Non Horsey People - Slight Rant!

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Obviously im having a bad day, after having just had a row with a work friend about horses being on the road, you know the usual, they don't pay road tax shouldn't be there type attitude, when she was actually joking :o

Another lady in the office then proceeded to join in and have a rant about the row she had with a lady on the road the other day, she was driving her car and came across horsey lady riding in the Polite Range, which she thought was ridiculous and totally uncalled for, but then went on to say she had a row with the lady on her horse because as she approached they were on a bad bend, the lady riding the horse waved her on! so she did no more than pull up alongside her and give her a mouthful about, its up to me when i pass you, you have no right to tell me what to do if i have an accident because you have waved me on bla bla bla!!! :rolleyes: offs i tried to explain to her that the lady on the horse was mereley letting her know the road was clear to pass! and the fact she was hanging around was probably unnerving her horse slightly! her attitude, shouldn't be on the road then :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Sorry rant over, having a seriously bad day
 
But really you shouldn't wave people past you to say the road is clear :o Yes, it might have been un-nerving the horse, but it's up to the driver to decide if the road is clear or not, nobody else :)

The road tax thing makes me (alternately, depending on my mood) spit feathers, or LOL. Who pays road tax? The thing actually called road tax was abolished years ago.
 
Personally i wouldnt wave anyone past on a bad bend... as surely rider wouldn't have been able to see either ? It could lead to an accident that i wouldnt want to be responsible for. I would also expect my horse to be able to deal with this situation :o

However i do understand the attitude is sometimes not what we want to hear, but many forget horses are animals !
 
You should never overtake unless you, the driver, can see that it is clear. No matter what someone on a horse or bike tells you. The fact that this can be interpreted as "it's ok, my horse doesn't mind if you pass", or "please pass so you don't scare my horse" just shows what a dangerous gesture this is. *Steps down off soapbox and scuttles back under my rock!*
 
I would agree with your work friend mostly OP, sorry. Anything that is un nerved by a car being behind them absolutely should not be on the road.
 
I appreciate, that as a car driver, you shouldn't overtake unless it is clear to do so and you can see what is coming, although if im out riding and in a position to see the road is clear, and the driver cannot i have always waved on, maybe i'll stop :confused:

What annoyed me really, was her attitude really, things like this don't normally rile me enough to post :o but today it riled me???

Both my boys were great out on the road and wouldn't have bothered one bit if someone was up there backsides revving 7 shades and wheel spinning, in fact they have done so, so i agree horses need to be able to deal with things, i was just trying explain something to someone who quite clearly thinks horses & horse people are silly, think i had the last laugh though, told her i pick up horse poo with my bare hands! :D
 
RunToEarth said:
I would agree with your work friend mostly OP, sorry. Anything that is un nerved by a car being behind them absolutely should not be on the road.
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I wasn't saying the horse was unnerved, i was just trying to point out the other side of the story to her, and that maybe thats why she waved her on several times
 
I often wave people on if I can see that the road is clear but they can't. 99% of people smile gratefully and appreciate the helpful gesture. If they don't want to take any notice, they don't have to....if they prefer to wait until they can see the road is clear then that's fine too, I really don't see what the problem is tbh. If someone got out of the car and started ranting because I'd waved them on I would think they were suffering with stress.

Motorists often wave each other on when the view is blocked, or guide a lorry to reverse etc. I thought they were just being helpful.
 
Joyous70 said:
I wasn't saying the horse was unnerved, i was just trying to point out the other side of the story to her, and that maybe thats why she waved her on several times
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This last bit swung it for me - 'waved her on several times'
I wonder if the waving was a friendly 'it's ok to pass' (which I don't agree should be done anyway)
Or did it escalate to a wave more like OH COME ON! JUST OVERTAKE ME WILL YOU?!
Putting pressure on the woman to overtake when she didn't feel it was safe.
 
RunToEarth said:
I would agree with your work friend mostly OP, sorry. Anything that is un nerved by a car being behind them absolutely should not be on the road.
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Agree.

People waving me past on blind bends really pee me off too, it makes me unbelievably stabby! And as for the Polite range, it invokes rage in me, though I accept a lot of folk think it's the bee's knees. (many bees or one bee? hmm...)
 
Joyous70 said:
I appreciate, that as a car driver, you shouldn't overtake unless it is clear to do so and you can see what is coming, although if im out riding and in a position to see the road is clear, and the driver cannot i have always waved on, maybe i'll stop :confused:
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I would cease waving on drivers, even if you believe you are doing them a favour. I was taught in my Riding & Road Safety training you should never wave on drivers, as you may be held responsible should the driver hit on-coming traffic.

Before I took my test, I ALWAYS waved on drivers, but not any more! The only hand signals I give are thank yous and slow down if a scary horse-eating lorry aproaches lol
 
so she did no more than pull up alongside her and give her a mouthful about, its up to me when i pass you, you have no right to tell me what to do if i have an accident because you have waved me on bla bla bla!!!


...and theres no chance of her having an accident/causing a crash whilst shes up alongside the rider and therefore in the middle of the road to give the rider an unnecessary mouthful? IMO a lot of riders (i don't do it personally) might see the 'waving on' gesture as a way of being polite and in this case the rider may of been able to see that the road was clear.
 
RunToEarth said:
I would agree with your work friend mostly OP, sorry. Anything that is un nerved by a car being behind them absolutely should not be on the road.
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surely we should take in to account that horses can have an unpredictable nature. the horse in question (and most horses) may be 9/10 times fine on the road or usually is but on this occasion something else may already of unsettled them or they were just feeling a bit flighty as they can sometimes unexpectedly become.
 
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