New to rugging, when should you put a rug on and what type.

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Every morning in yards people are wondering what rugs to put on and asking eachother what the weather forecast is or are sitting at work worying that they have got it wrong and their horses are uncomfortable- people just do their best.
 

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Its up to the horse really OP, I have unclipped horses in 4/5 rugs atm and a fully clipped out ish in just a h/w so just rug according to each individual horse
 

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Thanks for all the advice. Just on question, im planning to keep her hacking out as long as the roads are good. I will just take nice long walking hacks, e.g. no trotting or anythink. Would this make any difference in what rug she would need when back from a hack. Or would it just depend on how much she is sweating.
My welsh is doing acouple hacks a weeks at just over 2 hours, and does break a sweat, but shes been doing this all year. And the new horse hasnt been in work since early september.

Thanks for all the help, i know with my experience with horse you would think i know about rugging but ive never need to rug. I have thatched acouple of times when ive bathed my horses. But i use a large old blanket and a surcingle girth.
Scuse me if I am wrong but OP you seem either young or just a poor speller for someone running a yard.

I cannot see anyone running a yard not knowing how or what type of rug to use. This is basic stuff regardless of whether you have rugs on yours.


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Scuse me if I am wrong but OP you seem either young or just a poor speller for someone running a yard.

I cannot see anyone running a yard not knowing how or what type of rug to use. This is basic stuff regardless of whether you have rugs on yours.


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Have you got nothing better to do? The claws are out in force on here tonight! I'm off to write some Christmas cards ... :D
 

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Scuse me if I am wrong but OP you seem either young or just a poor speller for someone running a yard.

I cannot see anyone running a yard not knowing how or what type of rug to use. This is basic stuff regardless of whether you have rugs on yours.


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Im on a very old laptop with half the keys missing or the stick, so yes the spelling is poor. Also the yard i work for many keeps native breeds that we back and someone the girls show, as i cant stand the showing scene.

THanks everyone else i think ive got the do's and dont's now.
 

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Maybe you should of learnt about rugging before you got a horse!

Like above maybe you should have been a little more prepared. However, rugging is individual to every horse. If the horse is unclipped and up to weight or overweight I would not rug unless the weather is wet and cold, and leave naked if its cold but dry. Just keep checking that the horse is warm but not hot or sweaty under the rug and you'll soon learn what rug the horse needs in what weather by trial and error.

I'm afraid I agree with the others. This is the sort of thing you really ought to be clued up on before buying a horse, especially considering you stated this on another thread..
" and now i am head groom at a livery yard."

And you don't know how to rug? Okay...?

Scuse me if I am wrong but OP you seem either young or just a poor speller for someone running a yard.

I cannot see anyone running a yard not knowing how or what type of rug to use. This is basic stuff regardless of whether you have rugs on yours.


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Am new to this forum but people like you guys make me think twice about posting any questions. Just nasty. The OP is asking for help.
 

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Ah, the great rug debate again (raises glass)!

Personally I prefer (and I believe my horse agrees) to feed extra haylage rather than rug.

It was minus seven yesterday (according to the car) and my unclipped Arab was out naked.

She hasn't lost any weight yet (in fact she looks about 10 months pregnant) so I don't think I'll be rugging any time soon.

She does get a rain sheet if it's wet though as she does shiver then.
 

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Am new to this forum but people like you guys make me think twice about posting any questions. Just nasty. The OP is asking for help.

I do not believe I was nasty.. I gave solid advice, where as other people did just leave a critical comment without any constructive advice
 

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Have you got nothing better to do? The claws are out in force on here tonight! I'm off to write some Christmas cards ... :D

1 . yes I have thank you
2. it was an observation
3. All the yards I have worked at head groom knew and had allot of experience and had staff working under them, so yes I am a little surprised OP doesn't know that is in no way a dig or a nasty comment.

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To be fair if you worked on a yard that bred highlands, or haflingers, or any of the many M&M breeds for showing, its fairly likely they would be managed without wearing rugs, and what does head groom even mean? Just being the most senior groom really isn't it, I suppose I have been head groom before... When I was the only groom, oh and it was in Italy in hot weather.

Sometimes it just doesn't come up, in which case you might dig out an outdated pony club manual... or you might ask for up to date advice from people who rug or don't rug daily.

Of course I expect they do regular reading, writing and arithmetic tests at your yard OP, or however would you do the horses' bed time stories?
 

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1 . yes I have thank you
2. it was an observation
3. All the yards I have worked at head groom knew and had allot of experience and had staff working under them, so yes I am a little surprised OP doesn't know that is in no way a dig or a nasty comment.

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Oh dear. I'm not a spelling Nazi, despite being an English teacher, but criticising someone for spelling whilst using the words 'scuse' and 'allot' is too ironic not to comment. Maybe take a look at this to help yourself:
https://sharepoint.ocsarts.net/stud...gh/Helpful Grammar Pictures/Alot vs a lot.bmp
 

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This forum does make me cross sometimes....it can be AMAZING...but sometimes people seem to have nothing better to do than to pick at the OP and I hate it!

so what if there are spelling mistakes! so what if they 'should know better' ...it would be far better if people could feel able to ask questions without being slated! One of my best mates is crap at spelling, she is very bright and capable....she just hated school!

