New horse declared loss of use due to old injury

Just a thought but have you been in touch with previous owners? Are they being agressive about it? If it was me I'd 100% take the horse back.
 
No haven't been in contact with them.
Was going to wait until bloods are back and insurance tell me what they insist I do and then contact her via a solicitor with a synopsis.
They text each week for the first few weeks then one day she text and the pony had been refusing to jump point blank at a show. I told them this me never heard again from them! That's when my alarm bells rang as I thought pony doesn't seem right and the fact she never replied ( she had messaged me weekly till this point) I just thought it looked very dodgy!!
 
'A horse is not eligible to compete when:
• It has an open tracheotomy (tubed);
• A limb, or part of a limb, is hyposensitive or hypersensitive (both of which shall
constitute “abnormal limb sensivity”). Hypersensitive limbs have an excessive
or abnormal reaction to palpation. Hyposensitive limbs include any alteration
in sensitivity induced by a neurectomy or chemical desensitisation for as long
as the alteration in sensitivity persists.
• Kinesio-taping or patches are used in any way.
'

Which is what I thought it said, what I have read in the past is that given that it is well understood that nerves regrow the 'as long as the alteration in sensitivity persists' bit is quite important, and immeasurable. It is not a blanket ban on denerved horses as some seem to have suggested, it is more complicated than that.

Thanks for the number GS, I didn't have time earlier to go and hunt it out :)
 
ester said:
'A horse is not eligible to compete when:
• It has an open tracheotomy (tubed);
• A limb, or part of a limb, is hyposensitive or hypersensitive (both of which shall
constitute “abnormal limb sensivity”). Hypersensitive limbs have an excessive
or abnormal reaction to palpation. Hyposensitive limbs include any alteration
in sensitivity induced by a neurectomy or chemical desensitisation for as long
as the alteration in sensitivity persists.
• Kinesio-taping or patches are used in any way.
'

Which is what I thought it said, what I have read in the past is that given that it is well understood that nerves regrow the 'as long as the alteration in sensitivity persists' bit is quite important, and immeasurable. It is not a blanket ban on denerved horses as some seem to have suggested, it is more complicated than that.

Thanks for the number GS, I didn't have time earlier to go and hunt it out :)
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I think the interpretation is open to debate, I think the wording has changed slightly in the last few years but I was involved with buying an event horse for a client that "failed" when my vet found the tiny scars from a bilateral neurectomy, I had thought the scar I had seen was a field injury the second one was only visible when the vet clipped the hair off, he clearly stated that it should not be bought to event and we walked away reluctantly, the owner had failed to inform the agent that it had been operated on so he was also in the dark about it and extremely embarrassed, the horse was readvertised as a hunter for half the price.
 
Yes, I guess that it is my point really, it is open to interpretation and is specifically not written as 'a horse with a PSD neurectomy cannot compete' which is what some seemed to be suggesting. Whether that is beause it is hard to detect or that in some cases reverses itself has never been clear but they could have written that if they wanted to and chose not to.
I can understand why one would fail a vetting if found.
 
The fact that a vet says the old owners were getting a pain relief drug does not prove that they were giving this drug to your pony. Suspicious yes but proof in law - no.
 
sport horse said:
The fact that a vet says the old owners were getting a pain relief drug does not prove that they were giving this drug to your pony. Suspicious yes but proof in law - no.
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Agreed! I also think it was wrong and definitely a breach of confidentiality for the vet to tell you this.
 
I think £8k for a FEI pony competing a high level in his discipline would have set off warning bells. That is incredibly cheap! Hope it gets sorted OP.
 
Nicnac said:
I think £8k for a FEI pony competing a high level in his discipline would have set off warning bells. That is incredibly cheap! Hope it gets sorted OP.
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I was thinking that too, had a brief look on horsequest and couldnt find anything similar for less than double that
 
I negotiated well! He was not advertised for this. Due to the location it meant a flight plus few hours drive! A big risk for any potential purchaser after so many wasted journies viewing ponies that are totally not as described!
 
That is ridiculously cheap and would have alarm bells ringing for me. I sell horses as an agent here in Ireland - that's the price of a nice riding horse ( low level competing), not a higher level competition horse.

Whenever a horse so experienced is sold cheap, you have to wonder why...
 
You say he wasn't advertised for this? For fei? What was he advertised for? I did think it seemed several times too cheap
 
Horse1979 said:
I negotiated well! He was not advertised for this. Due to the location it meant a flight plus few hours drive! A big risk for any potential purchaser after so many wasted journies viewing ponies that are totally not as described!
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I don't think you negotiated well, I think you were had.
Good FEI are mega bucks and don't usually get sold via open advert either.

That said, if they have been dishonest in the sale, even if you were naive, then I hope they are held accountable
 
I don't think you can blame the sellers yet.
You need to speak to them.
Find out if he had been injured.
Did you get his full vet history?
It's possible he was injured and they thought had made a full recovery, the fact that he passed a 5 stage vetting suggests they thought he had recovered, or didn't know he had been injured. Or he was drugged.

Very sad for you.
Is he insured?
 
Bloods all clear! I didn't expect that result I have to say.
Will now be contacting old owners - he definitely had several months off work before I brought him as I have now found out.
Very sad situation for pony-
 
Horse1979 said:
Bloods all clear! I didn't expect that result I have to say.
Will now be contacting old owners - he definitely had several months off work before I brought him as I have now found out.
Very sad situation for pony-
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Oh heck, you'll have a difficult fight now :( Good luck, keep us updated?
 
I wonder if they thought he would be up to work after a break. Poor pony, I would get a second opinion too, and see if it is as bad as you think.
 
Mature competition horse change in management sometimes it's all needs to tip the balance .
OP you will have a difficult of it now .
 
OH RATS!!! I read every one of these posts - 9 flippin pages - and I didn't find out what happened! OP - what was the outcome??
 
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