Newby after some pinworm advise??!

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Evening! I've been reading different threads about pinworm as a guest and got loads of great tips so have decided to join and see if I could get some more advise for my mares pinworm problem...

This year I've had my girls on Strongid p. double dosed in oct and then single dose 6 weeks later. Both times one of my girlies has passed dead pinworms.
I've spoken to my vet who's suggested worming another twice with strongid 10 days apart. I'm now wiping and putting Vaseline on the bums, Both stables haynet etc have been scrubbed to within an inch of my life!! That was 3 days after worming.

My questions are, do I need to scub stables again after each worming?
How long should I Vaseline for?
Should I use panacur 5 day a month or so after the last strongid p or will it be too much?

Any advice would be great, I'm desperate to get rid of the critters!!
 
I would suggest using neem oil instead of vaseline, it will stop eggs sticking but also changes the hormones of the worms and prevents them from breeding any further apparently. I treated my boy with neem every day for 2 weeks, just wiped his whole backend with it including the tail and coat around the tail, and never seen any sign of the worms since - that was about 8months ago. Mine live out so no idea about stables etc, but if it is bad then I would suggest using the oil for much longer, maybe do twice a week for a couple of months once all signs of infestation have gone.
 
Dollyanna; I Didn't realise you could use neem like this. What type do you use. I've got a bottle but it's a blend with bergamot added to mask the neem smell. No wonder its name translates to cure all :)
 
Just had a look at neem oil, didnt realise it could be used for so many different things! I just looked at online shops but will ask at my local tack/ feed shop. Thanks!
 
I got mine from ebay I think, amazon also sell it at a reasonable price if you look for neem for horses and not the tiny bottles you get for people. I use it for everything now, have had sores healed (from rubbing) within 24hrs to clean skin, soothing itchy manes, repelling midges (amazing!) and of course the worms. You can dilute it with a carrier oil if needed. I mixed it with coconut oil and then vaseline for the pinworms, but don't bother now. I would advise wearing gloves if you don't like the smell though because it doesn't come off your hands!!
It does seem to be incredible stuff, useful for all sorts of things, but I find it really interesting when it comes to pests, as it appears to actually change them on a hormonal level and therefore break the cycle - may people seem to use it on houseplants for example, I was thinking of spraying it on the reeds in the ponies' field next year to see if I can reduce the midges. You can mix it with oil or emulsify it with water and washing up liquid to make a fly repellent that is really powerful but harmless if they groom each other and ingest it. One of mine likes to lick my hands after I put it on them - oh, you can feed neem leaves as well, loads of benefits from that too!!
 
I've seen NeemTeam do a neem and coconut cream, would that be any good or am I better sticking to the oil? My other girl gets mud fever from time to time so I am going to try it on that this year too! Sounds like really good stuff. Glad I joined now, rather than lurking in the shadows! Thanks
 
Bluedaisys said:
I've seen NeemTeam do a neem and coconut cream, would that be any good or am I better sticking to the oil? My other girl gets mud fever from time to time so I am going to try it on that this year too! Sounds like really good stuff. Glad I joined now, rather than lurking in the shadows! Thanks
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:) it's pretty amazing stuff. I think the leaves are used in humans to kill intestinal parasites .. Certainly be a very useful tree to have growing in the paddock.

Thank you Dollyanna. I'll have a look on Amazon and eBay .. Yes it does smell strong.. Stale onion and garlic curry :D
 
looks like good stuff but a word of warning, after looking for side effects there are lots of them;

Neem appears to be safe for most adults, when taken by mouth for a short period of time. When neem is taken in large doses or for long periods of time, it might be UNSAFE. It might harm the kidneys and liver.
Special Precautions & Warnings:
Children: Neem is UNSAFE for children. Serious side effects in infants and small children can happen within hours after taking neem oil. These serious side effects include vomiting, diarrhea, drowsiness, blood disorders, seizures, loss of consciousness, coma, brain disorders, and death.

Pregnancy and breast-feeding: Neem oil and neem bark are UNSAFE to use during pregnancy. They can cause a miscarriage.

“Auto-immune diseases” such as multiple sclerosis (MS), lupus (systemic lupus erythematosus, SLE), rheumatoid arthritis (RA), or other conditions: Neem might cause the immune system to become more active, and this could increase the symptoms of auto-immune diseases. If you have one of these conditions, it’s best to avoid using neem.

Diabetes: There is some evidence that neem can lower blood sugar levels and might cause blood sugar to go too low. If you have diabetes and use neem, monitor your blood sugar carefully. It might be necessary to change the dose of your diabetes medication.

Reduced ability to have children (infertility): There is some evidence that neem can harm sperm. It might also reduce fertility in other ways. If you are trying to have children, avoid using neem.

Organ transplant: There is a concern that neem might decrease the effectiveness of medications that are used to prevent organ rejection. Do not use neem if you have had an organ transplant.

Surgery: Because neem might lower blood sugar levels, there is a concern that it might interfere with blood sugar control during and after surgery. Stop using neem at least 2 weeks before a scheduled surgery.


the above is from an accredited health website
 
Good point, keep an eye out for any reactions but that is the same as any topical product. Reading your list it seems to be referring to neem oil taken by mouth rather than topically though, so worth researching side-effects of topical application as well. It is similar to many essential oils, they all have to be used carefully and carry risks associated with them.
 
dollyanna said:
Good point, keep an eye out for any reactions but that is the same as any topical product. Reading your list it seems to be referring to neem oil taken by mouth rather than topically though, so worth researching side-effects of topical application as well. It is similar to many essential oils, they all have to be used carefully and carry risks associated with them.
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Yes it is easy to forget that essential oils can have many side effects-did not want anyone pregnant or breast feeding slapping the stuff about whilst being unaware of the risks
 
Good thinking, will check side effects before starting to use it! Although I'm pretty sure I'm not pregnant (the hubby would be in for a shock!) it's better to know what your using!
 
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