No Passport - What Do I do?

Sir_Gwain

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I bought a 9yo from a lady about 5 months ago. His passport still has not turned up. She says her dad has it but hes out off the country and she does no know when he will be back.

As I have lots off competitions lined up over the next few months I need a passport to travel, and to update all my innoculations etc.

I have tried ringing the BSJA where Owen was supposedly registered but they have no record off him.

Its entirley possible he has never had a passport.

What can I do?
 
There's a wonderful invention that's been around for a few years now called a telephone - perhaps the lady call call her father on one to see where the passport is??
 
Phone the lady again and ask her to telephone her father and get the passport registration number and the name of the passport issuing authority. Then you can ring the passport issuers and check the horse does actually have one.
 
personally i wopuld contact her again and suggest she buy a replacement passport. Can she not phone her father and have him send the original back?

Remind her that it is illegal to sell a horse without a passport......
 
Me thinks it doesnt have one
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I'm in email contact with Charley, the lady, her father is not in the country and her parents are seperated.

I have asked for the passport ID number, what name he was registred under (The BSJA). What shows he has jumped BSJA affiliated at, His show name.

Ive phoned the BSJA, but as you can imagine there are a lot of Connemara x Irish draughts called Owen registered with them.

Its a bummer
 
I think its a load of tosh. If you only bought 5 months ago then the horses passport should have been with him, surely any seller would have known that and arranged with her absent father to have it reunited with the horse.

Sorry but I would start again and get the horse passported yourself. It wouldnt take me 5 months to phone my Dad and he doesnt live in the UK either.

I know he shouldnt have 2 passports but you cannot actually prove he has 1!!
 
In my opinion, this is what makes passports nothing more than a joke. I know of someone who bought a horse from a "reputable" dealer who just happened to have lost the passport! Horse turned out to be blind in one eye! If you can just ring up and get a replacement, it's all a bit of a paper excercise, isn't it? Would definitely ring her back and remind her that it is an offence to sell a horse without a passport and that you intend to take it further. Might just concentrate her mind!
 
I echo that Tremorfa.....contact Trading Standards and defra. I truly doubt this horse actually has a passport at all.
 
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you could just try and apply for a new passport... although im not sure if they issue them to new owners because of horse thefts....

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Yes they will - another reason why the system is flawed.
 
Tell her that you need the passport in the next week or you are going to have to apply for another. Then remind her that it was illegal for her to sell you the horse without a passport, so you hope she doesnt think youre paying for it. Would at least give her an incentive to get the current one to you if it does exist.
 
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Then remind her that it was illegal for her to sell you the horse without a passport, so you hope she doesnt think youre paying for it

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What's the point? This deal was done 5 months ago. The passport should have been produced on the day the horse was looked at and the viewer should have asked to see it there and then.

Do you really think the seller will now cough up the £100 odd quid to get a new one.

Another one of lifes lessons.

That's two today!
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Then remind her that it was illegal for her to sell you the horse without a passport, so you hope she doesnt think youre paying for it

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What's the point? This deal was done 5 months ago. The passport should have been produced on the day the horse was looked at and the viewer should have asked to see it there and then.

Do you really think the seller will now cough up the £100 odd quid to get a new one.

Another one of lifes lessons.

That's two today!
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Better than her having to cough up £5000 for not having one at all
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Sounds a bit dodgy to me, I some how think there may not be one. Probably worth getting one done yourself?

Lesson learnt; don’t drive the horse away without passport in your hand!!!
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Hi All,

Thanks for all the comments.

I have managed to motivate her and i should have one in a few days. Apparently shes gonna fast track it through the horsepassportagaency.

Funny that, I contacted the Horse Passport Agency by email and they sent back a big missive saying a load off stuff about it being illegal etc, I then forwarded that to her stating that she needs to declare se never had a passport so i could apply for a new one.

Legal stuff is a great motivator i find
 
i bought a horse 18 months ago and the dealer told me the passport had been lost in the post. he gave me her bsja name and reg no. i phoned the bsja and as they had seen the passport with breeding when the mare was first registered they issued me a bsja passport for £15. i am not sure but i thought you had to have a passport to register with the bsja
 
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