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Can anyone shed some light on what this may be! Had my horse at an arena event today, he was super double clear and 2nd.
Finished our lap of honour and thought hmmm he doesn’t feel 100% right in the trot, he tripped as we left the arena also. Anyways took him back to the warm up for a trot to see how he felt, felt fine not up nor down, trotted him up (without me on him) on the concrete outside and was fine.
Got him off the lorry and instantly noticed he was lame, trotted him up and now quite lame. I have seen him worse (like when he had an abscess) but he is pretty sore on his front left, coincidentally the same foot he had the abscess in last year that I got scanned etc as wasn’t convinced it was an abscess but anyway it turned out to be.
So I’ve got him home popped him in the stable and poulticed his hoof with the hope it is an abscess.
There is no heat or swelling in his leg and it clearly isn’t that sore as he is still booting his door down!

Any ideas on what you think this may be? Coincidentally happened after jumping or something more sinister caused by jumping? I appreciate hard to tell and no one has X-ray eyes.
Also would you bute him? I was thinking not incase it is an abscess or should I since he is visibly lame. I am hanging off phoning the vet at the moment as 1. It’s Saturday and 2. The guy I use for lameness is handily out at the yard on Monday! So if this turns out not to be an abscess I will jump on tht visit.
Any ideas welcome guys!
 
I am another who would suck up the vet call out and have eyes on it, not worth the risk when it sounds like it could be soft tissue damage as it's occured after strenuous work. That would also have conflicting treatment options to an abscess. I know money is money, but the call out may not be as much as you think
 
AShetlandBitMeOnce said:
I am another who would suck up the vet call out and have eyes on it, not worth the risk when it sounds like it could be soft tissue damage as it's occured after strenuous work. That would also have conflicting treatment options to an abscess. I know money is money, but the call out may not be as much as you think
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That is very valid, I might just suck it up and phone them!
Why does it always happen on a weekend!!
 
Horsegirl25 said:
Can anyone shed some light on what this may be! Had my horse at an arena event today, he was super double clear and 2nd.
Finished our lap of honour and thought hmmm he doesn’t feel 100% right in the trot, he tripped as we left the arena also. Anyways took him back to the warm up for a trot to see how he felt, felt fine not up nor down, trotted him up (without me on him) on the concrete outside and was fine.
Got him off the lorry and instantly noticed he was lame, trotted him up and now quite lame. I have seen him worse (like when he had an abscess) but he is pretty sore on his front left, coincidentally the same foot he had the abscess in last year that I got scanned etc as wasn’t convinced it was an abscess but anyway it turned out to be.
So I’ve got him home popped him in the stable and poulticed his hoof with the hope it is an abscess.
There is no heat or swelling in his leg and it clearly isn’t that sore as he is still booting his door down!

Any ideas on what you think this may be? Coincidentally happened after jumping or something more sinister caused by jumping? I appreciate hard to tell and no one has X-ray eyes.
Also would you bute him? I was thinking not incase it is an abscess or should I since he is visibly lame. I am hanging off phoning the vet at the moment as 1. It’s Saturday and 2. The guy I use for lameness is handily out at the yard on Monday! So if this turns out not to be an abscess I will jump on tht visit.
Any ideas welcome guys!
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Personally I'd wait to call the ver until Monday. Lead out for a quiet pick of grass Sunday, ice or hose, and then when the vet looks there'll hopefully be something obvious to find. I wouldn't bute at this stage, unless I knew exactly what it was.
 
Mine did something similar at a show - was a very quickly developing abscess.

Agree with TheMule that there will be little a vet could do tonight if it has been soft tissue injury. Personally I’d hose/ice boot, bute and box rest over the weekend and see what develops. Obviously if things were to dramatically deteriorate I’d get vet asap.
 
rhino said:
Mine did something similar at a show - was a very quickly developing abscess.

Agree with TheMule that there will be little a vet could do tonight if it has been soft tissue injury. Personally I’d hose/ice boot, bute and box rest over the weekend and see what develops. Obviously if things were to dramatically deteriorate I’d get vet asap.
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Fingers crossed this is also what’s happening with my guy. They are such a worry!
 
IME with this sort of thing if vet has suspected a ligament or tendon issue they’ve told me to cold hose and box rest for a few days then they’ll reassess and look at scanning so I wouldn’t consider this an emergency call out, Monday will be fine.

Don’t Bute if you are having vet on Monday as it will still be in his system and the vet won’t be able to properly evaluate the lameness.
 
KikiDee said:
IME with this sort of thing if vet has suspected a ligament or tendon issue they’ve told me to cold hose and box rest for a few days then they’ll reassess and look at scanning so I wouldn’t consider this an emergency call out, Monday will be fine.

Don’t Bute if you are having vet on Monday as it will still be in his system and the vet won’t be able to properly evaluate the lameness.
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Thank you! Sorry if this is an extremely daft question I’ve been lucky enough to never deal with this before! Would you fully box rest or hand walk couple times a day I.e when mucking out etc. I am leaning to fully box rest until I know what we’re dealing with?
 
