No Such Thing As A Coloured Racehorse?

Join The Dots has already made his debut, he raced last year Fontwell 11/5/11 but finished last, hopefully he will have improved this year because he is lovely :D
 
Coloured race horses seem to be like Marmite!
I personally love them, though colour doesn't matter to me so long as it does the job and is a nice horse!
 
TallulahBright said:
I have a gorgeous 4yr old skewbald 7/8 TB 1/8 ID... Bucks the colour trend on both fronts! I was told recently that she couldn't be bred that way and be coloured but.... She is!!
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My coloured's grandsire Lucky Dealer is also a coloured 7/8th TB and has sired a lot of coloured almost-pure TBs. His owner at the time also bred a couple of coloured 31/32nd TBs. They are out there but more commonly bred/ registered as sporthorses, I think :)
 
are they any good though as racehorses though ;) :p. I have to admit to not really seeing the point in having coloured racehorses if they can't run fast enough :D
 
Angrovestud's coloured boy is in training too, so he's another coloured racehorse to look out for :)

ETS: dur, he's already mentioned in the article. He is lush though! :)
 
Every multi coloured horse that has raced has been shockingly bad at the job. And I'm not holding out much hope for the next generation of coloured racehorses. Sorry.
 
ester said:
are they any good though as racehorses though ;) :p. I have to admit to not really seeing the point in having coloured racehorses if they can't run fast enough :D
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well it does make you wonder if they're ever going to manage to produce a successful one! Coloured TB's ( well almost a TB) have been about for a few years now but no one has managed to produce one of any calibre which has taken the racetrack by storm.
 
charlyan said:
My coloured's grandsire Lucky Dealer is also a coloured 7/8th TB and has sired a lot of coloured almost-pure TBs. His owner at the time also bred a couple of coloured 31/32nd TBs. They are out there but more commonly bred/ registered as sporthorses, I think :)
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Our boy DJ was by Lucky Dealer and was out of a CHAPS reg mare. DJ was completley dark bay though! :confused:
 
Madam Min said:
Our boy DJ was by Lucky Dealer and was out of a CHAPS reg mare. DJ was completley dark bay though! :confused:
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Unusual to have two coloured parents with a solid foal! I know a lot of the foals Linda bred by him were solid but they generally had a solid coat dam :)

Lucky did produce a lot of solid colour stock too, although they were all eligible for CHAPS registration.

Out of curiousity, DJ wasn't bred in the Northeast of Scotland, was he? Either by Linda Sutherland (Turriff) or Frank Turnock(?sp) at Littlehill?
(looking at the dates on your sig :( )
 
jinglejoys said:
I dare say there are more non coloured failures than coloured, ask the racehorse rescue people ;)
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Of course there are! Coloured racehorses are so few and far between that my own herd of shetlands outnumbers them! Plus people will buy a failed coloured racehorse because it is a novelty - not because they can actually ride or control it.

The Bay Overo that is running at the weekend, Modern Society, is by the American Bay Overo - I Was Framed. This horse has never ran a race. Was bought over to Britain for silly money as a novelty to produce coloured stock for racing that will catchpeople eye - a bit of a money spinner to be fair. Now this would have worked if the British Racing Industry was a complete bunch of numpties. They would have bought into it thinking that they will be ground breakers. But they aren't! The breeders of racehorses over here know their stuff, are more old fashioned and more than likely wouldn't touch him with a 10ft barge pole. Which they didn't. He had very few foals in Britain, stood her for 2 or 3 years and now he has been shipped to France. A complete failure and a waste of money for the job he was bought for.
 
charlyan said:
Unusual to have two coloured parents with a solid foal! I know a lot of the foals Linda bred by him were solid but they generally had a solid coat dam :)

Lucky did produce a lot of solid colour stock too, although they were all eligible for CHAPS registration.

Out of curiousity, DJ wasn't bred in the Northeast of Scotland, was he? Either by Linda Sutherland (Turriff) or Frank Turnock(?sp) at Littlehill?
(looking at the dates on your sig :( )
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He was bred by a Mrs J E Hindley in Glazebury, Warrington, his first reg owner was a farrier called DJ Capper from whom he was named after on his passport.

