Norway has banned foreign rescues

Clodagh said:
I do sadly agreee with this, and as rara007 says it needs to be addressed. I agree with not rehoming to a home where the dog is going to be left all day though, and presumably again all night, I know dogs like sleeping but they cannot do it continuously and forever.
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Yes I agree but a responsible dog owner manages this. I work FT but I also work from home a lot and will use a network of friends and paid services to fill in the gaps after a settling in period.
 
Dogs brought from breeders can have those issues (why some of them end up in rescue, I presume) and dogs imported from other countries, particularly feral street dogs.

It's down to breeding better and education people. Regarding genetics before cute looks and fads.

It all starts (and ends) with breeding (or not) in this country, or any other. Cleaning up at the other end isn't sustainable in the long term.
 
Sussexbythesea said:
90% of places won’t let you adopt if you work full time.
Of the remaining 10% about 9% need to be an only pet and can’t get along with cats or other dogs and the last the 1% must be rehomed in a home that already has a dog because it came from a puppy farm and doesn’t know how to act as a pet dog.

If there is anything left it has serious behavioural issues which is why it’s being rehomed in the first place and no one wants it.

I know there are risks and I wish there weren’t but surely a pedigree bred dog is just as likely to get bitten by a sandfly or tick unless it never goes out and runs around?
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and this is one of the main reasons I got a puppy rather than a rescue. I've just finished uni and am starting work where most of the time I do 9-5 but have a fair number of 12 hour on calls etc and the couple of rescues I spoke to wouldn't consider me even tho I have arrangements in place that my mom looks after my pup when I'm out at work as she's now retired. Even tho we live together they still wouldn't consider me because I work and it would be my dog.
 
My mum wanted a rescue dog. She is in her 80s, but relatively fit and active. She is, however, no longer fit enough to walk a dog, but is on the same yard as us (yard between two houses) so the dog would be doing the horses with us and our dog, plus has huge garden, orchard paddock and fields it can run in.

TBH, many dogs don't get walked in such a nice place as hers would have free access to.

She was also prepared to take an elderly dog, one that perhaps had no need of long walks. Maybe one who had lost its owner.

She is at home all day, with a dog proof garden and yard...

No one would let her have a dog, even though we have had 2 RSPCA dogs in the past! We could have had another greyhound from a greyhound rescue, but she wanted a smaller one this time as when the greyhound finally became ill and needed to go to the vet, she was not able to lift her into the car and had to wait for me to get home. So, 3 successful rescue dogs already, but no luck in homing a small elderly dog from a rescue because she could not 'walk' it.


She may have considered a foreign born dog, but in the end we bought one from the free ads! A lovely 1 year old, that had mostly recovered from a kidney infection. He rules the roost in her house.

I agree, rescue dogs in this country are not easy to come by. Sometimes it is just too hard to do.
 
I have a foreign rescue dog, as do my parents. Unfortunately unless it is a staffy type dog you are looking for there's not much selection in our local rehoming centres & we would never consider buying from a breeder.
 
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el_Snowflakes said:
we would never consider buying from a breeder.
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That is just a silly statement, if you want a healthy dog suitable for your lifestyle you are far more likely to get a straightforward one from a breeder. I have had many rescues and also pups and both are hard work. It is like thinking all horse breeders only churn out poorly conformed coloured cobs.
 
Clodagh said:
That is just a silly statement, if you want a healthy dog suitable for your lifestyle you are far more likely to get a straightforward one from a breeder. I have had many rescues and also pups and both are hard work. It is like thinking all horse breeders only churn out poorly conformed coloured cobs.
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I would have absolutely loved to buy a puppy direct from a breeder but I couldn’t see how I’d realistically manage the small puppy stage where it couldn’t mix with other dogs or stay with a dog minder when I’m doing a long day travelling or doing an overnighter.

My friend had a lab puppy that I would have absolutely loved to have and in fact it was after seeing that that I bit the bullet and decided to adopt. It’ll be about 20yrs until I retire if I live that long so it’s now or never really.
 
Breeders often have older pups or young adults that they run on but don't make the grade for work/show or they just decide to let them go. They also get returns, in the case of relationship break-ups, death etc.
 
