New puppy causing worry...... sorry long!

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Some of you may remember that I lost our much loved elderly dog a couple of months ago......well my other dog ( a youngster) was getting very unhappy being an only dog so....I have taken on a 3 month old lab puppy from a local rescue centre. She was bred in Ireland and is one of a litter or 12, all bar 2 pups were sold leaving mine and her sister who were on their way to the pound (?) when the rescue centre stepped in.

She is in the process of being housetrained so yes we do still have the odd accident, but my biggest concern is that she has pee'd twice in the car, hadn't shown any signs that she needed to go, she frequently pee's on her bed at some point during the night (aswell as on the kitchen floor), but most worringly she was asleep on my chair the other evening, when I went to turn out the lights etc. to go to bed, she did wake up and when she got off to go out, I was straightening the cover and I noticed a wet patch!

When she arrived she was on antibiotics and Metacam for cystitis. She finished the course over 2 weeks ago. I have noticed though that she does drink an awful lot of water, and when we are out she pee's for england!

Any thoughts would be appreciated.......I am thinking Vet's is the way to go??
 
Def trip to the vets, could be a UTI. I don't mean to scare you but if she was from a puppy farm or BYB before she was rescued, there could be inbreeding or bad breeding in the mix and she may have some sort of internal waterworks issue - best to get it checked out x
 
It could be a continuation of the cystitis - a nasty UTI isn't always conquered by one short course of antibiotics, it might need a stronger/longer blast. Take a sample with you to the vet (harder with a bitch I know, try sliding a tray under her mid flow :o).

There are such things as congenital urinary tract issues, my spotty dog has wee problems (leaking in his sleep and sometimes while awake, excessive thirst, excessive urination, very dilute urine) and was investigated for something called ectopic ureter which is not usually serious in dogs but can lead to persistent leakage in bitches or even total unviability in newborns. He was also tested for diabetes, Addisons etc. Lots of possibilities but most can be ruled out with a simple urine sample. :)
 
Its not the best food out there you might want to look at this linkhttp://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-health-nutrition/189896-dry-dog-food-index.html

4 times a day does seem a lot for a 12 week puppy, you might want to damp it down a bit also. If you do decide to change her food do it gradual and dont be persuaded by your vet to buy his food.

Let us know how you get on at the vets and good luck.
 
I hope she was properly screened before being treated with ABs and Meloxicam. She seems to have had a lot of moves for a young pup. I wouldn't discount psychogenic polydipsia. I would certainly look at her diet too. Hope she improves soon:)
 
Dobiegirl said:
Its not the best food out there you might want to look at this linkhttp://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-health-nutrition/189896-dry-dog-food-index.html

4 times a day does seem a lot for a 12 week puppy, you might want to damp it down a bit also. If you do decide to change her food do it gradual and dont be persuaded by your vet to buy his food.

Let us know how you get on at the vets and good luck.
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Will take look at the link you've suggested. I've never had a puppy before so any advice is gratefully received!
I was advised to feed her 4 times a day for about the next month or so by the rescue centre. I have been dampening the food down for her, sorry should have mentioned that.

Thanks to everyone else for advice, I know she's had a tough start to her life and has been moved from pillar to post but she is here to stay and has settled down really well and has given my other dog a new lease of life!

Will certainly get her to the Vet's tomorrow.
 
You have a puppy farm puppy that you possibly bought from a dealer posing as a rescue - there are a few of these.
Assume poor breeding & poor rearing. Four meals a day at 12 weeks is not out of order - usually you'd drop to three meals at around 4 months so it is normal. Beta isn't the best food but nor is it the worst and don't change it yet. Keep damping it.

Which vet diagnosed the condition? What does your vet say? She should have been seen when you had her vaccinated.
 
Hi,

My puppy had a urine infection at 4 months and sounds very similar, he would pee where he was laying. Urine infections are difficult to treat in one dose of antibiotics so may need another course.

I took a urine sample with me to vets and at risk of this sounding disgusting I got my sample from a wet patch off the kitchen floor (floor was clean before he pee'd) I soaked it up in kitchen towel and squeezed and rung the kitchen towel out afterwards into a sample pot. Needless to say I disinfected my hands thoroughly afterwards about 3 times.

Vet was very excited that I took a sample in with me.

God luck with your puppy x
 
s4sugar said:
You have a puppy farm puppy that you possibly bought from a dealer posing as a rescue - there are a few of these.
Assume poor breeding & poor rearing. Four meals a day at 12 weeks is not out of order - usually you'd drop to three meals at around 4 months so it is normal. Beta isn't the best food but nor is it the worst and don't change it yet. Keep damping it.

