Noe THAT'S what you call fitting a saddle.

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Okay, I'll 'fess up - I spent a small fortune on a Schleese saddle, made for both me and my horse. Fully adjustable tree, and was fine - at first. They are supposed to be adjusted twice a year, but along with other similar owners found out that the UK fitter had given up and no-one else could adjust them. Finally yesterday I had a visit from a fitter, trained by Schleese but self employed, and all I can say is wow! Every other fitter, qualified or not, I have met so far has only just scratched the surface, looking at wither clearance and possibly shoulder clearance.
Her knowledge of anatomy was detailed, and she could explain all the soft tissue and skeletal elements which must be cleared for the comfort of the horse.
Ligaments along the spine, movement of the scapula, negative reactive points, muscles over the ribs and under the scapula - as well as the balance of the saddle. When she had adjusted it I felt as though I was riding in a different saddle, my shoulder/hip/heel line was much much better and most of our problem - lateral movement - was all but eliminated by flocking to his shape (he is, er, rotund, and also blows himself out for England!!) I rode in it 3 times for her - once before, once after than a further time after a little more flocking.
When I read posts about some of the so-called fitters on here, well, they sound like amateurs in comparison (not all, I am not intending to tread on any toes here, just pointing out what the gold standard really ought to be). She had had 3 months training with Saddle Fit 4 Life in Canada, and it showed.
And if anyone is interested in educating themselves to know some of that stuff, problems arising from poor saddle fit and balance, she is intending to come and run a clinic here next year. And can reflock most makes, although most trees can't be adjusted, if anyone wants to bring their horse and saddle next time, between 4 and 6 months on.
Satisfied customer here - it wasn't cheap but it was worth every penny.
 
She sounds fab. Would she come as far as Essex do you reckon? I will need one soon, fingers crossed. The pony I'm looking at buying doesn't come with tack, sadly, and I'll have to shell out. But whilst I'm not very rich, I don't want to compromise on comfort (me or hoss...) are you able to share her contact details? Is that allowed on here? I know it's prohibited to denigrate people on a public forum, but surely recommending is allowed? If you are able to, and feel she would not mind, please do. Even if she can't come down here, she might know someone as good down South .

Many thanks and happy comfy riding!

Xx
 
She comes from Belgium, so is only in the UK every couple of months, and she doesn't sell saddles unless she has a used Schleese to sell for a client. I can put you in touch, she has the list of Schleese saddle owners and might let you know who if anyone she visits in your area - she came here from Borehamwood so covers all of the UK. I'll message you her email details.
 
Sounds wonderful. I don't know how it works in the UK, but in New Zealand anyone can pretty much set themselves up as anything (with the exception of vet), saddler, farrier, physio etc. Do a course on the internet, set up a FB page and away you go.

Saddlers are no exception and I remember one, who was attached to a shop, who didn't even want to watch the horse walk in it, much less be ridden. I think he was the same one who said " you can't ride in it, it's new !".

Luckily we still have one near here who is an experienced proffessional and knows his stuff. Saved for now.
 
Pretty much the same here NZJenny, I know at least two who either make or sell saddles and call themselves "fitters" with no occupational training whatsoever. That's the main reason I think owners should get to know a part of what Inge knows, so they can evaluate for themselves, a bit like what has happened in the last few years with hoof care. Time was we left it to the "professionals" then we began to learn a lot for ourselves as owners, and horses really did benefit.
 
Jill, I am in Bridgnorth and would be REALLY interested in coming to the clinic to watch her.

I'll be publicising it at the time (next summer) on Facebook, if you want to join my group (The Stables at Mill Green) you will get the info as soon as I have it. If you want to bring horse and saddle to have yours checked next time she comes to check mine, you could email her and she will schedule you in, probably in 4 to 6 months. I'll PM you her email address.
 
Could you PM me too please? Am thinking it might be good to see if she can come to our riding club camp and do a talk an fittings as an evening activity.
 
Oooooo dangerous looking yummy saddles :)

Dare I ask is there a UK seller?

Sadly not until they have trained someone up - the UK fitter who left was also their agent in this country. They are hoping to train someone but that someone will need to invest a fair amount, probably spending time in Canada with the founder and his staff. They are looking for people to do it????

You could ask their European office if anyone is prepared to come to the UK to sell, their saddle maker is based in Walsall but he isn't interested in fitting/selling. I have a hard to fit horse and got through several saddles before I found them.
 
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Hi, I am looking at buying a schleese saddle from the US but am worried about fitting it here in UK. It would be great if you could give me details of this fitter?! The saddle is just what i'm looking for and don't want to lose out.

