Need Some Help/Guidance re. the Dizzy One - Insurance: LOU - BS

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I'm after your help folks, please :)

I bought Dizzy, then four year old just backed DWB, two years ago in December.

I bought her to BS with; my aim was to get as far as we could go, but would have liked to reach Newcomers with her. I know it takes time, etc. etc. etc., but that isn't what this post is about.

Due to health issues, bony irregularities on her pelvis, her schooling and training and competitive life have not gone to the original plan(!).

We have her insured for LOU, which the insurance company has 'accepted' covers her possibly not being able to BS. We have until the end of this December to claim or not.

We believe that Dizz is now fit enough and matured enough to try to BS. Her jumping schooling has been fairly steady since March/April, though we are now at the stage where she will need to start to jump bigger.

She is always keen to jump and seems to enjoy it.

She is a good horse, one that will give you her last ounce, but she's not one to put up with harsh or abrupt riding; she needs quiet and firm and guidance.

The issue now is who rides her to BS level (and by 'level' I'm not sure what I mean - had it been me doing it and no insurance issue, we'd have been starting right at the bottom and slowly working our way up, for both of us - it's a long, long time since I did any serious jumping). I came off six weeks ago and broke my back, so even if I were competant enough to take her, I can't.

My nearly sixteen year old daughter is capable of jumping serious heights, but she is not experienced in terms of BS courses.

My instructor used to BS and would do so if I asked her to. However, today instructor suggested a local show jumper who would be sympathetic to Dizzy's way of going.

So I'm wondering:
Maybe get D1 (daughter) to ride Dizz during the week and jump grids and schooling jumps; get instructor to do some jumping in the school and out at some unaffiliated classes; then, ask the showjumper to take Dizz for a week and get used to her, then take her to whatever BS classes he thinks suited.

Anyone have any suggestions as to the best way forward? I realise that we are slightly running out of time, i.e. three and a half months.

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My first question would be when is your insurance due/was it due for renewal? I say this because you should have 365 days (12 mths) following renewal of your policy irrespective of whether you renew it or not) to claim for LOU IF the reason for the LOU claim occurred within the insured period. Is this what you are meaning when you say you have until december?

With regards to the jumping, I assume you mean you are wanting to see whether or not she can indeed jump to the level she was intended for and, if it proves she is not then you would be claiming LOU?

Why can't your 16 yo daughter jump her? there is nothing that complex about BS courses really. Certainly nothing more than a 16 year old is capable of doing anyway and, up to newcomers it's fairly straightforward (says me who;s now chicken when it gets to 1m! lol). Still, when I was yoinger i was bolder and would imagine your daighter is to so if it were me i would let her get on with it and enjoy it! That's what it's all about at the end of the day surely isn't it.

I would think it best to get some personal enjoyment out of doing the showjumping as opposed to paying someone else to ride her who you may or not get on with. If she is eligible to start at the bottom then do that, pop her in a few BN and take it from there.
 
Good Evening MrsM...

I don't know how the SJ'er would feel about D1 jumping Dizz in the week and someone else jumping at shows etc... When Ben rides other peoples horses, he usually prefers it that the horse is ridden by him at least once before the show so it is going how he likes it to go... He used to have some owners that had other people ride the horses in the week and when he got on them they were all over the place, then said owner would moan that he wasn't getting the results... Well - you've had div's on them all week and you expect them to come out and jump 1.35's as 6 year olds with such irregular work from him?!?!? I'm not saying in any way that D1 is a div ( just used our old owners as examples ) but it made Ben's job soooo much harder having had someone else jump them too.... Maybe speak with your rider and see how he / she feels about it, but ultimately (sp) Dizz is your horse and the decision is yours...

Let us know how you get on - WITH pics and videos please :)

xxx
 
I don't *think* BS is really any worse than unaffiliated. Especially now there is 70cm class to warm up on. D1 would probably be more than capable. Could you maybe take her out somewhere they let you school over the fences they use for BS comps and see how she goes. There are a few places I've been to where you can hire the affiliated jumps and have a play. Maybe if you asked nicely enough they'd leave them out the way they were jumped on the day of the show? Don't know if that's possible or not but maybe worth asking?
 
TBH I would have thought that this was a veterinary decision. The question is, is she physically capable of jumping or in your vet's opinion would jumping to BS standard be detrimental to her health. You do not have to jump her (possibly to destruction) to prove or disprove this. As far as I understand it (and I am certainly no expert) if she is deemed not to be able to jump to the required standard, this does not stop you jumping her to a lower standard after your claim has been settled.
Hope you get it sorted out and get to jump her again yourself soon, if that's your plan.
 
Thank you for your thoughts :D

In no order whatsoever....:

Vets - Dizz was with Sue Dyson at the AHT. She says that some horses with this issue go on to jump fine, no issue; some horses don't. No telling which is which. So, the only way we'll know is if we try :)

D1 riding during the week - it would be up to the professional sj thought. We'd have him see D1 ride and jump Dizz. If he were happy to take Dizz on, but not want anyone else riding her, other than exercising during the week, then that's what we'd go with :)

Insurance - can't remember the ins and outs as the conversation took place some time ago, but the general gist was that we have until the end of this December to claim LOU.

Classes - we know that Dizz can jump the lower heights/classes :). I bought her because I wanted to move up the ranks with her - what we're trying to find out is, can she cope with jumping a course at height built to BS spec., not just once or twice, but a few times (to take in as many different jumps, etc. as possible).

Hope I've covered everything!
 
Oh, I see :) Silly me.

I know someone who'd jump her for you if you were closer and be happy for her to just jump at weekends so I don't suppose it's out of the question that your pro would be happy with that. My friend is sort of semi pro ish though so I suppose maybe that makes a difference.

I hope you find a solution though :)
 
I think because of your time limit it would probably be best getting the professional (or trainer) to jump her. After Dec once you know D1 can always start jumping her then.
If the only way you are going to know is to try the you need to get her out jumping decent courses (1m+) by December. The SJ would give her the best chance of getting there.
Fingers crossed that next you can be out there having a go.
 
Thank you :D. Instructor knows her well (she can be a bit special lol), and thinks this guy would suit, but thank you for the thought, it's much appreciated :D

I think you've summed it up beautifully succinctly MG :D.



I'll post updates and pics as we go :D :D

(Just hope the showjumper can cope with the long mane and the name, The Dizzy Blonde :D).
 
MrsMozart said:
Thank you :D. Instructor knows her well (she can be a bit special lol), and thinks this guy would suit, but thank you for the thought, it's much appreciated :D

I think you've summed it up beautifully succinctly MG :D.



I'll post updates and pics as we go :D :D

(Just hope the showjumper can cope with the long mane and the name, The Dizzy Blonde :D).
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OH GOD... The name would not be a problem...But the mane would have to go if it were us hahaha or be plaited :)

xx
 
Hello MrsM,
IMO, you need to consider one more issue here.
Essentially, to get Dizz jumping 1.10 this year will be rushing her a bit, it's going to be an intensive course anyways.
So, what will happen, or more to the point, how will you feel about it, if Dizzy either spectacularly breaks in the process or throws the towel in badly?
 
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