He was 17.hh (like Lucky Dealer) and did have a very "throroughbredy" face and although he was tall, he had quite small neat feet. DJ is the horse on the right in my avatar
 
Madam Min said:
He was bred by a Mrs J E Hindley in Glazebury, Warrington, his first reg owner was a farrier called DJ Capper from whom he was named after on his passport.

He was 17.hh (like Lucky Dealer) and did have a very "throroughbredy" face and although he was tall, he had quite small neat feet. DJ is the horse on the right in my avatar
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Ah right. Good looking lad- my boy has tiny feet for his size too :)
I just wondered if he had been bred in Scotland as that was where Lucky stood round about 2002. Linda is trying to track down more of her foals that she has lost track of over the years. She owned Lucky from a yearling upto 2002 when he was sold to the Littlehill stud. Thanks :)
 
Merry Crisis said:
I think there was a colt by "Ive Been Framed" sold at Tatts December sales for £17,000. I think its too silly for words. Race horses cost a lot of money to be in training and I really cant see the point of breeding a NTB registered horse, a one off coloured, in the tiny chance that it will hold its own in the highly competetive world of racing. Racing is very much old school in this country and I dont think that trainers would welcome a coloured horse into their yards. It is making a mockery of racing.
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My sentiments exactly.
 
I went to see Angrove Rumbaba today at the Middleham Open Day. I was disappointed. He had cordons around his stable so you couldn't actually see in to have a proper look at him (there weren't cordons around the other horses). I heard someone ask the girl who was outside his stable whether he was 100% pure TB and she replied that he was (according to Angrovestud who posts on here he is 87.5%). From just looking at him from the outside of the stable he doesn't have a TB head - although while we were there, he spent most of his time attempting to bite the girl looking after him while she playfully punched him on the nose. Pity we couldn't get a closer look.
 
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I thought you might like to know that not all trainers are worried about coloured racehorse some like our trainer is very happy to give our lad a try on the track as they have shown enough talent to be run this boy did us proud as he lead a 13 strong string through Middleham this morning and on to the gallops and home again he loved it and so did the many crowds that came to see him which I would like to thank for coming to see him it was great to meet you all!
Sorry Hollyhocks but he was behind a barrier because there a children who run up to them and could get hurt, he and another colt were both behind bales of shavings to stop the Public some of whom are not horse people from getting to close it is a H& S reason with any known horse that can nip
The girl outside his stable is a jockey and she knows hes in the NTR and he is registered with weatherbys
 
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Merry Crisis, Life is a challenge and I believe in our Horse and so does our trainer thats enough for me ! and its been a 20 year dream to do it, thats why I am the only woman to win British Invention of year! because I can dream and you all may think I mad but thats no worry to me, I saw faces love what they saw today and I saw smiles and people who came to see something new and exciting and that made me feel good thats priceless

As you can see the two colts where behind bales to keep people safe now if you all dont mind we have been up since 5.30 and I going for my Tea
 
I had the pleasure if seeing Angrove Rumbaba today, he was very handsome indeed, had a great day, many thanks to the owners and trainers its much appreiciated being able to look round all their yards.
 
The day a coloured racehorse actually wins a flat race in this country I will literally eat my hat! Jumping may be a different kettle of fish, and I could understand in certain circumstances just by being a good jumper a horse could win - but on the flat - these horses just don't have the pedigree to be any good.

I also do not understand the fascination with attempting to race coloured horses. Friends of mine bred their TB broodmare with a coloured TB stallion (possibly I Was Framed) but they have no intention of ever trying to race the horse, rather they will break it in at 4 and sell on as a riding horse - albeit one with two wall eyes and very dramatic leg markings.

You can breed a black type mare with a top flight stallion and still produce horses that are incapable of winning races... breeding for colour on top of that - seems doomed for failure.

Now I love grey horses, and have been fortunate to work with quite a few very successful grey racehorses... but that certainly doesn't mean I would only want to try and breed greys!
 
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