Next door are getting a puppy ?

[Cinnamontoast]

They said they’ll check the fencing. It’s very rickety and has holes. My lot don’t try to go through (holes aren’t huge, just enough to see through, that would be fun!). I don’t know whose responsibility it is, I know the left as you go out is typically yours, but this has been disproved lots on mumsnet. Anyhow, we are going to chicken wire it to ensure it’s 100%. We did this on the opposite side, it’s all hidden by trees, but proper Fort Knox! I‘d never forgive myself if the pup got through, Zak would eat it. It’s a yorkie x mini poodle.

We’ll block all holes and replace panels as needed, obviously. Both boys will go nuts at the inevitable squeaky toys!

 

[CorvusCorax]

I've had dogs on the other side of the fence and my dogs have never shown any acknowledgement, even when it was four cockers hurling themselves at the fence.
I can hear the resident poor thing now barking and yowling at nothing in particular.

Fence running/fighting is one of my most hated habits ? bleeds into so many other aspects of training.

 

[neddy man]

If you have access to view your deeds the boundaries that you own and are responsible for have a squiggle a bit like a miss shape letter S through the boundry line, if no squiggle your neighbour owns the boundary and is responsible for its maintenance.

 

[Clodagh]

I think you are right in taking responsibility yourself. A pooieyork in Zaks's garden, with Zak, doesn't bear thinking about!

 

[MyBoyChe]

hehe, or even a mini yorkiepoo!! When we first moved into our house it had that builders mesh link fencing, 3ft high either side. At the time both neighbours had small children and the first thing we did was have 6ft proper upright panel fencing all the way round, the last thing I needed was the little darlings poking fingers through then yelping about being bitten!! The newer neighbours on one side have 2 little yorkies and my lot dont even flicker when they decide to have a yapping session

 

[Cinnamontoast]

I've had dogs on the other side of the fence and my dogs have never shown any acknowledgement, even when it was four cockers hurling themselves at the fence.
I can hear the resident poor thing now barking and yowling at nothing in particular.

Fence running/fighting is one of my most hated habits ? bleeds into so many other aspects of training.

Are yours DA, tho, CC? Fence running absolutely won’t be allowed. I refuse to allow them to disturb the neighbours. They sometimes run out in response to the terrier behind the shed, but they don’t bark. They used to go nuts at the neighbour’s son’s dog who was the one that attacked Zak for no reason, luckily the fencing was good and they were always brought in immediately. I don’t know why he had to bring it round, he knew fine well that my 3 hated it. Dunno, I found it inconsiderate and his dog also was stressed, clearly, going nuts on his side.

If you have access to view your deeds the boundaries that you own and are responsible for have a squiggle a bit like a miss shape letter S through the boundry line, if no squiggle your neighbour owns the boundary and is responsible for its maintenance.

Tbh, we’ll be ensuring it’s Fort Knox, the consequences of the pup getting in here would be awful. Minimum 5 feet high, all gaps repaired, panels replaced so no view of next door. The length is currently covered in ivy, I’ll be careful re nests, we can put the wire a couple of feet in front without losing any useable space.

I think you are right in taking responsibility yourself. A pooieyork in Zaks's garden, with Zak, doesn't bear thinking about!

Quite! When the neighbour had her GSD still, it was lovely, they grew up with her and got on very well. A new dog wouldn’t be accepted, even if we did introductions, I think.

Butter wouldn’t melt, I know!

 

[CorvusCorax]

Are yours DA, tho, CC? Fence running absolutely won’t be allowed. I refuse to allow them to disturb the neighbours. They sometimes run out in response to the terrier behind the shed, but they don’t bark. They used to go nuts at the neighbour’s son’s dog who was the one that attacked Zak for no reason, luckily the fencing was good and they were always brought in immediately. I don’t know why he had to bring it round, he knew fine well that my 3 hated it. Dunno, I found it inconsiderate and his dog also was stressed, clearly, going nuts on his side.

One is fine with other dogs, the other ignores, but they've genuinely never even flicked an ear at what happens over the fence. Out the front, they do stand at the gate if other dogs pass and have a good look and the nice one will say hi/touch noses at best or hackle up and do a Big Boy Woof at worst. The aloof one will just hold his ball and watch them.

It can bleed into DA for dogs who are allowed do it. Barrier frustration and 'hold me back, hold me back' type stuff can boil over when the barrier is removed.
The GSD behind us (stressed and going nuts on her side) rushes other dogs and air snaps when out/off lead.
I do feel sorry for her as she seems so insecure.
One comes to training who was allowed to run the fence at home and she is hyper alert to the presence of other dogs as she always feels the need to protect herself, she even alerts on dogs in other vehicles and she spends any time in her own vehicle gobbing off.
It's more of a musing/general reading lol.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Believe me, he has never been allowed!
It’s a whole different kettle of fish with a very DA dog. Zak is hugely fear reactive. He won’t go up to other dogs but if they get in his face, there will be a fight and he won’t stop until he’s had a proper go because he’s bloody terrified. He’s had several trainers, (one from Tv who gave up cos he just didn’t how to help), one of whom is a gun dog specialist and has her own DA dog.

We have tried so hard and for so long to solve the issue. After years of trying, we prefer to keep him and other dogs safe. His brother is dog neutral but backs up Zak, the difference being that Bear stops as soon as he’s told and ignores dogs when he’s out alone. They are extremely happy, affectionate dogs, they thoroughly love life, bar Zak being DA\fear reactive and having to do paranoid checks for other dogs before sending him on a retrieve! It’s been a very steep learning curve after having 2 totally dog neutral boys.

They probably (hopefully!) won’t be bothered about the puppy, they certainly won’t be allowed to behave poorly/fence run. They reacted to Archie because they knew who he was and he wasn’t normally there. We have a month to fence proof. I’ll do pics!

 

[CorvusCorax]

Yep, I've had/dealt with multiple large DA dogs, mostly down to insecurity, one of mine ignores dogs unless they get in his face and then he will tell them to do one, but he's generally on a lead/has a ball in his mouth. He just wants them to go away and has no requirement/is not allowed to follow it through with anything worse, I can handle him.

He doesnt display the behaviour at home, as he doesn't see passing/next door dogs as a threat/anything to worry about.
Hopefully your guys will be the same

 

[GSD Woman]

Sounds like you're doing everything that you can. My neighbor thinks it is funny to let his small dog run the fence with my dogs. I stop it. Sometimes I spray the dogs, mostly his, oops. Thus far I'm not seeing any bleed over. I don't know if Rudy would have it as his age and Freddie is going through one of THOSE phases so who knows. Sunny was managing to get out of the house when I was at work and getting out of the fence. Between the fact that she was hunting my one neighbor's cats and wanted to kill the other, irresponsible, neighbor's dog I felt it was best to rehome her. Her breeder stepped up, as I knew she would, and found her a home with a retired couple who adores her.

 

[Moobli]

With serious DA there is often no "cure" just management strategies. In your position, I would also be proactive in dog-proofing the fence so the new puppy can't get through, as even though it may not be your reponsibility, I've no doubt you wouldn't want to see it hurt or worse.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Just been round to the other neighbour’s garden for a social distance visit-her back garden is accessed from the drive via a gate. She reminded us that she often has her grandson and his cockerpoo round and the boys haven’t reacted to that bar when squeaky toys are being used and then all they do is run out, listen for a second then lose interest.