Never met one of these before

Some daft tart on beemer has scared ***** out me this morning.
Main village road has been closed so everyone has to take detour around really narrow country lane with high banks and quite overgrown hedges. There is a nasty corner on the lane with tall hedge on one (mine) side and *sort of* passing place on the other which is soil (and its hammering down today) and a bit on a slope. I have been crawling around that corner knowing that shogun is a ******* to stop catching muddy surface with one side when bloody woman hurled around the corner right on the middle of the lane. Im afraid to say that daughter expanded her vocabulary with quite a few expletives.
 
In HGA's defence, and something that seems to have not been picked up, is that she wasn't pulling a horse trailer but a much smaller trailer (possibly only a 2 wheeler) that you can't see in your rearview mirror. They do tend to jackknife very quickly because you don't see it wavering offcourse until it suddenly appears in one of your mirrors. I can reverse a horse trailer into any gap, but I open my back door before reversing my little trailer.
 
Well she did say it was a large box trailer, presumably one large enough to fit jumps in. I did my test with one of those so they are generally quite well behaved.
 
Our old little 'tip' trailer it was easier to unhitch and push back down the driveway (long, straight) :D
 
9tails said:
In HGA's defence, and something that seems to have not been picked up, is that she wasn't pulling a horse trailer but a much smaller trailer (possibly only a 2 wheeler) that you can't see in your rearview mirror. They do tend to jackknife very quickly because you don't see it wavering offcourse until it suddenly appears in one of your mirrors. I can reverse a horse trailer into any gap, but I open my back door before reversing my little trailer.
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Thank you

I am only returning to give a few measurements

My guess is most have ever sat in a Terrano long wheeled base 7 seater Those who have know

Nissan Terrano long wheeled base car is a 7 seater as per photo I sent you 9tails can you see the trailer from the drivers seat ? it is attached to my car albeit in it's shed. The driver seat to the back of the car is 8 ft 75


The trailer I borrowed so going on owners measurement which it appears to have a discrepancy about it so went out and measured it
So I give facts not guessing now the trailer is 5ft wide including the wheel arches without the wheel arches which measure 9 inches each one makes the actual trailer is 3ft 5, the length of the trailer is 7ft


The trailer is 2 ft 6 high from ground to the top, The car measures from the ground to above the wheel where the base of the rear windscreen is 4ft 6 so there is 2ft between the top of the trailer to the top of the spare wheel which sits up of the windscreen so obscuring where the trailer would be.
So with 2ft difference from the top of the trailer to the eye line of the driver, please tell me how I see the trailer which is 8ft 7.5 away?? also the trailer is 1 1/2 ft narrower than the car.


So in reality 9tails the trailer I used is the same size as yours. Caravans and horse trailers are easy to maneuver (done both) (and reverse my caravan with my left hand drive American car into very tight spots) as you see them in your mirrors but when the trailer is lower by 2 ft and narrower than the car it is not so easy.
Maybe I could have handled it differently, but I remained polite and courteous which this old lady did not.

Just to add when someone opens their door about 6ft in front of you while your traveling at 30mph in a 26ft horsebox with horses on that is what I meant by taking someones door off. The police were the doing speed traps on this day and saw everything. I got a that was quick reaction on your part" from the two police officers despite the horses stumbling they were fine.


In future I will refrain from posting any personal threads/posts.
 
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FfionWinnie said:
Tsk. Some people shouldn't be allowed on the road!!!

Of course I mean you, not her.

If you "nearly took her door off" you were travelling too fast and too close to a potential hazard. You "screamed at her" to use the pavement well, how classy are you. As far as I am aware the pavement is for walking on not parking on.

Lastly if you can't reverse a trailer without jackknifing it, you shouldn't be towing.

What a liability.
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Off ignore for a minute.

How rude and nasty are you!



Read my post above, I was traveling 30mph in a 26ft horsebox with horses and this mother opened the door at 6ft in front of me in my path 7 1/2 ton truck and you really think she is sensible opening the door and getting her children out in flowing traffic??. ( caught on dash cam) I told her to use the pavement to get her kids out not off load them onto the road, she was trying to get the children out onto the road in front as it turned out a police speed trap. Which they saw nuff said

You try reversing a light weight trailer which cannot be seen from the drivers view or in the side mirrors unless the trailer starts to drift to one side and reversing down hill. Gosh there are really some spiteful, rude people on this forum
 
The trailer measurements are completely irrelevant. On the one hand you are boasting about what a fantastic driver you are and how you can reverse this trailer into a small garage every day, ob the other hand you can't reverse it a few yards without jackknifing it. Make your mind up.

And as for your rant about the woman who opened her car door...why would you be driving at such speeds in a large vehicle so close to a school? Yet again you have proved yourself to be a rude, obnoxious, aggressive driver.
 
