NO FULL TBs!!!!

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Why don't people want TBs??? looking for a loan home for my TB mare and almost every advert i see (looks perfect for mare) they say at the end no rearers, nappers, bucks or full TBs!! :mad:
 
Having been one of those people who used to turn down TBs but now I love them I can see both sides of the story.
There is a huge misconception of TBs that they are all skinny, skatty and just a pain to keep when the truth is you can get good and bad ones.

I suppose people also don't want horses that have been raced in case they have an injury or it shortens there riding life span. There are also some badly bred ones as breeding didn't use to be as well regulated.

Personally now I would jump to have another TB but I can see why people are put off them because they have a big misconception.
 
I think people are quite sensible not wanting a full TB - they are the Ferrari's of the horse world and if you are a learner driver, you'd be more likely to crash a Ferrari than a Corsa

I have both and wouldn't want anything other than a TB for speed sports, but also think I see a lot of people with TB's when they really need something slower and steadier.
 
For me personally, the first share I had was a tbx and got on really well with him, second share was a full tb and just too naturally nervous/ excitable for me. Destroyed my confidence so when I was looking I was definitely in the no full tbs group. But like has been said above, not all are the same. I also wanted something that could winter out but am aware that a number of tbs do!

Just think i'm one of those people who end up with a bit of a pre-conceived idea, think i'd got so terrified I just wanted nothing to do with a full tb again. Then again, if it hadn't have said full tb in the ad and i'd gone to view and got on well I probably wouldn't have given it a second thought :o
 
I personally wouldn't want a TB because in my (admittedly, very limited!) experience they have bad feet, aren't good doers and are stress heads.

I suppose it's similar to asking why people don't want cobs - nowt wrong with having a personal preference!
 
Jen_Cots said:
I think people are quite sensible not wanting a full TB - they are the Ferrari's of the horse world and if you are a learner driver, you'd be more likely to crash a Ferrari than a Corsa

I have both and wouldn't want anything other than a TB for speed sports, but also think I see a lot of people with TB's when they really need something slower and steadier.
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I don't agree fully with this as all TBs are different. My never-sat-on-a-horse-before BF learnt to ride on my TB who we got straight out of racing, and she was great with him.
 
I've specified no TBs in my search to buy a horse. Personally I quite like them, I used to share an ex-racer and she was good as gold, we only ever had on brake failure and she stopped when she got to the point where she thought she should stop! She was fine in traffic and hacked alone. She was good in the stable although tricky to catch. Generally though she was no more trouble than the Section D I shared later.

However I'm looking to share with my DH and neither of us have ever come across a full TB that he would be comfortable on. They simply don't take up enough leg, he has very long legs. And he looks at them and thinks they won't be up to his weight with their skinny legs. He can be slightly nervous too and on that basis I wouldn't risk getting a TB and wrecking his confidence.

If I was looking just for me though I would have been in touch with the ex-racer charities by now.
 
I would guess that lots of people associate TB's with skinny racehorses, therefore think that they're all super fast, scatty and hard to keep weight on. Whilst i know some are like that, some are the complete opposite but people dont tend to see those! Personally, i've never had a horse that hasn't had some TB in it (one 1/2 TB, one 1/4 TB, 2 full breds and one 3/4) Not intentionally at the time, but looking back there certainly seems to be a pattern emerging :D I agree that the majority of full TB's aren't for the novice rider but there are exceptions. My friends TB gelding restored much of my confidence out hacking after a Fjord destroyed pretty much all i had! He was the safest, steadiest horse i'd ever rode and was only just 5 at the time and had been in training (wasn't fast enough! :p ) I think you just have to take each horse as you find it and judge it on it's own merits. I'm sure you'll find someone for your girl soon :)
 
Jen_Cots said:
I think people are quite sensible not wanting a full TB - they are the Ferrari's of the horse world and if you are a learner driver, you'd be more likely to crash a Ferrari than a Corsa
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My thoughts exactly, TBs are fantastic horses but can be very easy to wind up and very difficult to calm down. IMO this is as much when they are being handled on the ground as when they are being ridden.
 
It wouldnt bother me now.
I had a full TB who was scatty with terrible feet, was difficult to put and keep weight on and also any slight cut would mean big swollen legs and vets bills. I swore no more full TB's so I then went to a shire x tb, best horse I ever owned, she was forward going but sensible, a good doer and just so much more low maintenance. I now have a shire x ID x TB and hes probably the quirkiest horse ever, never a dull moment :eek:, low maintenance but hard work as well.
So I dont think it matters what breed you have, they are all so individual.
 
