Need to find a home for 8 month old pyrenean

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Firstly, I am not a breeder. Both parents are now neutered. But Bonnie is the result of an accidental breeding and she was returned to me at the weekend for fighting with her sister. Problem is, her Mum is showing less and less patience with her and viciously attacked her this morning :( She does not take notice when her mum warns her by growling, and does not seem to realise she must move away. They are okay again now, but I am worried sick that the next time, it will not be okay. When I put her in the kennel on her own she cries and cries. She cannot come in the house because my two female terriers attack her. I am so upset for her. Her owners want me to sell her, but I really don't think I will be able to sell her very quickly and I have stressed to them that a good home is much more important than money. I thought I would be able to take my time as they were all playing and getting along together, but now it seems I may have very little time before they have to be separated continuously and she will be so unhappy.

If anyone knows of anyone who might be able to take on a pyrenean older puppy, please PM me. She is a lovely friendly dog but typically large breed puppy and into anything. She needs lots of things to chew on so that she does not chew on things she is not allowed. She is excellent with horses and other dogs, but due to her history with her sister, she would be better off with a male dog or as an only dog. This is her:

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CaveCanem said:
Sorry it hasn't worked out, mums and daughters/siblings can scrap horribly.

Have you asked around horsey contacts to see if anyone needs a yard dog?

Hope she gets sorted soon.
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Thanks. I am going to email all my pyrenean contacts that I have details for. She is a stunning dog. I wish I had had the foresight to see this problem coming!
 
s4sugar said:
Try here:- http://www.pmdc.org.uk/
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Thank you. Yes I actually got a dog from them many years ago. It may be what I need to do. The problem I am having is that the owners want me to advertise first to try to sell her and taking her to the rescue, they or I would actually have to pay a substantial donation.

I am going to try to sell her for a week, but then will have to offer her free to a good home. Trouble is, I wonder if they will believe me that I have got no money for her. :( They may think I have pocketed the money and just told them I gave her away. I am so stressed about all this. If I were the owners I would have just said 'please find her the best home you can, money is not important.' But he was just being so stern about the whole thing asking what I would advertise her for etc.
 
CaveCanem said:
It's really none of their business what you do with her, IMO. They lost all responsibility when they gave her back to you.
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This entirely, they should have sorted the problems they were having or sold her themselves, them being able to recoup costs is not your problem. presumably she was sold to them when she was a even cuter ball of fluff?
 
Advertise her thus-
8month old PMD bitch. Returned to breeder by owner who couldn't cope as is setting up a boarding kennels and wants me to sell her for him. Price is the cost of spaying at your local vet.
 
s4sugar said:
Advertise her thus-
8month old PMD bitch. Returned to breeder by owner who couldn't cope as is setting up a boarding kennels and wants me to sell her for him. Price is the cost of spaying at your local vet.
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This makes it sound a little like the dog is a pain in the a**. (No offence OP, I'm sure she's lovely!).
 
s4sugar said:
Advertise her thus-
8month old PMD bitch. Returned to breeder by owner who couldn't cope as is setting up a boarding kennels and wants me to sell her for him. Price is the cost of spaying at your local vet.
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HaHa

Not a great advert for someone who wants to set up a boarding kennels, I'd steer well clear with an attitude like his.
 
Yes, so how does a boarding kennel owner cope with a difficult or bolshy dog (I don't think scrapping siblings are any way unusual by the way), wouldn't be getting my business, anyway!!
 
CaveCanem said:
It's really none of their business what you do with her, IMO. They lost all responsibility when they gave her back to you.
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Stencilface said:
This entirely, they should have sorted the problems they were having or sold her themselves, them being able to recoup costs is not your problem. presumably she was sold to them when she was a even cuter ball of fluff?
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The husband gave me a hard time on the phone saying he had done some research and the PMDs were renowned for fighting to the death if they are two female littermates and that I should have known this and not sold them two girls. Since then, I have done my own research and as hard as I try, I cannot find this info anywhere. I am not a breeder, just a loving pet owner. They are breeders themselves and so should know more than me! I have two JRT sisters from the same litter and they may fall out occasionally, but never go anywhere without the other. My parents also have two sisters from the same litter who are absolutely fine. I know another couple of PMD owners who have sisters in the house without a problem. But yes, since this has happened, I do realise that siblings are a high risk for squabbles.

s4sugar said:
Advertise her thus-
8month old PMD bitch. Returned to breeder by owner who couldn't cope as is setting up a boarding kennels and wants me to sell her for him. Price is the cost of spaying at your local vet.
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Apparently they tell me they are going to get a dog puppy and breed now. :(

FreddiesGal said:
This makes it sound a little like the dog is a pain in the a**. (No offence OP, I'm sure she's lovely!).
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Actually, it was obvious from the first day she arrived that she has had absolutely no discipline. I have had to be really strict with her, but she's a fast learner. I only have to say a! a! and she stops what she's doing. She knows now she is not allowed past the threshold of the stables when I'm mucking out. But she has had all of my haylage nets out, chewed up one of my £30 trickle nets, had two headcollars... She is getting better by the day though. There was a huge contrast with one of her other littermates, a dog, who I babysat for a couple of days here. He was the most obedient, well behaved dog and didn't touch a thing he wasn't given.
 
