New shoes for coffin joint arthritis

[hopscotch bandit]

New shoes fitted by my rather brilliant farrier. The blurb says that the Avanti PLR side clipped shoe balances the shoe around the coffin joint and features a leverage reduction design to avoid excessive forces on the soft tissue structures in and around the coffin joint. They seem to be slightly thicker than the old shoes.

I was going to attach photos but I'm struggling due to file size

 

[jenniehodges2001]

I have the same for my horse, if this is what you mean?

 

[hopscotch bandit]

Those are they! Thanks.Keeps saying the photo is too big to upload.

 

[TPO]

How do they work to do what they say they do? I don't understand the physics

 

[ester]

I think because the inner rim is higher they act like a rock/roller shoe for breakover.

 

[TPO]

I think because the inner rim is higher they act like a rock/roller shoe for breakover.

Would that not cause other issues is the hoof is purposely higher on the medial aspect?

 

[Tiddlypom]

Interesting shoes, I hadn’t seen those before, thanks for posting.

FGI, my mare, who had some inflammatory changes in her front coffins plus some strongly suspected soft tissue damage within the foot, has responded very well to gel injections into her front coffins.

Has now been pronounced sound in front by the chiro vet, which is a huge step forward. She is out of shoes - shoeing briefly made her look more comfortable, but she would always soon become lamer than she was without the shoes.

Her issues started with poor foot balance - overly long toes.

 

[sbloom]

There's brilliant stuff on shoeing for these sorts of issues on a couple of pages on FB - Mark Johnson Farrier - another way? and Progressive Equine Services & Hoofcare Centre. They look interesting, my concerns would be weight, and the fact there's no frog support, and that you're still relying on the trim (as you always are) to open up the heels and reduce sulcus depth, improve HPA and heel function etc.

I should say I've long been a barefoot fan, and would still choose that route wherever possible, but these two pages are showing some brilliant work including with wedges and bar shoes, which I'd always been pretty anti, but these aren't like any bar shoes you've ever seen before. They're definitely at the cutting edge.

 

[jenniehodges2001]

https://forums.horseandhound.co.uk/threads/performance-leverage-reduction-plr-shoes.558357/

Interesting read about this on a previous post from 2012. As per usual it descended to a bitch fest

 

[chaps89]

Mine has been in these for a few years now and they've worked well for us

 

[SEL]

There's brilliant stuff on shoeing for these sorts of issues on a couple of pages on FB - Mark Johnson Farrier - another way? and Progressive Equine Services & Hoofcare Centre. They look interesting, my concerns would be weight, and the fact there's no frog support, and that you're still relying on the trim (as you always are) to open up the heels and reduce sulcus depth, improve HPA and heel function etc.

I should say I've long been a barefoot fan, and would still choose that route wherever possible, but these two pages are showing some brilliant work including with wedges and bar shoes, which I'd always been pretty anti, but these aren't like any bar shoes you've ever seen before. They're definitely at the cutting edge.

I follow both those pages. I like that they give their reasoning behind whatever solution they've decided to go with.

 

[ycbm]

View attachment 57424 I have the same for my horse, if this is what you mean?

I would be interested to understand why they help any more than a broad web rolled toe shoe.
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[On the Hoof]

This is very interesting - my horse has mild navicular and coffin joint arthritis and we went barefoot in January but she is now showing signs of lameness (1:10) and vet is suggesting putting shoes back on although he admits to being ‘old school’. I would be interested in answers to ybcm’s question .

 

[hopscotch bandit]

I would be interested to understand why they help any more than a broad web rolled toe shoe.
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Looking up the info i assume because they have a rolled heel they allow for a softer heel first landing. It says they are also well seated out past the toe quarters to eliminate any sole pressure. I think they also help to move the breakover point back by lowering peak loading during breakover.

I'm paying exactly the same as the previous shoes with the heart bar pads which were for the check ligament injury.

The specialist vet who recommended the previous style of shoeing has recommended them so maybe he has taken the check ligament injury into account as well as the coffin joint arthritis

So I'm not going to argue. I assume between the vet and the farrier they know what they are talking about.

 

[sbloom]

So I'm not going to argue. I assume between the vet and the farrier they know what they are talking about.

Everyone would absolutely understand anyone following vet and farrier advice, and no-one would simply tell you to ignore them. They will present evidence that may contradict what their recommendations are, as there are many other approaches out there, some of which are cutting edge and unfamiliar to many vets, farriers etc, and many of us have gone the route recommended by our professionals, which in the end failed us.

I do think these guys https://www.facebook.com/hoofscanandhoofcarecentre are at said cutting edge, and they are very anti open backed shoes as they call them, of any type.