Okay, I'll 'fess up - I spent a small fortune on a Schleese saddle, made for both me and my horse. Fully adjustable tree, and was fine - at first. They are supposed to be adjusted twice a year, but along with other similar owners found out that the UK fitter had given up and no-one else could adjust them. Finally yesterday I had a visit from a fitter, trained by Schleese but self employed, and all I can say is wow! Every other fitter, qualified or not, I have met so far has only just scratched the surface, looking at wither clearance and possibly shoulder clearance.
Her knowledge of anatomy was detailed, and she could explain all the soft tissue and skeletal elements which must be cleared for the comfort of the horse.
Ligaments along the spine, movement of the scapula, negative reactive points, muscles over the ribs and under the scapula - as well as the balance of the saddle. When she had adjusted it I felt as though I was riding in a different saddle, my shoulder/hip/heel line was much much better and most of our problem - lateral movement - was all but eliminated by flocking to his shape (he is, er, rotund, and also blows himself out for England!!) I rode in it 3 times for her - once before, once after than a further time after a little more flocking.
When I read posts about some of the so-called fitters on here, well, they sound like amateurs in comparison (not all, I am not intending to tread on any toes here, just pointing out what the gold standard really ought to be). She had had 3 months training with Saddle Fit 4 Life in Canada, and it showed.
And if anyone is interested in educating themselves to know some of that stuff, problems arising from poor saddle fit and balance, she is intending to come and run a clinic here next year. And can reflock most makes, although most trees can't be adjusted, if anyone wants to bring their horse and saddle next time, between 4 and 6 months on.
Satisfied customer here - it wasn't cheap but it was worth every penny.
 
That's fantastic!
I had a fab SMS saddle fitter but he retired. Got a new saddle fitter and she can't adjust the saddle properly, she keeps saying it's fine when horse and I know it's not. She wanted to sell me an expensive second hand saddle (in excess of £1k), I then sourced the exact same saddle much cheaper (same make, model and size) and apparently it's now too long for my horse's back!
It's truly a minefield.
 
The fitter - sorry, ergonomist - who comes here is Ingeborg Taffijn (inge@zadelpunt.be) and she is building a client base in the UK which means, with her Austrian assistant Kriemhilde she will be over here more often. I think she is coming to someone else who asked in August.
TBH most new good quality saddles are approaching the £3k mark, I know Barrie Swain's are about £2.8k and I have no idea what Albions are. And these are made to suit not only the horse but the rider too - different for males and females due to the different shape of the pelvis, and are fully adjustable so if you need to sell on, it can be made to fit any horse. sofskids go for it, one of the people who was here for the lecture sat on one on a saddle horse and completely fell for how secure and comfortable it felt. So that's another in the UK :)
 
TBH most new good quality saddles are approaching the £3k mark, I know Barrie Swain's are about £2.8k and I have no idea what Albions are.

Are they?? I'm not disputing the quality of your saddle but 3k is a lot of money! I'm pretty sure that the good quality well known english saddles are no where near that amount. A quick google of Albion saddles prices them at £1300 to £1500. My GFS which seems like a good quality saddle was £1150 from the tack shop, it would have been cheaper on line. Its incredibly well designed. I have found it pretty good quality, incredibly comfortable and an amazing fit on my barre shaped croup high cob :) He loves it and everyone who sits in it loves it :)
 
Thanks for that I will get in touch with her. The saddle was made in Canada for an Andalusian same size as my boy. It's the English trail saddle, absolutely stunning and great price by the time you convert dollars. I just disn't want to buy until I knew someone could look after fitting properly!

The fitter - sorry, ergonomist - who comes here is Ingeborg Taffijn (inge@zadelpunt.be) and she is building a client base in the UK which means, with her Austrian assistant Kriemhilde she will be over here more often. I think she is coming to someone else who asked in August.
TBH most new good quality saddles are approaching the £3k mark, I know Barrie Swain's are about £2.8k and I have no idea what Albions are. And these are made to suit not only the horse but the rider too - different for males and females due to the different shape of the pelvis, and are fully adjustable so if you need to sell on, it can be made to fit any horse. sofskids go for it, one of the people who was here for the lecture sat on one on a saddle horse and completely fell for how secure and comfortable it felt. So that's another in the UK :)
 
Sounds wonderful. I don't know how it works in the UK, but in New Zealand anyone can pretty much set themselves up as anything (with the exception of vet), saddler, farrier, physio etc. Do a course on the internet, set up a FB page and away you go.

Saddlers are no exception and I remember one, who was attached to a shop, who didn't even want to watch the horse walk in it, much less be ridden. I think he was the same one who said " you can't ride in it, it's new !".

Luckily we still have one near here who is an experienced proffessional and knows his stuff. Saved for now.

Yep I agree, I find it terrifying and people seem to be so gullible. I don't know how some of these so called "practitioners" have the brass neck. I know of someone who is advertising and practising Equine Acupuncture (she is doing a course on the internet) and another who is advertising herself as a qualified horse massage person I asked her what her qualifications were, she said had done a course on the internet. I would like to add that neither of these course had a supervised practical element. I would never dream of letting such a people loose on my horses.
 
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