Neue Schule Verbidend Bit Burn??

Martin79 said:
The compositions of Salox have not changed since 2007 so the levels and materials are still the same!! So what would she react to exactly if everything is the same?

The Salox is not the problem hence why I have no issue with other NS bits!! Thank you
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What people are trying (and failing) to explain to you, is that people, horses and other animals can develop an allergy to something they have never had a problem with in the past. I for example took the NSAI Naproxen for back pain for over five years without problem. Then one day I had a violent allergic reaction to it and ended up in hospital. Didn't suspect it so took it again once back home and had an anaphylactic reaction cue being rushed to hospital again. Now I am not able to take any NSAI. So I had no problem and then severe problem. Same could be true of your horse.
 
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Ahhh right ho, sorry... I can see things very clearly now. It is quite obvious to me why you didn't question your vet, and why you didn't think it was a reaction or an allergy that had just developed. I mean, people and animals don't just develop a reaction to something that's been around - unchanged for years, do they. DO THEY??!! Nope? Silly silly me!

I'm out of this thread, as I said, clear to me why you didn't come to a rational intelligent assumption.
 
What suggestions haven't been sensible exactly?

I could understand the frustration if folk where claiming some mysterious creature turned up in the night and harmed your horse. All I see is concerned people making suggestions that could be investigated or looked into.

All suggestions dismissed as you trust your vet, so why ask? Surely your vet should be sorting this out if they are as good as you seem to think they are.
 
That's a relief. I was a bit (ha!) concerned about NS, manufacturing standards and possibly poor customer service.
Now I realise they were probably just a little quicker off the mark with their assessment of the situation than we were!
 
Martin79 said:
Something sensible!
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Your horse is trying to tell you she wants a hackamore for Christmas? Your horse snuck out last night, got drunk and had a tongue tattoo done in exactly the shape of her bit? Your horse had been eating copious amounts of sour sweets and they made her tongue sore? Too much necking over the fence with a fit gelding she fancies? The bit supplier purposefully wiped the bit in bleach before sending it to you? Any of these works for you?
 
My god OP, that is terrible!

Ive bought a couple of bits from Neue Schule and have always found their customer service really good.

The problem is that if the item was bought from the bit bank then its could be described as 2nd hand (as you can try before you buy) so they might be able to weasel their way out of responsibility. (Not saying its right!)

Hope you get it your money bank and that your horses injuries are not too severe. Quite scary how much damage can be done in areas we cannot always see. My horse had a sore mouth caused by a bit which was too thick for her mouth, which blows up the theory held by many that thicker bits are milder!
 
el_Snowflakes said:
My god OP, that is terrible!

Ive bought a couple of bits from Neue Schule and have always found their customer service really good.

The problem is that if the item was bought from the bit bank then its could be described as 2nd hand (as you can try before you buy) so they might be able to weasel their way out of responsibility. (Not saying its right!)

Hope you get it your money bank and that your horses injuries are not too severe. Quite scary how much damage can be done in areas we cannot always see. My horse had a sore mouth caused by a bit which was too thick for her mouth, which blows up the theory held by many that thicker bits are milder!
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I've never believed that. Choosing bits is even more complex than fitting a saddle IMO...size and shape of mouth/bars/tongue can easily mean what is mild for one horse is harsh for another.

I don't think NS should be responsible for this if it is the bit unless it could be proven that it was something inherently in the salox that shouldn't be there. A manufacturer can't be responsible for one horses allergic reaction. I think it far more likely that the bit has been poorly cleaned/polished though and that is most certainly not their fault.

I too have always found their customer service to be fantastic and to be honest, if the OP spoke to them they way they have reacted to some of the suggestions on here, I would understand them being a bit off.

It's a shame, the thread is a great reminder to us all that not all issues can be easily seen and to check our horses everywhere.
 
ester said:
Yup I'll start pulling Frank's tongue out as well as his willy.......................
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I'm sure he'll be most impressed.

It is amazing what horses put up with though. The OP's horse must be an absolute star bless it and I am very happy that the OP discovered this as it's just horrible. A lucky horse to have an owner that cares enough to check.
 
OP,

Out of interest what sort of answer were you looking for?

I think the logical and rational answer is that sadly the bit was cleaned with something horrid (bleach or similar) that has caused this issue.

A- The bit was not supplied by NS direct so they are unable to comment without seeing it- perfectly logical i'm afraid.
B- Have you tried your other bits since this issue that she has been fine with- just so we can isolate that it is THIS NS bit and not ALL NS bits.

I'm very pleased your horse is fine in a rubber bit and that no lasting damage has occurred, however i dont see that getting rude is helping here.
Remember this is a forum you will get other peoples views if you post!
 
It is worth noting that not all bits bought from the bit bank are brand new. Many, perhaps even most, have been tried and sent back. I got my Sprenger demi anky bradoon from there many years ago and it had slight scratches. I could tell it had been used before, but I was happy with it because I had been looking for a bit for my mare for two years and she was finally happy in one. So I did not quibble with the fact that I had paid full price for a bit that had actually been used. The bit is still going strong 12 years later and has been borrowed by several horses since.

But with this in mind, it is very possible that someone tried the OPs bit and returned it as unsuitable to the bit bank and possibly cleaned it with something unsuitable beforehand.
 
Martin79 said:
She is now in a rubber snaffle and going beautifully!
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just wondered how long it is since this happened? as you seem to suggest that this is recent but you are now riding your horse again - i would imagine it would take a while for a mark like that to go and that putting any bit in, rubber or otherwise, would be quite uncomfortable to say the least?
 
Wagtail said:
What people are trying (and failing) to explain to you, is that people, horses and other animals can develop an allergy to something they have never had a problem with in the past. I for example took the NSAI Naproxen for back pain for over five years without problem. Then one day I had a violent allergic reaction to it and ended up in hospital. Didn't suspect it so took it again once back home and had an anaphylactic reaction cue being rushed to hospital again. Now I am not able to take any NSAI. So I had no problem and then severe problem. Same could be true of your horse.
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I had the same with ibuprofen

Queenbee said:
I think Norty fairies have been inside her mouth attacking her tongue with the spikey ends of their wands.
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perfect answer :)
 
soulfull said:
I had the same with ibuprofen
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It's just awful, isn't it. The second time it happened I looked like the elephant man as every bit of me swelled up and it was the most agony I have ever experienced in my life. I would much rather go through child birth than that.
 
Poor horse :-(
Sorry to be naive, when you say 'bit bank', do you mean it is second hand? My thoughts are allergy to the metal or could have been contracted by a previous horse?? Just looking at all the options...
Looks like a burn mark, i'm sure you don't hang onto the reins to that extent!
 
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