I think some people genuinely have had back luck, and it happened to be a TB.

The only horses who I've had to prematurely retire, have been ex-racehorses. Although I think their earlier lifestyle, rather than their breed were the reasons behind the unsoundness and the problems with all the horses I've had. I currently have a 10 year old 17.2hh who was racing as a 3 year old. I had full x-rays taken last year, and his skeletal frame is in a very bad way, and purely because such a big horse was in too much work, far too young.

IMO it's a misconception about TBs being sharper than other breeds. I've known just as many warmbloods, ISH's, etc who are habitual dragon hunters and have the attention span of a knat, and are often more bargy than a TB. Most of the TBs I've known have very biddable temperaments.
 
We have a lot of full TB (mostly ex racers) at our yard. I hate to make a generalisation but it has to be said that the majority of them are at some level a bit quirky (including my own one) The fact that there are a lot of them though is testament to how much people love them. Out of about 40 horses they make up the vast majority.

With regard to the Ferrari thing that is exactly what a very knowledgeable person said to me about my daughter's TB when she was struggling with her in the very early days and I wouldn't let her move to a place with more facilities/get more instruction. She said to me "Basically you have bought her a Ferrari to pootle down to the corner shop-either sell it or move it to a place with some facilities and get her some more work and regular instruction"
 
ive had a tb.... tbx id.... and a warmblood x cob

the warmblood x idea of a spook is "omg.... *thinks*...... then react"

the tb dumped me in 0.5 seconds when spooked

the idxtb broncs.......


guess which one i still have lol! :D

so yeah i do like tb's but i prefer the stockier/more placid ones but i guess that comes down to "the type of person the horse is"....


ets - i dont hate tb's and im sure yours is lovely..... but like me.... people have their reasons why they state no tb's!...
 
I choose my then 4 yr old TB over a 15.1 12yr old coloured Irish sports horse because he was so so much nicer. Our TB's are easy, calm and nicer then the Ish's I've had and my welshxarab.
However if someone doesn't want a Tb then fair enough, I wouldn't want a cob and I would specifically say I dont want a heavy breed. Nothing wrong with cobs just not for me and some people feel the same way about TB's.
If I was looking for a home for my Tb I know that someone knowledgeable would know a good horse when they see one and tbh if they were the type of person to put 'no full tb's. I would assume they are not good enough for my beautifully mannered horse anyway, I wouldn't want him ruined.
I'd rather see novices on suitable novice horses then kid themselves they will be ok with a hot blooded, well bred, intelligent horse wether that be a TB, WB or well bred ISH.
If they are turning down a TB just because of prejudices over TB's then they are missing out ;), I hope they enjoy being beaten when they meet out tb's out at competitions ;)
 
having a tb myself, I would definately say that he can be occasionaly querky, but so can any horse. Saying that, I wouldn't get another pure tb because I don't think I would be able to give them the work that they require. I definately think that they are a breed that need their brains occupying.

But there is so much sterotyping out there- cobs are fat and lazy, tbs are all ditsy and mad, etc etc. But I don't think you can fit any horse into a category like that, there are far too many variations in type.
 
This is true Bush Baby. The reason that I thought a TB was good for my daughter coming off ponies is that we knew quite a few people that had them and they all seemed so laid back about life. I failed to look at the variables though :D
 
skint1 said:
We have a lot of full TB (mostly ex racers) at our yard. I hate to make a generalisation but it has to be said that the majority of them are at some level a bit quirky (including my own one) The fact that there are a lot of them though is testament to how much people love them. Out of about 40 horses they make up the vast majority.

With regard to the Ferrari thing that is exactly what a very knowledgeable person said to me about my daughter's TB when she was struggling with her in the very early days and I wouldn't let her move to a place with more facilities/get more instruction. She said to me "Basically you have bought her a Ferrari to pootle down to the corner shop-either sell it or move it to a place with some facilities and get her some more work and regular instruction"
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I can honestly say our 2 boys aren't quirky in the slightest. My mums a nervous 50yr old lady and she has been placed every time out BD with her ex-racer qualifying for regionals ect. He safely carries her around mini showjumping and xc and they have been placed county showing. We gallop upside each other out in a big field on a long rein and then hack back at a walk on the buckle chatting.
My late mare ex-racer I had for 5 years and never fell off her. Current baby ex-racer has also kept me onboard and is the loveliest laid-back generous horse. Out hacking over gallops my friends cob was spinning, trying to take off and running backwards and my racer was watching her while plodding along and it felt like he was saying 'your naughty, you should
walk quietly like me ;)'. I can do anything with my Tb, I adore him.
I think TB's like any breed of well any horse actually can go wrong in the wrong hands.
 
