Needing a colour expert please

[SeptemberRain]

This may seem silly but I'm having trouble identifying what colour my horse actually is because of a white belly marking. I'm not keen to post a picture on an open forum but is there a colour expert out there willing to let me email them a photo and help me out please? Thanks

 

[Wagtail]

Your horse would be classed as coloured. So depending on base colour and modifying gene (eg. sabino or tobiano) could be classed as bay tobiano, bay sabino, chestnut tobiano etc. It is most likely to be sabino if the only white on the body is on the belly as tobiano tends to put white on the top of the horse first.

 

[SeptemberRain]

Oh goodness. Thank you for your reply. He's written as bay on his passport but it's a very basic one. But he has a white belly splodge, 3 white legs and I think what's classed as a star and wide stripe on his face. Would just be interesting to know as I'd like to show and don't quite know where to put him.

 

[SeptemberRain]

Bump

 

[s4sugar]

Bay with 3 white legs & a belly splodge & star & stripe.
The sploge could be from splash, sabino or frame but frame is unlikely.
Just a belly splodge would not not make him eligable for coloured classes.

 

[SeptemberRain]

Thank you. I think he'd look really out of place in a coloured class so I'm quite pleased about that.

 

[Rosiejazzandpia]

This may be incorrect but I remember reading somewhere that to be classed as coloured a horse had to have a patch of white on its sides (so not under it's belly if you get me) and the patch had to be a minimum of 15cm wide.
Sorry if thats wrong, I read a lot and seem to retain random little facts like that

 

[SeptemberRain]

Lovely thank you. So is there such thing as a bay horse with a white splodge or would it have to have another name such as bay sabino?

 

[s4sugar]

Bay with a belly patch is not uncommon.

 

[SeptemberRain]

Thank you

 

[Queenbee]

No Maria you're not going around the bend, I've read that too.

 

[Rosiejazzandpia]

No Maria you're not going around the bend, I've read that too.

Oh good, thank you

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Thought bays had to have dark points? White legs generally denote tobiano but with no white over the withers or dock, it's not...?

 

[twobearsarthur]

http://www.bspaonline.com/pdf/booklets/colours-booklet-2008.pdf

This might interest you.
If your horse also has white ticking around the flanks. Could possibly be the Sabino gene.
The criteria for being a coloured is also in the link.

 

[Spring Feather]

Thought bays had to have dark points?

I have a few bay sabinos. They have black points however they still have tall white stockings, white facial markings including under the lip.

OP Mine would not be eligible for coloured classes as they're not coloured.

 

[apachediamond]

Sorry to jump on your post OP, J is passported as Skewbald, according to BSPA would he be eligible for coloured classes?

Excuse the mud, he does have 4 white legs

 

[SeptemberRain]

http://www.bspaonline.com/pdf/booklets/colours-booklet-2008.pdf

This might interest you.
If your horse also has white ticking around the flanks. Could possibly be the Sabino gene.
The criteria for being a coloured is also in the link.

Thank you that's really interesting. I'm still not really any the wiser what he'd be classed at but after having a really good look at him today I noticed he's got some white spots on his chin. They are hard to see because of his pink bottom lip.

 

[twobearsarthur]

Sorry to jump on your post OP, J is passported as Skewbald, according to BSPA would he be eligible for coloured classes?

Excuse the mud, he does have 4 white legs

Yep he's eligible for coloured classes

 

[Wagtail]

We have a horse at our yard that is chestnut with a small white patch on her stomach and 3 white stockings. She is passported as coloured. But she looks chestnut. Definitely chestnut sabino.

 

[apachediamond]

Yep he's eligible for coloured classes

Thanks