CorvusCorax said:
Breeders often have older pups or young adults that they run on but don't make the grade for work/show or they just decide to let them go. They also get returns, in the case of relationship break-ups, death etc.
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To be honest I hadn’t thought of that although I did look in places such as Gumtree. How would you be able to find a breeder with an older dog for sale?

The family had two boxers direct from Boxer rescue that were fab dogs but I struggled to find anything suitable even on specific breed rescue pages which are a nightmare to find as they’re dotted around and usually set out really badly as not up to date.
 
Sussexbythesea said:
To be honest I hadn’t thought of that although I did look in places such as Gumtree. How would you be able to find a breeder with an older dog for sale?

The family had two boxers direct from Boxer rescue that were fab dogs but I struggled to find anything suitable even on specific breed rescue pages which are a nightmare to find as they’re dotted around and usually set out really badly as not up to date.
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I agree with this as well. A friend has to rehome her 12 month old lab x spanner and last night I was looking a rescue sites to try and give her some ideas. So many have Romainian dogs (sorry, I would not support those rescues) even Lab rescue does now. Madness. They also all have dogs that have to live alone and have problems. Mind you, an adult import is far more likely to have aggression problems and SA IMO.
 
STBS, if you just get in contact and get yourself added to their waiting list. Perhaps go and visit them or go along to a show or a working trial etc. Breeders get a LOT of tyre kickers and their inboxes are flooded with chancers so it helps if they can see you in person and know you are keen and not a time-waster. My Facebook TL quite often has posts from (responsible) breeders who have taken on returns through no fault of the dog and will hold onto them for rehoming, so it's worth making a few contacts on social media too. Some good breeders also do rescue on the side and are a bit more realistic.
 
Clodagh said:
I agree with this as well. A friend has to rehome her 12 month old lab x spanner and last night I was looking a rescue sites to try and give her some ideas. So many have Romainian dogs (sorry, I would not support those rescues) even Lab rescue does now. Madness. They also all have dogs that have to live alone and have problems. Mind you, an adult import is far more likely to have aggression problems and SA IMO.
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An adult possibly but most dogs in British Kennels are adults and have been rehomed because they come from broken homes, homes that can’t cope, death etc. And because they have behavioural problems rather than over-breeding. Typically they’re the sort of dog you’ll find on a sink estate bred by a brain dead idiot because they look tough.

The place I’m rehoming from is very well respected and had hundreds of happy dog owners and I know several personally. Many are abandoned litters of puppies that are from a dog that belongs to someone and never been on the streets as such.

The lady that runs it often has the dogs in her house (not all the time) so that they learn to mingle with other dogs, cats and people. Mine was a puppy when rescued and seems very well socialised. I don’t think he’ll be a problem in that respect. I’m sure he won’t know about getting in a car, walking on a lead, traffic etc. So I’m prepared that there will be an adjustment period.
 
ester said:
Do those that have/going to get foreign rescues not have concerns over the leishmania situation?
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It worries me, I would be pretty b cross if my dog caught it from one over here.
When I bought my dog back from Oz in 1995 she did 6 months quarantie, but was not tested for heartworm, although it was prevalent over there and not here. I had her tested myself the day she came out of quarantine to make sure she was clear.
 
Clodagh said:
That is just a silly statement, if you want a healthy dog suitable for your lifestyle you are far more likely to get a straightforward one from a breeder. I have had many rescues and also pups and both are hard work. It is like thinking all horse breeders only churn out poorly conformed coloured cobs.
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Not a silly statement at all. We are not interested in buying a pedigree dog, that is our preference. We also have the experience to take on a dog which is not straightforward & so chose to do so.

Your analogy is silly though. I never mentioned horses, or any animal bought from breeders being badly conformed!

I'd be interested to see the figures which led to your theory that adult rescue dogs are more likely to have aggressive tendency.
 
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Sussexbythesea said:
To be honest I hadn’t thought of that although I did look in places such as Gumtree. How would you be able to find a breeder with an older dog for sale?