Oooh don't get me started on breed stereotypes! I used to own an ex racer TB mare. She didn't look like a full TB, good doer (got cresty in the summer) and only ever had front shoes on, what more could you want?
I now have a totally non spooky and intelligent warmblood mare.
You get good and bad in EVERY breed. I go horse hunting and buy a horse because I LIKE it not because of the BREED.
Sorry it really makes my blood boil, phew, rant over!! :D
 
A TB would be first choice.

But there not everyone's cup of tea, for many a good reason too in some cases but a lot do get tared with the same brush due to other people's bad experiences many of which is purely down to the owners and not the horse.
 
Personal preference- I wouldn't touch a TB with shitty stick ( had one, didn't click).....doesn't mean I'm a novice or incapable, as some of you seem to be suggesting. I simply prefer arabs....another 'marmite' breed:p

Each to their own.....if someone posted 'Why won't anyone loan my cob?' you'd have dozens of 'cobs are great posts'.

Theres nothing wrong with either your horse OP, or the people that don't want to loan/share/buy her......
 
I personally wouldn't bother trying to convince someone they should like something they already have a definate opinion of - tis not fair on the horse.
I think at one time I probably had a pre conceived notion of TB's. Then I ended up with my ex racer. In some ways he is quirky and very 'TB'. On the other hand my OH has ridden him several times and he hasn't sat on anything else! He has hacked him along grass tracks. But I wouldn't put any novice on him without me being on the floor! He isnt typically TB to handle - generally quiet and mannerly and OH can do everything he needs to do with him. However he can be silly when he wants to be.
I dont think he has particularly changed my opinion of TB's. It has confirmed to me that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover. It doesn't matter the horses breeding, its the personality which you need to get along with.
 
Damnation said:
Oooh don't get me started on breed stereotypes! I used to own an ex racer TB mare. She didn't look like a full TB, good doer (got cresty in the summer) and only ever had front shoes on, what more could you want?
I now have a totally non spooky and intelligent warmblood mare.
You get good and bad in EVERY breed. I go horse hunting and buy a horse because I LIKE it not because of the BREED.
Sorry it really makes my blood boil, phew, rant over!! :D
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*nods in agreement*

I didn't want a 4yr old TB (was more bothered about the 4yr old thing than anything else, but was put off by TB's/ex racehorses). Guess what I bought - a 4yr old TB fresh from racing as he was a sweetie and I felt comfortable with him :D
He's a bit more lively now he's up to weight but still wouldn't swap him and it's proof that you shouldn't listen to stereotyping ;)
Prev horse was a TB x Cob who had interesting cob days and them TB days, could be entertaining going sideways on a 16.3 4yo lunatic!
 
my personal feeling is that alot of the TBs i know, have probelsm with their feet/legs. for that reason, i wouldnt buy one. they are lovely horses though and very friendly. just have legs like glass :)
 
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marmalade76 said:
I love TBs, but would not want another simply because they cost so much to feed. Quite happy to have another TB x native though.
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Sorry but have to disagree with this my full TB is on calm and condition and she has had the same bag since the 2nd Jan and there is still a good weeks worth left :)

She gets 1/4 of a scoop of C and C, soaked obv, then half scoop mollichaff and 1/4 scoop of sugar beet, and tbh my friends cob eats more :eek::eek:
 
Don't waste your breathe thinking or worrying about it. Limiting themselves to certain types/breeds is their loss.
I just laugh when I hear the 'tb's have bad feet/poor doers/stressheads/bolters/unsuitable for novices/expensive to feed' crud. Yes, some are. Some cobs are too. Some 11hh lead rein ponies are too. These people who have decided they know everything would never suit an intelligent tb anyway. But let's not bother trying to persuade them otherwise. It'll be our gain, send them all to me!!
OP, good luck with rehoming, shout if I can help.
 
I have a full TB and is the exact opposite of every stereotype. Has the best feet I've ever known on a horse (i could count the number of cast shoes in the last 5 years on one hand). Is a good doer to the extreme and isn't spooky, scared of nothing. He taught my partner to ride without incident who had never sat on a horse before and also has multiple sclerosis.
I think it is a misconception is that they are 'quirky', 'nutters' etc. However, they are much more sensitive to the rider/handler than other breeds and therefore much more likely and quicker to react to a situation.
 
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