince her.
I have seen many horses suffer over the last twenty years through the stubbourness and head in the sand attitude of their owners, we're wasting our time, so i'm over and out too:(
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This exactly, sadly I think you will find this isn't the first thread that the OP has shut her eyes to. Nobody wants to see either her or the horse hurt but any advice falls on deaf ears. But it's ok Nah, you just continue until someone gets hurt, you know best......
 
I can see there's some good advice here (along with a few unkind digs :() but surely once Nah has said:

Nah said:
I have taken in all the advise, hence why I said thank you.

I can't reply to everyone, I get completely overwhelmed and my brain just fizzles out. I have read every post. I love to learn, especially about horses. Don't assume I don't, just because I haven't replied, or used a specific point.
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Then there's really no need to repeat the same stuff over and say things like:

Foxhunter49 said:
Sorry folks, you ARE ALL WRONG because the owner and the YO know best.
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Or get nasty and personal:

sykokat said:
Sometimes, sosmeone comes along who really irritates me. This is one such person. Was just going to ignore all the dribble she has been waffling but seriously,,,,NAH,,, you think that your jorse IS NOT LAME???? You are joking arent you?? Because he is most definitely lame. And if you have noticed it then you need it pointed out to you! That it what people on here are trying to do for goodness sake! Also, if you didnt want advice or CC, then why post it in the first place? At every point where someone has made a suggestion, offered advice etc, you have come back with a feeble reason or excuse as to why you cannot do certain things or are unwilling to try. That little horse is clearly lame and also misguided. He is an unhappy horse who feels insecure! End of!

Or are you a little troll????
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:eek: Hardly, Nah is a regular contributer :confused:

Ladybird said:
This is ridiculous.

Grow up, take the advice given and have a vet look at your obviously lame horse.

Some of the idiots in the horse world really do shock me.
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lhotse said:
This exactly, sadly I think you will find this isn't the first thread that the OP has shut her eyes to. Nobody wants to see either her or the horse hurt but any advice falls on deaf ears. But it's ok Nah, you just continue until someone gets hurt, you know best......
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Nah has said it's not falling on deaf ears. Couldn't people please now respect that and let it be? :)
 
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But it does, over and over. The horse is clearly lame, and being allowed to behave in a manner that endangers the handler, but she continues to find excuses for that handling and also says that he is sound when he isn't. It's not the first time that she has ignored advice, hence saying that it's falling on deaf ears.
 
lhotse said:
But it does, over and over. The horse is clearly lame, and being allowed to behave in a manner that endangers the handler, but she continues to find excuses for that handling and also says that he is sound when he isn't. It's not the first time that she has ignored advice, hence saying that it's falling on deaf ears.
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But surely, if Nah says she's reading and thinking about the advice, that's enough? I know when I've been critisized here I get a bit defensive on the thread, it doesn't mean I don't act on the advice later. In fact quite the opposite.

I think Nah's wise to say she's not going to comment now, as she's probably feeling a bit got at and might not be at her most reasonable. Nah has a history here of taking advice given very seriously.

I just think it's all been said now, there's no need for people to get personal or call her a troll. Not saying it was you who did that, btw! :)
 
rhino said:
This :)
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amen!

and for those people that are repeating themselves again and again like a broken record but getting uglier each time ... I suggest looking back at your posts, some of you are in denial that you are out and out bullies & i bet you won't be posting to say that you recognise this fact :(
 
nothing to add that hasnt been said already...

however Puppy, I wasnt about on here when you had your accident although IVe just looked back and seen some of the posts around that time :eek: You poor thing:eek: If its not too upsetting for you I wondered if you would mind further explaining how NAH’S video reminds you of it? Obviously her horse is wandering about at the length of the rope, calling the shots but I just wondered if youd mind sharing if there was anything you could have done on that day to avoid what happened to you, so the rest of us can learn? Sorry if thats not on to ask..
 
Hello nah
I know this thread isn't what you want to hear, but I hope you are still reading & you take in the advise, it is only out of concern for you and Ned that pepple are posting.
I'm sorry but Ned does look lame and he should really be checked over to find out why.
I don't know if you own him or lease him from a rs? If he's not yours, then I understand how hard it is if the owner will not take the correct action, ie vet, sort out ned's problems.
I will say that if you do own him or are buying him please get the vet to him, also please move him to a yard where you can get some pratical help with his issues and where you will stay safe.
Kx
 
I am sorry- bu I think that people are being a little hard on Nah s leading skills from the video.
Because , in the film I dont think she is LEADING him - I think she is FILMING him, probably from her phone
She sounds like a sensible girl , and I presume she thought the traffic situation was safe enough to take her attertion off her horse and attend to filming him ,and to get him in the frame he would have to be away from her
Yes he does look like a horse whose handler is not fully "with" him
But when the phone was back in her pocket and she walked on, attending to her horse it probably would have loked more like you want to see.
 
Over nearly six decades there is not much I haven't seen with horses and, this is an accident waiting to happen!
Allowing a horse to get ahead like that when leading it out means that there is no control at all. If the animal spooked or double barrelled Nah would have no chance at all and if the horse got loose and cause an accident then it could become a serious liability case. I hope they are well insured.

If you want a horse to go ahead then for safety sake, long rein it though I doubt Nah has any experience of this.
 
There seems to be a culture sadly that the younger generation are more bothered about filming videos for you tube then they are about just getting on with things and handling the horse properly.

In the first video standing there and shaking the lunge line at him is not going to achieve anything and the second video gets my back up I'm afraid. If he decided to tank off which at some points he looks like he's giving it serious thought you would find with no horse in your hands and probably left with a nice rope burn.

He's a lovely horse but he needs some work. Weren't you having lessons on him? Could you ask your instructor for ground help too or his owner?
 
:/ I think, after all this time, the horse should have learnt who is in charge.
He really is a pee taker.
The leading/walking in hand is a worry, I have to agree with everyone else..
The horse should not be left to do as he pleases, if, just if, something flew out of a bush, or a sudden bang, you would just lose him, and with the long line dangling.. having lost a horse who tripped on just a normal lead rope (with a bit of wood attached though, but same thing, it got under his feet) and broke his neck and died in an instant, it is too awful to contemplate :(
You must have control of him, please nah.
Forget the shooting a video to show how clever he is, take control, get him some manners, you can lose them in a snap of a finger :(

Also, I have been booted in the gut by a front kicker, damn it hurts..
 
I wasn't going to comment as everyone else's has been ignored. But nonetheless I feel I have to.

You look like you're out walking a dog. He's constantly stopping and looking around. This suggests he's looking for a herd leader . YOU should be the leader. Still don't 'get' why he's walking out in front of you?! He's in such an advantaged position should he spook/take off/kick. I'd also say he's lame at the back.
 
I'm only adding one thing, Nah if you're reading, how often on this forum have you seen this many posters in agreement? There's generally a good argument, a few snide digs here and there, but here, many different horse owners from many backgrounds of all ages have in effect said the same thing.

Have a good think on Nah- from your other posts I can see you adore Ned, but you need to take a step back and really look at other horses, how they go, what their manners are like, how they handle, then go back and objectively look at Ned.

Best of luck x
 
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