New horse wanted – don’t know where to start!

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I lost my fabulous 15hh 12 year old irish gelding last week, after a long illness. The last month was dire and it became increasingly obvious he wasn’t going to make it. I really want to get another horse as I’ve not ridden for 3 months now as my boy was out of action for quite a while, so I’ve had a fair bit of time to think about it all.

George was a super duper little horse but he was a handful. He was great for me, I am confident and I enjoyed the challenge. However..... I am getting married in October, and I’m not getting any younger (booo), and OH wants to have kids before too long. Despite not being horsey himself however, he is fully supportive of me getting another horse and actually suggested it before I had dared to raise the subject and is even prepared to help me fund it.

My Mum also rides and currently rides our 25 year old mare who was my sisters first pony many moons ago! The pony is super but is getting a bit wonky now and her ridden days are numbered as she’d show jumped her whole life and pretty stiff and creaky now. We will keep her going as long as she is keen and comfy.

I want to get another horse/pony that will suit me and Mum. A tall order, but I hope we can do it. I just don’t really know where to start looking. I’m 5ft 4, 8 stone, Mum is a bit smaller. I’m confident and fairly experienced, I’ve successfully brought on a few youngsters, evented and done a fair bit of dressage to elem level. Mum is nearly 60, and a happy hacker plus the odd in hand class at shows, but the pony she rides can be quite whizzy and strong so Mum is competent but not that confident in ability, basically she is better than she thinks she is but I don’t want her to have something more than she is happy with. The horse I lost was far too much for her though and she didn’t ride him.

Ideally we’d like something native so it can live out, but smart so we can show it, not to stocky and hairy though, but Mum is a sucker for a big mane! Can do decent dressage test with me, spons rides, hack out safely for my Mum. Must be a gelding, 14.1-15hh max. Budget is about £3k but can spend a bit more if needs be. Am I looking for something that doesn’t exist or do I need to consider spending lots more? I’ve never had to buy a horse with such a long list of musts. I usually buy something I like the look of and go from there, but those days are sadly over but my horsing days are not and I am happy to do a bit less and not event etc, if it means I still have my own horse to ride and have a bit of fun with. Where do I start?!
 
Sorry about the loss of your horse.

But to the rest of the thread... What about a nice Welsh? look fab with long manes, hardy enough to live out, and many have been known to event and you can pick them up for peanuts?
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Well - if you have a baby a horse will be both a hindrance and a life saver. You may struggle to find the time to ride. I seem to spend most of my free time 'doing' the horses rather than riding, but on the other hand I needed to get outside and do something 'non mumsy'. I think finding something to suit your mum will be key because if you do have sproglets it will your mum riding mostly til they go to school. Sounds to me like you need a nice little super cob, a sec D or a Highland. That way your mum can show and hack but you have brains and ability for dressage and jumping. It is funny to hear about your mums current pony. I too have inherited my daughters old pony, she was a BSJA pony and is now quite creaky - but still fizzy enough to have me off quite often - but I Lve her. You might find when your Mum is on a more 'suitable' mount her confidence will increase.
 
The one I lost was full connie, but just rather overheight! I have looked at connies but they are SOOOOOOO expensive for one that does everything I want because they are just so able they are priced for potential rather than current ability it seems.
Welsh sounds a good idea but where do you get a nice one in my price range?!
I quite fancy the idea of learning sidesaddle so a smart native that I can do that on would entertain me for years. I am happy not to event and do the speedy stuff anymore but I do need something to get my teeth into, so something with dressage potential that I can bring on a bit would be cool.

I honestly don't know where to start!
 
I have a standardbred type [pony trotter cross], so he is not a native, but is much tougher than any TB, he has good bone good feet and good paces, is a good ride, and has a nice pop, his brother is just the same type, 15.00 and seems pretty sensible, I have to admit my own boy is not perfect, [but I am only 65 so maybe I am a bit biased re behaviours], my instructor tell me he is a "good boy"
He is last to be rugged in winter and first to be unrugged in spring.
I think £3K is quite a lot in these days of austerity, you can school and know how to train a horse, so you don't need a press button horse.
 
