No way way I'd have a my 6 year old on this!

Shysmum said:
I've not read any other posts on this, but I have seen this video before.

Shocking that the lad is allowed to continue. But all I can thing is - GIVE ME AN HOUR WITH THAT PONY !!!!

First, I would get an expert to check that saddle, and someone to check his back and teeth. If ok, despite being way to big for him, boy would the b***** learn some manners and PDQ .

All that pony is fit for atm is Tesco.
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Really?!!!

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Shysmum said:
If ok, despite being way to big for him, boy would the b***** learn some manners and PDQ . That pony is just crying out for a good rider to show him the light. Would be sooooooooooo rewarding !

All that pony is fit for atm is Tesco.
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Yeah, because an over sized rider with something to prove is what every naughty pony needs isn't it.... This type of attitude is why the Parelli's became so popular with people looking for a better way.

As for the Tesco comment - well thats a kids pride and joy your talking about, steady on eh?
 
hahahahaha, moomin, kidding right ! yes about the checks, but if I got on him, the poor b***** tummy would be on the floor - might not be a bad move tho ;)

Oh dear, has my SOH died a death here tonight. Naughty Shysmum, slap, slap. Do I need to whisk my back with twigs now ?
 
But the clever ones know that big riders can make them behave, but the little ones can't. Smokes was foot perfect for any bigger rider who got on him straight away, because he knew he would be fighting a losing battle. Having someone in the arena/ near them who was of suitable pony-squishing size was enough to get relative nice-ness out of him. But once they were alone in the arena/ someone who wouldn't be the right size to squish him was about he would go straight back to being a tit!

Ponies are clever little toads. And if we could have afforded a nice pony (Smoky was nice, in fairness. He just had a wicked sense of humour!) then that's what we'd have had. But beggars can't be choosers.
 
I also dont think its too bad and think people can wrap kids up in cotton wool these days. There will be posters condeming poor ed that thought nothing of jumping on their horses bareback, hatless with just a headcollar etc etc. The kid has a body protector on and ed does seem to stop at least when he comes off! I thought they were a cute pair and he.'ll be a good.little rider after that!!
 
I think he's a fab little pony. It seems that little boy enjoys riding him, if he was in tears and scared then it would be a different story. IMO, it's riding ponies like Ed that make you into a good rider. My mum could never be doing with buying push button ponies so I could go trophy hunting. When I was a child, I always had ponies like that, and when they went well and I won a rosette it would feel like a real achievement.
 
I think too there is something to be said for children having falls where no harm is done. Firstly because learning how to fall is a potentially life saving skill. And secondly it can work wonders for confidence if done in a way that suits the child's nature. Fear of the unknown & possibly falling off can often put kids & adults of trying or doing things. And if things do go pear shaped, a child or adult frightened of falling nearly always tenses, which not only makes a fall more likely, but also makes the results of falling worse. I also think a child who is say 8/9 & has their first fall after years of riding, is far more likely to take a confidence dive from it, than a child who's had their share of amusing fun falls. Thinking 'the worst that can happen is I come off' is far better for confidence than 'omg, not doing that, what if I come off'. Of course, it does depend on the child's natural confidence, not suggesting its a good idea to force a more nervous child. But if they are happy about it, as that boy clearly is, then I think it can do wonders for confidence.
 
Littlelegs said:
I think too there is something to be said for children having falls where no harm is done. Firstly because learning how to fall is a potentially life saving skill. And secondly it can work wonders for confidence if done in a way that suits the child's nature. Fear of the unknown & possibly falling off can often put kids & adults of trying or doing things. And if things do go pear shaped, a child or adult frightened of falling nearly always tenses, which not only makes a fall more likely, but also makes the results of falling worse. I also think a child who is say 8/9 & has their first fall after years of riding, is far more likely to take a confidence dive from it, than a child who's had their share of amusing fun falls. Thinking 'the worst that can happen is I come off' is far better for confidence than 'omg, not doing that, what if I come off'. Of course, it does depend on the child's natural confidence, not suggesting its a good idea to force a more nervous child. But if they are happy about it, as that boy clearly is, then I think it can do wonders for confidence.
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Perfect!
 
I do think naughty ponies teach gutsy kids to be good riders. I've seen loads of videos of Ed- the only time I feel uncomfortable as a parent is when ed is tanking off to arena gate at speed and parent keeps filming . Thankfully Ed stopped but I have seen first hand a pony that did try to jump a gate that size and how small jockey didn't break her back I will never know.
 
Still think my sons neck is worth more than 'teaching him to stick on...'...

And no, he isn't stuck on the computer all day either. He will have the chance to risk his own neck in the future, but for now....my choice.
 
DragonSlayer said:
Still think my sons neck is worth more than 'teaching him to stick on...'...