OP - whatever your circumstances please keep asking questions.

My advice would be that every horse if different - when you get a newbie it is trial and error...check the weather reports, leave a rug on for 20 min + and then check for overheating or being cold...there is no hard and fast rule as far as I am concerned, my old firl should need ruggin to the eyeballs (but she is very hardy!) my youngster is a wuss! and needs a decnt rug otherwise he is miserable and shakes :( xx
 

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Wow, some harsh responses on here! Just depends on what you're used to I guess- natives are different to ID x TB! Good luck and sounds like you've gained some good advice re rugging. I've over rugged my TB but she only came with a heavyweight with neck so will have to do for now! She won't need clipping at least as has a very glossy but fine winter coat... Sure yoy'll
 

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Hello,
Ive realise bought a new horse. She wont be coming till after christmas, but is the first horse ive owned which is rugged. She currently has a medium rug on. The owners have told me that if the weather changes before i have her, she will have a heavy weight one on.
Ive seen alot of people with thick rugs on there horses in the middle of summer when there was a quick shower.

What i would like to know is what weather should i rug and what type of rug?
Ive visted her acouple of times and she has a thick coat, and cant see why she is rugged. But i know once a horse is rugged it is more likely to get cold.

Thanks

Hilarious!!!!
 

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As already said it's made slightly more complicated by the fact that the horse has already been rugged and so if you whip them off you are likely to have a narked neddy on your hands! It'll also depend on where he's stabled and how cold it gets in there, plus his turnout arrangements. So, for example, if he's going out and it's warm but raining buckets I would put a lighter weight turnout on possibly with a neck attachment to keep the worst of the water off without over-heating. If it's cold but dry I'd be tempted towards a medium without a neck cover and if it's arctic chill with absolutely no shelter whatsoever then I would think about something heavier if he's clipped and skinny, if he isn't and is a good weight then again a good mediumweight should suffice. In the stable I always tend to avoid neck covers and go with the lightest I can get away with - if you get a lot of wind or the stables are open to the elements you'll need something slightly thicker than if it's an american barn style stable block. In terms of rugging after a hack I would wait and see how he reacts to the work - if he is very sweaty then you'll need to cool him off properly, preferably in a light fleece or specific cooler rug (I don't like the mesh ones personally, find they don't provide much in either warmth or water-wicking properties)before swapping to the appropriate stable rug. Once the weather starts to improve a bit you can decide whether you want to keep him rugged or start reducing them down but I think for the moment you're probably going to have to keep him snuggly! On a final note though, if you're at all unsure whether a rug is too much for him I always err on the side of caution and under rug rather than over - so long as they are healthy and a good weight with plenty of forage it's far better for them to be slightly chilly than sweating under a rug
 

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Scuse me if I am wrong but OP you seem either young or just a poor speller for someone running a yard.

I cannot see anyone running a yard not knowing how or what type of rug to use. This is basic stuff regardless of whether you have rugs on yours.


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How bloody rude. Just who do you think you are.... Whether the OP can spell or not is really none of your business and your post is poisonous. What a nasty person you are. Did you have a bad day or something?

OP good luck with your new pony. Lots of good advice on here from the nicer people on HHO.
 

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Oh dear. I'm not a spelling Nazi, despite being an English teacher, but criticising someone for spelling whilst using the words 'scuse' and 'allot' is too ironic not to comment. Maybe take a look at this to help yourself:
https://sharepoint.ocsarts.net/stud...gh/Helpful Grammar Pictures/Alot vs a lot.bmp


I have a reason if I spell bad (do not have to explain it here)
Now lets drop the picking holes in spelling as we are digressing from the OP post.

I am in a fragile state at the moment and I am not getting into a thread battle .:(
 
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How bloody rude. Just who do you think you are.... Whether the OP can spell or not is really none of your business and your post is poisonous. What a nasty person you are. Did you have a bad day or something?

OP good luck with your new pony. Lots of good advice on here from the nicer people on HHO.

you are rude having a go at me its none of your business either is it.:rolleyes:

I am not the only one who was surprised at a head groom not knowing about rugs.

That aside

The OP has explained why the typos are in the thread, we now know.:rolleyes: So why don't you stop your having ago at me. I am sure the OP does not need the help of fellow members fighting her battle.



OP good luck with the rug situation and the new pony hope you get it sorted.
FWIW I have had a bad week :(:(:(:(:(:(:( which is all in another thread.
and sorry about the typo comment.
 
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Sorry Leviathan, you're wrong. It's quite correct to use an s rather than a z (which would indicate an Americanism).

Its ok amymay I removed it when I remembered its american way.

its funny when no one comments on other people calling her a troll but me saying bad speller they all jump on me :rolleyes:
 

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why pray tell do you say that?? enlighten me?
No one is saying you cannot ask advice, members are just surprised they don't know about rugs etc. That is the thing that people have mentioned.

Didn't understand the first part of that sentence.

And it's pretty obvious isn't it?
 
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