JennBags said:
The trailer measurements are completely irrelevant. On the one hand you are boasting about what a fantastic driver you are and how you can reverse this trailer into a small garage every day, ob the other hand you can't reverse it a few yards without jackknifing it. Make your mind up.

And as for your rant about the woman who opened her car door...why would you be driving at such speeds in a large vehicle so close to a school? Yet again you have proved yourself to be a rude, obnoxious, aggressive driver.
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You do not know the situation - you are basing it on what you want too, the police were there at the top of the hill where the speed trap was, a 7.5 ton fully laiden coming up a steep hill is struggling

So you assume I used the car to park the livery trailer in did you ??? lol It is not used every day FYI


You know what I don't have to listen to any more spiteful rude insults about me and too me.

I will not return to this thread as it is pointless trying to have a civil conversation here due to the biotching and mud throwing, there is more polite ways to discuss this incident too which you obviously are not one who can without being rude to me.

I do not have to listen to your returning insults about me or my life.
 
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I changed the settings to private and going to delete them sorry.
It was causing the thread to get too heated

Hopefully H&H will lock this thread now as there is no more constructive things that can come out of it now.
 
HGA-12 said:
Because detachable ones that I have seen and Have one on my Pontiac still leaves the metal rod visible underneath for the tow bar bit to slide into AND you still need electric hook up which is visible
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That's not correct. My detachable tow bar, once detached can't be seen, the electrics fold up behind the bumper, and my 4x4 is immaculate as I don't like dirty cars. I get it cleaned every week.

Loving the generalisations you make.
 
HGA-12 said:
Off ignore for a minute.

How rude and nasty are you!

You try reversing a light weight trailer which cannot be seen from the drivers view or in the side mirrors unless the trailer starts to drift to one side and reversing down hill. Gosh there are really some spiteful, rude people on this forum
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Well on balance I think a lot less rude and no where near as nasty as you, would be the answer here. Your threads descend into this because you only want people who agree with you to reply, and you insult anyone who does not. What you have posted is an embarrassment and shows your sense of arrogance and entitlement. This lady you met may be just as bad as you, but she's no worse as proven by your own footage.

I reverse trailers like that all the time. If you can't, you shouldn't have been towing on a road with it. Furthermore, you had a passenger who could have acted as a banksman if necessary.

I think you will find the driver who hits the door flung open in front of them, would be the one at fault, because to hit it, you would be travelling too fast and too close. The fact you are in a large vehicle with animals on, makes you even more of a liability if that is the speed you think is acceptable to pass a school at drop off time. It is the driver's responsibility to drive to the road and conditions and being in a large horse lorry, would be one of those conditions where you should slow down.

I'm sure when your horse was recently having a melt down on the road for whatever reason, you wouldn't have appreciated people steaming past you, shouting abuse, would you.
 
Isn't it called reading the road well ahead, particularly in areas such as schools etc.
I tend to agree with Ffion, I don't think the lady was great either but you were just as bad, the only one who was impeccably behaved and reasonable was the cyclist :D.

Next time someone disagrees with me I am not going to clarify the point with reasoned argument but stamp my feet, call everyone mean and flounce :p
 
A few years ago I was on my way to a riding club lesson, a bit late as usual and met a trailer leaving the lesson before mine on the single track road to the venue. She only had to reverse about 10m whereas I would have to go back about 100m. She got out of the car and very apologetically said she couldn't reverse the trailer and would I do it for her. I got in and went back the short distance, all the while muttering to myself about how you shouldn't have a trailer if you can't bloody reverse it etc.

The next day I bumped into her in Tesco and after exchanging a few pleasantries, she said to me, "Did you realise xxxx was in the car yesterday. He said you didn't say hello and thought it was a bit odd as you're normally so friendly."

The worst part is the to this day I cannot for the life of me remember if I actually said those things out loud or was just thinking them :o It wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't chair of my riding club :eek:
 
Those who can't reverse are (or were) not confined to narrow country lanes, I'm sorry to say.
Years back Burlington Rd Bournemouth was a one way road heading towards Beale's posh department store in town. Then the council changed the one way system!
After the change some 30% of the drivers missed the No Entry signs and carried on as usual. Half way along they suddenly realised their mistake! This road is wide enough for double deckers to have a series of stops, plus moving traffic, and so is 3 lane width!Even there some could not reverse!

Some attempted to go down the up ramp of an underground car park in the vain hope that driving round in a circle would be possible, others simply stopped and asked the bus drivers to turn their cars around for them! In fact I think one or two even asked the policemen for help, and got it!
 
You did say in your first post that you are experienced at reversing trailers and could even win in a speed contest. Yet in the video you said you couldn't reverse. Bit of conflicting information there.

Maybe just get some practice with this smaller one if you aren't good with it. No harm in that.
 
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