putasocinit
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Any good news on this thread yet
Neglect and welfare concerns - Not sure what to do ?
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cambrica
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Sorry it's been one of those days where I haven't stopped since 6.30 this morning!
Yes I have emailed the WHW and attached the photo's. I know they prefer for me to phone but their offices are now closed till Monday and I really think the photo's explain how bad they are better than I can.
I will follow up with a call on Monday so fingers crossed they will be able to do something although I'm not sure what!
The burrs really are causing a huge amount of discomfort, especially the little boy on the last photo. He kept tossing his head up and down, one minute the matted forlock would stick right up in the air, then fall forward, its driving him mad
I am going to stop by again tomorrow as the skewbald foal is playing on my mind, he really didn't look that well.
I will email the local paper as I know they published the last tragic story. The problem is I would also hate for them to be moved somewhere out of site. The one blessing where they are is that they are very visible to a large amount of the general public and I know the office staff at Browns are keeping a close watch on them.
Just really sad because which ever way you look at it they do not deserve living such an uncomfortable life. I just hope it hasn't attracted flies to lay eggs or something similar.
One of the mares had a large number of small, round, bald raised legions on her chest. I'm not sure if its ringworm, looks similar to small round sarcoids? Will try and get a pic of her.
PollyP99
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Sorry it's been one of those days where I haven't stopped since 6.30 this morning!
Yes I have emailed the WHW and attached the photo's. I know they prefer for me to phone but their offices are now closed till Monday and I really think the photo's explain how bad they are better than I can.
I will follow up with a call on Monday so fingers crossed they will be able to do something although I'm not sure what!
The burrs really are causing a huge amount of discomfort, especially the little boy on the last photo. He kept tossing his head up and down, one minute the matted forlock would stick right up in the air, then fall forward, its driving him mad
I am going to stop by again tomorrow as the skewbald foal is playing on my mind, he really didn't look that well.
I will email the local paper as I know they published the last tragic story. The problem is I would also hate for them to be moved somewhere out of site. The one blessing where they are is that they are very visible to a large amount of the general public and I know the office staff at Browns are keeping a close watch on them.
Just really sad because which ever way you look at it they do not deserve living such an uncomfortable life. I just hope it hasn't attracted flies to lay eggs or something similar.
One of the mares had a large number of small, round, bald raised legions on her chest. I'm not sure if its ringworm, looks similar to small round sarcoids? Will try and get a pic of her.
Feel for you, would hate to have this nearby, I will think about them tonight I know it will worry me despite not seeing it. You are doing what you can, take some comfort from that. I like the baby oil idea, cheap and easy to apply, worth a go?
cambrica
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I could give it a go but a couple are quite wary and I really think they are too far gone. Their feathers are also completely knotted up. I remember by old cob mare getting just one burr in her feathers and it drove her mad, stamping her feet until I got it out!
Like I said someone had chopped off the mane of one of the male horses and left it by the gate, when I saw it I though it was something dead
cambrica
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An Update:
I heard from the WHW Monday and the RSPCA today. Both societies are very aware of the situation with the ponies and are keeping a close check on them. The girl from the RSPCA says they try and check on them once a week. Also that they are receiving a very large number of calls so it seems there are many people concerned.
Unfortunately there is nothing either of them can do regarding the burrs as although a serious irritation to them they are not a welfare issue Both are still trying to track down the owner!
I heard from the WHW Monday and the RSPCA today. Both societies are very aware of the situation with the ponies and are keeping a close check on them. The girl from the RSPCA says they try and check on them once a week. Also that they are receiving a very large number of calls so it seems there are many people concerned.
Unfortunately there is nothing either of them can do regarding the burrs as although a serious irritation to them they are not a welfare issue
Both are still trying to track down the owner!Carrots&Mints
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Please could I ask a question some of you might think is really stupid... but what causes burrs?
vickyb
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They are from burdock plants - they are the seed capsules I think. My long haired dog has trouble with them sometimes as well. Apparetly the person who invented Velcro got the idea from examining burs! Burdock usually grows in company with docks and other weeds. Well maintained pasture should not have any, but very common on more scrubby pasture.
putasocinit
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What an easy answer for them, the burrs are not a welfare issue, well i think they are, in the sense of them being uncomfortable, the horses are not able to use their mane and tail for their correct function, what insects are living in the burrs, spiders, maybe snakes, very disappointed with the whw and rspca
competitiondiva
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Snakes??? really!!!?? :O
To remove the horses a vet must certify they are suffering or likely to suffer.... If you don't agree with the RSPCA or WHW. Have a vet attend yourself and ask them. Or speak to one over the phone and ask..... If they advise they would certify that the animal is suffering or likely to suffer, have them call the authorities....
putasocinit
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Ofcourse there a not snakes, i was making a sick attempt at emphasing how terrible it must be for them with their manes and tails and fetlock feathers in the state they are in. As they are not in my area and i know nothing other than what we have heard and seen in pics, i cant telephone my vet.
You would just like to think the authorities would be able to do a bit more. Yes i was being very very hopeful, i do donate large amounts yearly to both charities so like every other person who donates you hope to see something good from your donation. And yes before i get shouted down i am aware of all the good they do without them, what would helpless animals do, but you just hope dont you that they can help another and another.
Lets hope these lot dont end up suffering and get the help they need when they need it.
You would just like to think the authorities would be able to do a bit more. Yes i was being very very hopeful, i do donate large amounts yearly to both charities so like every other person who donates you hope to see something good from your donation. And yes before i get shouted down i am aware of all the good they do without them, what would helpless animals do, but you just hope dont you that they can help another and another.
Lets hope these lot dont end up suffering and get the help they need when they need it.
Goldenstar
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I think you could argue in court that the burrs falls into the category of failure to provide proper care if says they prevented them lifting their tail to poo.
I was a witness in a case where someone was banned for a having a pony with lice, which is similar but they had a string of convictions and I think the magistrates had had enough.
I do think if you could find an owner you could have a pop at them for that if you had the resource and the money .
But it's a difficult one they are not thin but clearly not in a good situation the issue is there just a unstoppable tide of these borderline types it's a nightmare.
I was a witness in a case where someone was banned for a having a pony with lice, which is similar but they had a string of convictions and I think the magistrates had had enough.
I do think if you could find an owner you could have a pop at them for that if you had the resource and the money .
But it's a difficult one they are not thin but clearly not in a good situation the issue is there just a unstoppable tide of these borderline types it's a nightmare.