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CaveCanem said:
Yes, so how does a boarding kennel owner cope with a difficult or bolshy dog (I don't think scrapping siblings are any way unusual by the way), wouldn't be getting my business, anyway!!
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I am not sure if they are actually going to do boarding kennels. I think they have bought the place to expand their breeding.
 
Well, they sound absolutely delightful, you live and learn!!!

Maybe he should have done such research before he bought the pups. And starting a breeding operation with that outlook/lack of knowledge, brilliant!!
Did you put any breeding restrictions on the pups? Doesn't sound like a great life for the one they did keep if they are already seeing her as a cash cow at eight months old, from a whoops litter, completely unproven, with no health tests.
 
Probably a good idea to give the Pyrenean club a heads up.

Not registration so no endorsements. Did you give a pedigree? They will just stick "Dog Lovers" {PUKE} papers on her or cross her with a poodle for quick sale puppies.
 
CaveCanem said:
Well, they sound absolutely delightful, you live and learn!!!

Maybe he should have done such research before he bought the pups. And starting a breeding operation with that outlook/lack of knowledge, brilliant!!
Did you put any breeding restrictions on the pups? Doesn't sound like a great life for the one they did keep if they are already seeing her as a cash cow at eight months old, from a whoops litter, completely unproven, with no health tests.
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I sold them as pet quality without papers, and priced accordingly. I said the breeding was unplanned and therefore they were not suitable for breeding or showing and were to be pets only. I thought the lack of papers would prevent this. :o As I say, I am not a breeder. And after this experience, never want to be. Obviously, if I was a breeder then I would learn from the experience, not sell littermates and provide a clause preventing the breeding. Feel a right dope. :o
 
s4sugar said:
Probably a good idea to give the Pyrenean club a heads up.

Not registration so no endorsements. Did you give a pedigree? They will just stick "Dog Lovers" {PUKE} papers on her or cross her with a poodle for quick sale puppies.
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No, they are not KC registered, and I did not give out the pedigree.
 
No one is perfect, our first litter was a whoopsie as well, my mother arrived home and found a litter of puppies one day :o having said that both parents were hipscored and one did go on to be quite succesful in the showring (although he did end up taking his own father's eye out :o)

But at least you know now and at least one of the girlies is safe and at least you actually care.

It's one of the reasons I wouldn't breed, I'd end up keeping them all to prevent something like this happening :(
 
Please plese do not offer your dog for sale on one of the online pet ads even more important as she is female and unspayed as she will be sought by someone for breeding. Thinking of puppy farm situation.

Why not contact the pyrenean breed club who have a rescue section who will seek the correct knowledgable home for her http://www.pmdc.org.uk/
You could even offer to pay for her to be spayed when the time is right to show some wilingness on your behalf. I notice they have just 2 pyreneans in their rescue section for rehoming. There are other pyre breed rescues as well in the UK far better to choose a breed specific rescue for a more specialist breed than a general rescue as a knowledgable home will be found for her, which hopefully will be her final home.
 
puppyalert said:
Please plese do not offer your dog for sale on one of the online pet ads even more important as she is female and unspayed as she will be sought by someone for breeding. Thinking of puppy farm situation.

Why not contact the pyrenean breed club who have a rescue section who will seek the correct knowledgable home for her http://www.pmdc.org.uk/
You could even offer to pay for her to be spayed when the time is right to show some wilingness on your behalf. I notice they have just 2 pyreneans in their rescue section for rehoming. There are other pyre breed rescues as well in the UK far better to choose a breed specific rescue for a more specialist breed than a general rescue as a knowledgable home will be found for her, which hopefully will be her final home.
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Thanks. I have emailed the owner yesterday stating that I will give it a week or two trying to sell her and then if a good home does not turn up, I will try to find her the best home possible for free, and that if that was not acceptable then they would have to take her back and sell her themselves. They haven't anwered me and so I don't know if they have received it or not, but at least I have a record that I have informed them of my intentions.Touch wood things have been more settled today and there have been no tense moments. I have sussed the feeding out I think and removed all the bowls (food was the cause of the attack yesterday) and I am feeding the dried food scattered in tiny piles over the yard. They seemed to enjoy searching it out and there were no bowls to take possession of. Not ideal, but I tried taking them out to be fed separately in the kennel and run and not one of them would touch their food :(.
 
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