Need girth for round cob

[Goofus]

My cob hates his Adam Ellis GP girth, but other more comfortable girths I've tried (stretchier, neoprene, fuzzy) have resulted in the saddle slipping from side to side. Is there a comfortable girth that will keep the saddle in place on a round horse? Just doing up the Adam Ellis is torture for both of us.

 

[Katieg123]

https://www.oldmillsaddlery.com/en/...3ay_PJUupAB_tO6xoFSg381Q9NSJK39xoCqoQQAvD_BwE

I use this one! I find it really helps with saddles not slipping

 

[mariew]

String girths are supposed to be grippier if you haven't tried one of them.

 

[jnb]

Try the Professional's Choice Ventech

 

[MuddyMonster]

I've been really impressed with the Shires Arma anatomical anti chafe non elasticated girth. Saddle hasn't moved, even when I've had to clamber on from the floor at all sorts of odd angles ?

 

[Barton Bounty]

I've been really impressed with the Shires Arma anatomical anti chafe non elasticated girth. Saddle hasn't moved, even when I've had to clamber on from the floor at all sorts of odd angles ?

I second this but I have the arma fleece anatomical ? which is the same but fleecy?

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

I use a flexigirth on my round Arab it's the only girth that stops the saddle moving on him brilliant girths in my opinion.

 

[rextherobber]

I use the Stubben string girth on my rotund Welsh D, very happy with it.

 

[Barton Bounty]

My cob hates his Adam Ellis GP girth, but other more comfortable girths I've tried (stretchier, neoprene, fuzzy) have resulted in the saddle slipping from side to side. Is there a comfortable girth that will keep the saddle in place on a round horse? Just doing up the Adam Ellis is torture for both of us.

What size of girth is he ? I have two string ones if you want to try? They are 46”

 

[sbloom]

I find that what works depends on the saddle fit quite often. The way that I fit I prefer a bit of give in a girth and recommend the Dabbs synthetic elasticated girth as well as the Stubben cord girth. The latter isn't elasticated as such so might work with a saddle where the fitter would say to never use elastic.

What is the design of the Adam Ellis? Bear in mind the reason he might hate it is that it does pin the saddle in place, be really sure that it's not more down to you and the horse that the saddle is slipping. Asymmetry in movement can make the best fitting saddles slip and it's highly unlikely that this isn't part of the issue. Equally there's a chance that the saddle isn't quite right, and only by shifting it can he be comfy. We have to think holistically and a bit outside the box with these things.

Basically, always ask your fitter for guidance on pads, girths and which girth straps to use if there's a choice; in this instance if they really can't help then you may just have to try some.

 

[Goofus]

What size of girth is he ? I have two string ones if you want to try? They are 46”

He is a 54"

 

[Barton Bounty]

He is a 54"

Lol cant send you one ?

 

[Nasicus]

https://www.oldmillsaddlery.com/en/...3ay_PJUupAB_tO6xoFSg381Q9NSJK39xoCqoQQAvD_BwE

I use this one! I find it really helps with saddles not slipping

Good to know theres another brand that does this style out there, I always used these ones for my roly-poly cobs:
https://www.oldmillsaddlery.com/en/...d-CYQ3-0ifxqHRoYhNqjCnBY7APYJze4aAqLoEALw_wcB

 

[rara007]

Professionals choice ventec

 

[Goofus]

What is the design of the Adam Ellis? Bear in mind the reason he might hate it is that it does pin the saddle in place, be really sure that it's not more down to you and the horse that the saddle is slipping. Asymmetry in movement can make the best fitting saddles slip and it's highly unlikely that this isn't part of the issue. Equally there's a chance that the saddle isn't quite right, and only by shifting it can he be comfy. We have to think holistically and a bit outside the box with these things.

Basically, always ask your fitter for guidance on pads, girths and which girth straps to use if there's a choice; in this instance if they really can't help then you may just have to try some.

This is the girth I purchased from the fitter: Adam Ellis GP girth. We ended up with this because it was the only 54" girth the fitter had.

When I tighten the Adam Ellis girth, the horse reaches his head back and snaps, which he doesn't do for other girths. He is sound, no ulcers, and the saddle was checked and reflocked quite recently. Perhaps I should have the fitter back out, although I'd like to avoid this if possible for financial reasons. The horse's reaction has been this way since we purchased the girth nearly a year ago.

One clue seems to be that the saddle stays in place with the Adam Ellis girth, despite the unbalanced rider. That makes me think it is fitting tighter than the other girths somehow. It seems to have very little (almost no) give.

 

[Goofus]

I use the Stubben string girth on my rotund Welsh D, very happy with it.

Do you find that it stretches out? This is the one I am tempted to try, since it is unlike any we've used so far.

 

[Goofus]

Try the Professional's Choice Ventech

This one we have tried. He definitely prefers it to the Adam Ellis, but the saddle shifts quite a bit.

 

[sbloom]

This is the girth I purchased from the fitter: Adam Ellis GP girth. We ended up with this because it was the only 54" girth the fitter had.

When I tighten the Adam Ellis girth, the horse reaches his head back and snaps, which he doesn't do for other girths. He is sound, no ulcers, and the saddle was checked and reflocked quite recently. Perhaps I should have the fitter back out, although I'd like to avoid this if possible for financial reasons. The horse's reaction has been this way since we purchased the girth nearly a year ago.