Which vet diagnosed the condition? What does your vet say? She should have been seen when you had her vaccinated.
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I may well have a puppy farm puppy (both her parents were seen and have papers) but certainly not from a dealer posing as a rescue! It is a well known rescue centre to me. She was seen by the centre's Vet who had done both vaccinations and diagnosed the condition before I took her on. She has been to see my vet but at the time she was still on the antibiotics with which he agreed was correct for the cystitis.
 
:(Poor puppy is feeling very sorry for herself today, now off her food although still drinking. She has been to see the vet who is quite concerned about her as she has a temp of 40. I gave her the history on her background and her recent bout of cystits. I did take a urine sample with me (although puppy obliged and pee'd in the waiting room!) which she tested and said that it looked very dilute and there was quite alot of white blood cells and only a few red ones present. She also mentioned the condition "ectopic ureter" but for the moment she wants to give her a course of antibiotics to see if it clears up the infection. I am taking her back tomorrow afternoon for a check to see how she is doing. In the meantime poorly pup is being kept quiet, she is currently flaked out on the living room floor.
 
Oh poor little girl, hopefully more abs will sort it, when they have a poor start it does knock them back but fingers crossed she will soon be on the mend.

Thanks for the update.
 
I do hope so as she such a lovely little thing its sad to see her like she is at the moment, she's usually so full of life......on the up side she has just eaten some of her food! She made such a hit at the the vets, had them all drooling over her, tempting her with treats and lots of sympathy votes for her unfortunate start in life!
 
Poor puppy, hopefully another course of anti-bs will shift it.

My spotty dog leaked again today for the first time in a couple of months, we never did get to the bottom of it, the vet likes to refer to it as idiopathic polydipsia (he drinks a lot but we don't know why :rolleyes:). His urine is also very dilute - any sample taken after midday 'could be bottled and labelled as Evian' in the vet's words but his first wee of the day is of normal concentration.

Is she insured? If the anti-bs don't do the trick and the vet wants to investigate the possibility of ectopic ureter it's a fairly straightforward procedure but involves a general anaesthetic and a series of x-rays so can cost a few hundred pounds. They send a contrast fluid up into the bladder and associated tubes and take x-rays as it enters and drains to assess the function of the ureters, urethra and bladder spinchter. If there is a malformation then corrective surgery may be an option, or medication like propalin may be effective in helping her control the flow.
 
My adult dog has a very short urethra, wide bladder neck and no sheath (it was removed, don't ask) so is very prone to UTIs. On two occasions he has had to have two-month blasts of anti-biotics but touch wood he has gone almost two years without a very bad infection, these conditions can be treatable/manageable with proper diagnosis and an eagle eye to spot relapses.

My fella's problems were only ascertained by a bladder scan and a scope.
 
Nothing constructive to add but I just wanted to say hope she is feeling better soon. This heat won't help either.

When she is feeling better make sure you introduce her to us all and provide piccies.
 
Thank you all for your help and good wishes she is a little brighter this evening, but I'm missing my cuddles with her, she is relegated to her basket in case of accidents!
Yes she is insured Blackcob but it only came into force today, so worst case scenerio if she does need further tests down the line then hopefully she will be covered for it.

I would put up some piccies of her but I'm not sure how?
 
I hope your little one gets better soon.

Just to let you know though that any pre-existing conditions or any problems noted on your pets history prior to taking out your insurance policy will never be covered under any insurance company and a full case history would need to be provided with any new claim made. Just thought i should make you aware xx
 
Pup has been back to the Vets today who was really impressed at the improvment in her since yesterday, her temp is back to normal, she is eating well again and so far today we have not had any weeing whilst asleep! The Vet has increased her antibiotics to 14 days altogether, we have to take in a wee sample at the end of this week and again a week after she finishes the tablets. Vet is hopeful that this will knock it on the head as she thinks that the previous course of antibiotics weren't strong enough and it was only a 5 day course which didn't clear the original infection properly. She has however told me that if the final wee test still shows signs of infection then she would like to test her for an eptopic uteter.

If this is the case and tests were done but least not for another 3 weeks, would the insurance not cover it then as techincally it would be a new condition as at the moment she is only being treated for an infection for which I am covering the cost? Sorry to sound so naive but I've never had dealings with claiming on insurance for dogs.:confused:
 
I would have thought as she came with some sort of urinary infection this would rule out any Insurance claim.

I think if you make a new post you will get more answers and from people more informed than me.
 
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