Well - if you have a baby a horse will be both a hindrance and a life saver. You may struggle to find the time to ride. I seem to spend most of my free time 'doing' the horses rather than riding, but on the other hand I needed to get outside and do something 'non mumsy'. I think finding something to suit your mum will be key because if you do have sproglets it will your mum riding mostly til they go to school. Sounds to me like you need a nice little super cob, a sec D or a Highland. That way your mum can show and hack but you have brains and ability for dressage and jumping. It is funny to hear about your mums current pony. I too have inherited my daughters old pony, she was a BSJA pony and is now quite creaky - but still fizzy enough to have me off quite often - but I Lve her. You might find when your Mum is on a more 'suitable' mount her confidence will increase.

I agree totally if OH and Mum were not behind me I'd probably be hanging up my boots, or just scrounging rides off other people rather than looking for another. Mum is ultra keen to keep doing it though and is as devastated as me at the loss of George. She hoped we'd be doing horses together forever. We both know its going to be a bit manic when kids come along but Mum and OH don't want me to give up. I am exceptionally lucky to have them both. :D

No the jumping pony was not an ideal mount for my Mum but we were all too attached to her to part with her and Mum got used to the rocket launches out hacking and I do think riding something whizzy but acutally pretty safe has helped her confidence lots and made her want to keep doing it.

There's got to be a pone out there with our name on it!
 
I agree that horses are a life saver when you have children to spend some 'me time' even if it's just poo picking/mucking out, a bit of fresh air and horsey smells works wonders.

I'm sure you could find a nice welsh in your price range it just takes time and looking everyday. I searched for- a 16hh+ youngish gelding with potential (hate that word) to be a semi decent show jumper everyday on a list of websites for over 6 months :eek: because i had a very limited budget and on my birthday last year he came up in a small lineage ad of about 10 words and with no photo on a website i didn't check as often as there wasn't a high turnover of ads. He needed some work and 6 months later he's coming on a treat and we plan to affiliate in Oct- bargains are out there you've just got to keep searching and they do come up.
 
IMO, all you can do is keep on checking websites and local tackshops etc until you see what you are looking for. There are plenty of horses for sale out there and although some of them are 'silly money', there should be something within your budget before too long.
A native or coloured cob sounds ideal for your situation.
 
Hi, very sorry to hear of your loss:(

I'm another who votes for a connemara or connie x, we bought our 12 year old daughter a rising 5 year old to bring on and she copes fine with him, you should just about be able to buy a young one for your money and they seem pretty easy to bring on:)
 
If a youngster wouldn't be a problem I know someone selling a very smart gelding who is Haffie x anglo arab homebred 3 year old. Eligable for part bred arab showing classes and with the gorgeous colour of a haffie, but a bit taller and less tank like. I haven't met him but knowing who he belongs with I'm sure he will be well started and a nice chap. PM me if you want me to put you in touch.
 
I'm in Oxfordshire....

Horsemart pony looks sweet but its a mare and we have to have a gelding due to turnout arrangements which are so complicated I won't bore you with them!

Love the idea of a Sec D but all the ones I know are feisty, but thats probably just cos I have not met any sensible ones yet!
 
Or what about the fjord someone posted about earlier today for feedback on the advert - five year old, asking £3k but the advice was to knock this down.
 
Ive friends with a little coloured gelding for sale, hes 14hh 6 yr old, hunted & been shown inhand & undersaddle. Hes not got any feather though, but he reminds me very much of a coloured welshie. They are looking for £1700 for him, but would probably come down. Hes a lovely little chap & if i was looking & had the money i would probably snap him up.
 
Or actually if your mum fancies a nice big mane and you don't want a chunky hairy cob what about a pure bred arab? They often come up quite cheap because they aren't "fashionable" and are as hardy as a native. There are lots of showing classes for you and your mum and they can be pretty decent allrounders.
 