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If you have a breed you are interested in then join FB groups, look at breed soc websites etc and phone and talk to breeders/meet them in person. I got offered a couple of older (ie 3 or 4yo) smooth collies this way-eventually got a 7month old one that the breeder was running on but who decided to sell to me.
 
There are always labradors from 7 months to adult on gundog groups, ones that haven't made the trialling grade.
 
el_Snowflakes said:
Not a silly statement at all. We are not interested in buying a pedigree dog, that is our preference. We also have the experience to take on a dog which is not straightforward & so chose to do so.

Your analogy is silly though. I never mentioned horses, or any animal bought from breeders being badly conformed!

I'd be interested to see the figures which led to your theory that adult rescue dogs are more likely to have aggressive tendency.
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Fair enough - I read it as written that you felt breeders were pretty low for doing such a thing. Decent breeders enhance the breeds.
I only say adult rescues are more likely to be aggressive as if you go on any website, Battersea for example, it is exactly as SBTS says and they all need to live alone with no other animals and no children. That assume that is not down to excessive friendliness.
 
Clodagh said:
Fair enough - I read it as written that you felt breeders were pretty low for doing such a thing. Decent breeders enhance the breeds.
I only say adult rescues are more likely to be aggressive as if you go on any website, Battersea for example, it is exactly as SBTS says and they all need to live alone with no other animals and no children. That assume that is not down to excessive friendliness.[/Q

That is why its always best to go to rescues who use fosters who actually turn out very well socialised non aggressive dogs, some are even child and cat friendly if the fosterer has either.

Also whoever was looking for an older dog then try goldenoldies, they take on a lot of older dogs and find the right sort of homes for them, believe or not there is a demand for an older dog.
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Clodagh said:
Fair enough - I read it as written that you felt breeders were pretty low for doing such a thing. Decent breeders enhance the breeds.
I only say adult rescues are more likely to be aggressive as if you go on any website, Battersea for example, it is exactly as SBTS says and they all need to live alone with no other animals and no children. That assume that is not down to excessive friendliness.
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Not at all. We definitely need good breeders to keep breeds going & strive towards breeding our genetic problems. I haven't looked at Battersea as it's not local to me, but I can imagine it's mainly down to legal implications. It would be a huge responsibility to send a dog to a home with children, only to find it has aggression issues. Both of our rescue dogs from abroad were in foster in the UK so we're tested in every way. They are without a doubt, the 2 best natured dogs we have owned (we have had 6)
 
Off the subject of aggression, those of you who adopt imported dogs, do you have them tested for Leish?
 
A decision was made that any animal transports using the tunnel from France to the UK could only have 10 dogs on board or 20 with permission. They did that due to safety reasons and the number of transporters over loading or/and entering the UK illegally. It makes good sense but one rescue who uses (have to say not as frequently as some) to bring dogs from both Romania and Portugal is encouraging their supporters to write/email with a view to over turn the decision made. They say in their write up their vehicle carries 50 dogs, yet their last transport from Portugal had 76 dogs on board. Then they wonder why restrictions are placed on all transports using the tunnel, they are part of the problem themselves. Here is what they wrote:- Many Tears Animal Rescue‎
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Yet again I am asking for the help of ALL true dog lovers. The Channel Tunnel powers to be decided that they would no longer accept more than 10 dogs per van or 20 by special agreement and vans like mine carry 50 plus.
I only go abroad a few times a year to rescue dogs but dogs coming from Romania etc. are coming in regularly to rescues here. These poor dogs are in DESPERATE need of help but the rescues cannot afford to pay for two or three vans to come that usually one would be enough to carry all. Not cramped but not a third empty either.
The rule makes no sense as if affordable three vans would need to be inspected not one. It just puts a huge strain on the rescues who fund the trips and MANY more dogs dying. So first of all if you can find me the best address to write to or email to get attention and I will write and pass this on so all can follow suit with letters or emails. Please email me this at swvanatta@gmail.com.
Secondly even if the rescues paid a little extra for customs time it would be worth it, so suggest please suggest this in your letters.
I am not asking for help for me, but for the thousands of dogs that will suffer because of this rule. If you care please help. With enough public feeling maybe we can make a difference but thousands of letters or emails will be needed.
Thank you
Sylvia
 
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