One clue seems to be that the saddle stays in place with the Adam Ellis girth, despite the unbalanced rider. That makes me think it is fitting tighter than the other girths somehow. It seems to have very little (almost no) give.

That's a good girth design in my opinion, I think there's something else going on or it's just not the right shape for him. Do you feel he truly can lift through his back when you're riding? Is he straight etc, the check list I put above?

 

[rextherobber]

Do you find that it stretches out? This is the one I am tempted to try, since it is unlike any we've used so far.

It doesn't stretch when you use it or wash it, in my experience.

 

[Goofus]

That's a good girth design in my opinion, I think there's something else going on or it's just not the right shape for him. Do you feel he truly can lift through his back when you're riding? Is he straight etc, the check list I put above?

Could it be that it's too small? Just doing up the first hole is a challenge as this girth has very little give. The Professional's Choice Ventech, which has some stretch, is quite easy to do up and he doesn't seem bothered.

The trainer does seem to feel that he's moving nicely, but girth adjustments have become a part of every lesson.

 

[throwaway2022]

Stubben string or if needing something smart I’ve had great success with Fylde’s anatomical girth

 

[Goofus]

I just ordered a Stubben string girth and will report back. The Flexi-girth will be next if the string girth doesn't do the trick. Thank you to everybody for the wonderful advice

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

I just ordered a Stubben string girth and will report back. The Flexi-girth will be next if the string girth doesn't do the trick. Thank you to everybody for the wonderful advice

My Arab that I use the flexigirth on can be sensitive and his quite happy having it done up, I only use his dressage saddle now and I think his happier in the dressage girth rather than the long one I had on his show saddle, although I think the dressage saddle fits him better so it could just be that.

Arab's are known for letting you know about things they don't like I've always initially done the girth up very loose they are happier that way ?

 

[Goofus]

My Arab that I use the flexigirth on can be sensitive and his quite happy having it done up, I only use his dressage saddle now and I think his happier in the dressage girth rather than the long one I had on his show saddle, although I think the dressage saddle fits him better so it could just be that.

I wish it was a dressage saddle--a dressage girth seems more comfortable than a long girth, but I don't know why I think that. I have a GP because it was the only saddle the fitter had that worked on this round beast

 

[Wheresthehoofpick]

My cob hates his Adam Ellis GP girth, but other more comfortable girths I've tried (stretchier, neoprene, fuzzy) have resulted in the saddle slipping from side to side. Is there a comfortable girth that will keep the saddle in place on a round horse? Just doing up the Adam Ellis is torture for both of us.

To investigate why he hates your anatomical girth... Have you put your fingers under the girth to see if there is even pressure on his sternum. I realised far too late that both my girls were getting back loaded pressure into a really small pressure point from their comfy looking anatomical girths. It's just their shape.

I have gone back to straight girths But have also tried the tapestry comfort which one of mine loves. Can't afford two!

Simple non elastic Thorowgood aero form for my rounder girl.

I am impressed by the flexi girth that's one I have not seen and it's affordable.

Another option is a Le Tixerant.

 

[Goofus]

To investigate why he hates your anatomical girth... Have you put your fingers under the girth to see if there is even pressure on his sternum. I realised far too late that both my girls were getting back loaded pressure into a really small pressure point from their comfy looking anatomical girths. It's just their shape.

I don't even want to think about this, but what if it's...the saddle? If I had piles of money, I'd start all over with new tack for him. He's hard to fit in everything, from bridle to bell boots. I've only had this gelding for a year and absolutely love him. Want him happy as possible!

 

[Kaylum]

Make sure it's even both sides as well. You don't want one side shorter than the other when your doing it up. It should be equal both sides and not on the last hole. i.e it should be big enough.

 

[Miss_Millie]

I don't even want to think about this, but what if it's...the saddle? If I had piles of money, I'd start all over with new tack for him. He's hard to fit in everything, from bridle to bell boots. I've only had this gelding for a year and absolutely love him. Want him happy as possible!

I'm assuming you have had the saddle professionally fitted and checked every few months for any changes needed due to horse changing shape etc?

I'm sorry to say that my horse became very girthy because the saddle was not suitable for her. I decided to buy a new saddle rather than get the other adjusted, as I never found the darn thing comfortable.

Does your horse only show discomfort when saddled, how are they being rugged?

 

[sbloom]

I wish it was a dressage saddle--a dressage girth seems more comfortable than a long girth, but I don't know why I think that. I have a GP because it was the only saddle the fitter had that worked on this round beast

Long girths are generally more stable and more comfortable.

As I said it absolutely could be saddle, depending on budget and therefore choice a dressage saddle is possible for almost all horses bit not for all horse/rider combos. I fitted a very tall rider on a Connie recently, Connie has a wide ribcage which makes the knee go forwards, and the rider needed a shorter stirrup to keep her foot underneath her and to make.contact with the ribcage.

A shorter long girth, the situation you have, is usually good for stability. However maybe use a girth extender on one strap to get it done up, once he relaxes you can get the second step done up properly, remove the extender and fasten the first strap as usual.

I really would talk this through with your fitter. I often see bad results from my customers going off and doing their own thing with girth and pads.

 

[marmalade76]

I use Harry Dabbs Platinum anatomical girths, they're wider than the norm and are available with and without elastic. I found the elastic ones work better on the round, fleshy, cobby ones and the non-elastic works better on the riding pony.