Horsegirl25 said:
Thank you! Sorry if this is an extremely daft question I’ve been lucky enough to never deal with this before! Would you fully box rest or hand walk couple times a day I.e when mucking out etc. I am leaning to fully box rest until I know what we’re dealing with?
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I’d fully box rest if it’s just 48 hours until Monday and horse will stay in happily. A gentle walk to hand-graze won’t do any harm but you don’t want to be purposefully walking at this stage until you have some advice from the vet. Fingers crossed for you it’s nothing sinister and he comes out of his box and trots up perfectly sound and makes you look daft! :)
 
One of ours finished sound after eventing but was visibly lame the following morning. Nothing to see on examination. Turned out to be a medial collateral ligament injury. Adrenaline from competing probably covered the lameness the day of competing. I'd definitely be proceeding with caution and resting. Vet no later than Monday.
 
I agree with others that there wouldn't be much to gain getting a vet out before Monday. I would walk out in hand for ten minutes twice a day for a pick of grass and to assess.
 
interesting the conflicting views on the thread - I would get the vet to get eyes on as often they will see things you have missed and if abscess I would poultice, not bute and probably turn out as long as not on three legs as movement can stimulate it bursting.. whereas a soft tissue I would be cold hosing, buting and depending on what was affected box resting so completely conflicting treatments.
I know OP said nothing obvious to see, but I have missed very 'obvious' things that a vet has picked out immediately before now and for the sake of less than £100, I'd rather be sure.
 
AShetlandBitMeOnce said:
interesting the conflicting views on the thread - I would get the vet to get eyes on as often they will see things you have missed and if abscess I would poultice, not bute and probably turn out as long as not on three legs as movement can stimulate it bursting.. whereas a soft tissue I would be cold hosing, buting and depending on what was affected box resting so completely conflicting treatments.
I know OP said nothing obvious to see, but I have missed very 'obvious' things that a vet has picked out immediately before now and for the sake of less than £100, I'd rather be sure.
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Conflicting treatment yes, but ice and rest will not cause further damage if it is an abscess at this point. But poultice and movement could worsen soft tissue.

Hence go for ice and rest, then vet on Monday
 
AShetlandBitMeOnce said:
for the sake of less than £100, I'd rather be sure.
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I also fall in the camp of bute, cold hose/ice, and box rest and I am 100% confident that is what my Saturday vet would tell me to do anyway as they don't jump to scanning on day 1 with soft tissue.

In the South East, you're looking at around £400 for a saturday call out + consultation + a few bute these days .... Not that it's always about the money. It's not and if insured then it doesn't matter anyway, but the less than £100 wouldn't be an option here!
 
I’ve no aversion to paying a weekend call out fee and will do for any external injury near a joint or the slightest hint of colic. But I know if I rang my vet about a soft tissue injury on any day of the week they’d advise me to cold hose/ice and rest for a couple of days to allow any swelling to go down then bring them in to assess and scan. There’s really not much they can do until then.
 
Just to be clear it was never about the money of course we all grudge a weekend call out but if i genuinely felt that the vet was needed OOH of course i would phone them, my feelings were the same as some that have replied that not much could’ve been done if called out last night. He has been box rested iced/cold hose, polticed (holding onto the hope of an abscess)and is quite content albeit still lame. We shall see what tomorrow holds with the vet, hopefully if he has done something internally it isn’t too severe 🤞🏼
 
MissTyc said:
I also fall in the camp of bute, cold hose/ice, and box rest and I am 100% confident that is what my Saturday vet would tell me to do anyway as they don't jump to scanning on day 1 with soft tissue.

In the South East, you're looking at around £400 for a saturday call out + consultation + a few bute these days .... Not that it's always about the money. It's not and if insured then it doesn't matter anyway, but the less than £100 wouldn't be an option here!
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I am in Sussex, we had a Christmas day call out for colic including the call out, examination and drugs the bill was less than £250 - maybe our vets have a more reasonable call out than most, it's not a small one, it's the local vet hospital
 
Just an update, I have box rested since Saturday, not given Bute. He has only moved from his stable to my other so I can muck out or to the back door for a cold hose! He came out the stable significantly better this morning, still noticeably lame in trot but not as bad as Saturday.
Nothing on poultice so not convinced it’s an abscess but was no harm in hoping it was lol.
Vet coming out the afternoon so hopefully have some more answers then.
Still no heat or swelling so hopefully nothing too serious 🤞🏼
 
AShetlandBitMeOnce said:
I am in Sussex, we had a Christmas day call out for colic including the call out, examination and drugs the bill was less than £250 - maybe our vets have a more reasonable call out than most, it's not a small one, it's the local vet hospital
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Very very reasonable ime and I've had a good few ooh vet visits for colic and other things.
 
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