Nice horse, dodgy dealer.

Own vet did the vetting and didnt pick anything up, bloods were fine. It's one of those situations were even though the horse seems great I just can't trust the person who is selling it!
 
Lolita said:
Own vet did the vetting and didnt pick anything up, bloods were fine. It's one of those situations were even though the horse seems great I just can't trust the person who is selling it!
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I would. Have done before. A dealer can be dodgy and actually have a few nice horses... plus it was your own vet who looked at it.
 
It's not always the horses fault it's ended up with a dealer. They can get good horses in too. Will they let you have it on trial? If not could you handle/ride it more at the yard it's on so you get a good feel of the horse before you bring it home?
 
I think in this situation I would. Your vet has 5 stage vetted it and taken bloods. Ensure the sales receipts and all paper work is correct and enjoy the new horse. Can totally understand your concerns though. Good luck and dont forget pics :D
 
Get a very detailed receipt, write one yourself at home if you have too, add what you have been told about him add in the advert on the same bit of paper and both sign with a witness each. Add on addresses and phone numbers too.
 
Didnt know who was selling him as this is for my niece who found the horse online. I got my vet out to him to make sure he didn't have any problems and he doesn't but I think I would feel responsible if he turned out to be a wrong un! :/
 
Personally, I wouldn't. Agree that dealers may well have some good horses but I wouldn't take the risk, as they are going to be no help if you run into problems. There are so many horses on the market, I'm sure you can find a good un from a more reliable seller. This won't be the only horse that fits the bill.

I think taking a bit more time now is likely to pay off in spades later down the line. I now how frustrating it can be but imagine how much worse it would be if it's not right.
 
Lolita said:
Didnt know who was selling him as this is for my niece who found the horse online. I got my vet out to him to make sure he didn't have any problems and he doesn't but I think I would feel responsible if he turned out to be a wrong un! :/
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At the end of the day we never really know what we're buying - which is why we take an experienced eye with us and have a horse vetted.

So, if the horse ticked all the right boxes, had passed a vetting, and was what the purchaser was looking for then I would buy.
 
Plus, someone who is a dealer has to meet more legal guidelines when selling than a private seller - by law you are better protected as horse has to be sold 'fit for purpose' and 'as described' rather than with private sellers...
 
Absolutely not .

Vettings are a snapshot on the day and a dodgy dealer is known as that for a reason and they only get a reputation after more than one problem horse sold.
 
In theory you are better legally protected , in reality is a dodgy dealer going to be worried about the law. They just change names and move on to the next victim .

I know a couple of people who bought from a dealer and were tied up for the most stressful year of their life trying to get justice.

Ar the end of the day there are honest people out there, save your money and emotion for them. There's more than one nice horse out there.
 
If I went ahead I would ensure I got a detailed receipt outlining what the horse was sold for, vice free etc.

and depends on cost of horse of course as to whether I could take a chance and be prepared to loose the purchase price if I decided that having it out with the dealer at a later date was too much effort.
 
depends on how and why its a dodgy dealer...some good dealers reputations are ruined by prats who go around with rumours just cos they simply dont like dealers!!
 
Could you get the horse on a trial period? Or perhaps pay an unexpected visit to see it?

I think, if it was me, it would depend on what sort of dishonesty has been alleged. If it was "horse not exactly as advertised" or "refusal to take horse back" then I may give it the benifit of the doubt as there are often to sides to a story. If it was something serious which may actually constitute fraud or something welfare related, then I would give it a miss. There are so many horses on the market.
 
A dodgy dealer I knew of sold a couple of cracking horses to two friends of mine. Don't forget that the person who sold them to the dealer may not have known about their reputation or just didn't care because they wanted rid quickly. That doesn't mean to say there is anything wrong with the horse. If you are concerned, what is the age of the horse? A younger one is a bit less likely to have physical or behavioural issues.
 
Knowing its a dodgy dealer gives you a slight advantage, you know not to bother listening to anything they say & take horse at face value. Do every test you can think of for temperament - ride it alone, with others, take it away from others on ride, check with traffic etc etc. I've had a good horse from a "dodgy dealer" & a bad one from a private sale. I thought the owner seemed genuine, but clearly told me a pack of lies, horse took ages to sort.
 
I can't believe people happy to keep dodgy dealers in business . You may be lucky to get a horse without problems and as described but what about the poor people that come after you.

Condoning crooks Is never an option IMO . The horse world needs cleaning up not supporting .
 
I "accidentally" bought Catembi from a dealer who advertises to buy problem horses. (Didn't realise at the time...d'oh.) Therefore he was probably someone else's problem horse! He was my horse of a lifetime & I wish I could have cloned him & ridden nothing but Catembis for the rest of my life! He was an absolute superstar.

He was def not a novice ride, but in the sense that if you sat there quietly & ignored any antics without getting in a flap, he would unknot himself.

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Yes.
I'm only there to buy from the dealer, not marry him.

Exception would be if the horses were neglected or abused. I'd then involve the animal welfare department from the local council and check if improvements had been made. I turn my back a good horse. Or even a mediocre one really.
 
khalswitz said:
I would. Have done before. A dealer can be dodgy and actually have a few nice horses... plus it was your own vet who looked at it.
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Agree, if it's passed a vetting by an independent vet then you are surely there's not much potential for being scammed out of your money?

I don't get why you'd pay ~£300 for a vetting and THEN ask whether you want to buy it as it's from a dodgy dealer...
 
BBH said:
I can't believe people happy to keep dodgy dealers in business . You may be lucky to get a horse without problems and as described but what about the poor people that come after you.

Condoning crooks Is never an option IMO . The horse world needs cleaning up not supporting .
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