And no, he isn't stuck on the computer all day either. He will have the chance to risk his own neck in the future, but for now....my choice.[/QUOTE

That's fine!

I don't think I would like a child of mine on that pony, as I am a worry bug.

But I still don't think this child's parents have done anything wrong (other than the bit where they video whilst it rolls with the child on).
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There is a video on you tube of Edd and Ross reunited January 2012, it is clear that Ross loved this pony however naughty he was
 
I can only speak for myself, as I don't know anything about the people concerned in the vid. But one of the main reasons I would let my child on a pony like that, is from a safety pov. I know there is no way I can prevent her ever coming off before 18, let alone her whole life. So I've always been of the opinion I would rather she learnt to fall (& more importantly how to prevent it, even if that sometimes means just scrambling back into the saddle from halfway down the neck) in a situation of my choosing. Where I can pick the environment, ground, pony, how close I am etc, rather than it happening outside my control. I taught her to roll from a mini as a toddler, with pony at a halt. At a later age we practiced it from one who had a habit of doing canter to dead halt & graze transistions. Which also did wonders for her learning to save herself last minute. Not with the idea of making her into a rodeo rider, purely & simply because imo its safer than waiting till she's older & has a mega fall over a xc fence or a freak occurrence with a usually well behaved pony. She's always been a speed freak, & an adrenaline junkie, not just riding wise. And I honestly don't think she would be into the riding side of ponies if I insisted she rode quiet predictable ones. Which tbh is how I am too. So unless I say its quiet or nothing, the best I can do is make sure she's as prepared as possible & safe for less than perfect ponies. I can't stop her from thinking a pony that leaps from halt to gallop, or that bucks, or tanks off is fun, but I can make sure she's up to sitting it.
 
The mother came onto HHO to respond to criticism a couple of years back when this was posted about previously.

If I remember correctly, that vid is a collection of particular incidents that occurred on many many riding sessions. The pony had had all physical checks done, and they had a behaviourist out to help them. There was also a corresponding 'ed is good' video.

At the time of the previous thread, the video was already quite dated, and Ross had moved onto a bigger pony. But still missed ed very much.
 
I think he's an absolutely fab little pony :D and sums up for me why I love little welshies .. They are always one step ahead, you can see his little brain working out the reaction!
 
My dad bought me a 12.2 Arab x welsh called dinky that was worse than that, the PC had deemed him dangerous and the girl was having the knacker man take him away he was about 14 at the time I was 6, my dad got there before the knackerman offered £250 for him with a full wardrobe (27 years ago) and bought him for me.

He was a little monkey to say the least, the PC could not believe it when I rocked up on him lol

We caused drama wherever we went but I love him.

Looking back now no I'd defo not put my kid on him, my dad just laughs about it saying ha ha that taught you how to stay on a naughty one :D lol

Cheers dad ..!!
 
Moomin1 said:
DragonSlayer said:
Still think my sons neck is worth more than 'teaching him to stick on...'...

And no, he isn't stuck on the computer all day either. He will have the chance to risk his own neck in the future, but for now....my choice.[/QUOTE

That's fine!

I don't think I would like a child of mine on that pony, as I am a worry bug.

But I still don't think this child's parents have done anything wrong (other than the bit where they video whilst it rolls with the child on).
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Never said they did anything wrong, that's just my choice.

I don't go for 'teaching them to stick on'....staying on the back on a bronching horse most of the time comes down to sheer luck, we have no way of knowing what the hell the horse is going to do next, run through a fence? (put my sister in hospital) run out into traffic? (killed a friend about 12 years ago) plant you into the ground? (me)

But each to their own! :D
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I am 'on the fence' on this one, the child obviously got back on willingly and if, as someone has said he is still riding then no harm done but I would worry myself that there could be a serious injury. Bet he is a good little rider now though!!:D
 
DragonSlayer said:
Still think my sons neck is worth more than 'teaching him to stick on...'...

And no, he isn't stuck on the computer all day either. He will have the chance to risk his own neck in the future, but for now....my choice.
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Yes exactly, lots of riding teaches you to stick on, not getting chucked off all the time! Kids will fall off normal ponies enough times to learn how to fall safely. You don't need one who wants to get them off, to teach them anything.
 
Well I would not have put one of my kids on that pony at any age - HOWEVER I absolutely take my hat off to that plucky little boy! He was such a trooper. And I did laugh at the video... naughty I know as some bits could have been dangerous. Very glad to hear Ross is still going strong and good luck to him!
 
I think it's brilliant, the boy new the pony and what he was in for and it still Didnt out him off! It was the boys choice to keep the pony and ride it. The mother was going to sell him but the boy wouldn't let her. Hats off to him Ride through the hard days and enjoy a well earned partnership at the end. There's risks in everything. At least it's the boys choice
 
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