I've looked a bit on horsequest (hate that website why can't you search on it?!!) and everything half nice is about £5k or more. Horses are priced on potential not ability it seems. I do need to start looking on all the websites though and just keep looking til I see something worth going to visit.

I am encouraged though by all your comments! Thank you! :D
 
I've looked a bit on horsequest (hate that website why can't you search on it?!!) and everything half nice is about £5k or more. Horses are priced on potential not ability it seems. I do need to start looking on all the websites though and just keep looking til I see something worth going to visit.

I am encouraged though by all your comments! Thank you! :D

When I was looking I completely gave up on horse quest, the lack of search filters drove me potty, that and the number of POA or over £10k horses.....

I stuck to horsemart and horsedeals, mainly with occasional searches of horse hunter, H&H and pre-loved. I found mine on facebook in the end.
 
I actually sold a super little mare last year through preloved. We were so sad to sell her but didnt have a rider for her so home was more important than price. The girl thats got her is show jmuping her and has won and qualified her for everything in sight.

I am going to have a massive search on all those sites when I get home! I will report back!

Thanks again, I'm feeling way more enthused now. :D

Thanks also for condolences re George. I don't think I'll ever get over him. He was the most fun little horse I've ever had and in 8 years he never put his ears back at me either! Bless him. :)
 
Ive friends with a little coloured gelding for sale, hes 14hh 6 yr old, hunted & been shown inhand & undersaddle. Hes not got any feather though, but he reminds me very much of a coloured welshie. They are looking for £1700 for him, but would probably come down. Hes a lovely little chap & if i was looking & had the money i would probably snap him up.

he sounds nice, I'm worried it might be a bit small though. where are they?
 
Another vote for a D! I'd agree that they can be feisty and would add stubborn to that, but in my experience you can't beat a good one. My old boy made me think I was an amazing rider. I thought I was Mary King for 14 years until he died and I got my new one and I realised I'd been a passenger on a very clever and honest and brave little horse all that time, he was the brains behind our partnership, not me!
 
if you are after a connie I would try going to ireland to either gorsebridge or cavan sales there are some lovely horses across there and also very reasonably priced 2500 should get you a good connemara complete with transport home
 
Or actually if your mum fancies a nice big mane and you don't want a chunky hairy cob what about a pure bred arab? They often come up quite cheap because they aren't "fashionable" and are as hardy as a native. There are lots of showing classes for you and your mum and they can be pretty decent allrounders.

I have to agree with this. ;) :D :p

My body is pretty broken, I have to hack alone and I have a wonderful ex-endurance mare. Have a quick look on http://www.arabianlines.com/ (sales, then geldings) there might be something perfect for you.

I'm very sorry about George. :(
 
I have to say i would actually NOT go down the Welshie route (sorry to all those who love them). I guess i've never really experienced any straightforward ones and they do seem to be the most common to be not 100% in traffic. Of course i know that is somewhat a generalisation but we have had a welsh D who was not the best horse (vicious to other horses, terrified of large vehicles and all in all just a bit of a handful). I also have a welsh x who is equallly neurotic!

i would definitely try go for a connie or connie x (Tb). I love mine, he's very versatile, a real character and is also ridden by my mum and has been since he was 4 yo. He has in addition done BSJA up to NC, competed at ODEs, BE and basically anything you ask of him. Everyone I know who's had a connie has said how fab they are. That is probably why they are quite expensive though!!!

To be honest, I am probably like you, i just go for what i like, i get a vibe in the first instance. I like my crossbreeds though and tend to go for a native x TB.

Oh and Horsequest is a nightmare - WHY can't they make it as easier to search as Horsemart and Horsedeals??!!!
 
Get a Fell pony. I've got one and hes a super all rounder, eventing, dressage, showing etc... Fells are a gentle nature but also have character so they'll keep you on your toes haha. But they are hardy and tough but not too stocky and mine only has a few feathers. They are good family ponies and very easy going, I highly recommend a Fell pony! :D
 
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