atot
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How would you say something alone those lines in an ad without putting people off? I'm tempted to put ''quirky but safe'' but I don't know, sounds a bit weird?
''not a novice ride''
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jenbleep
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needs an experienced rider?
fun but safe?
needs confident handling?
im not a seller can you tell lol
fun but safe?
needs confident handling?
im not a seller can you tell lol
PaddyMonty
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more suited to a rider with experience
MagicMelon
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Id just stick with "not novice ride"?! You can put "quirky but safe" but you should then maybe mention quickly WHY its quirky?
I tend to put "experienced riders only please to do horse justice".
I tend to put "experienced riders only please to do horse justice".
Shilasdair
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You could alter it to be more specific...e.g. 'horse is highly responsive to the aids' 'forwards thinking horse' or 'suited for the more experienced rider as highly schooled/athletic'
Or perhaps 'not suitable as a first horse as very responsive to the aids/well schooled/athletic'.
Assuming of course...it's not a psycho... :grin
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Or perhaps 'not suitable as a first horse as very responsive to the aids/well schooled/athletic'.
Assuming of course...it's not a psycho... :grin
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atot
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15hh cob type mare, sweetest temperament. Hacks alone/in company, clean bold jump. Hunted in Ireland and Oxfordshire 3 seasons. Brilliant fun to SJ and XC. GCSE owner lacks time to ride, hence no hunting this season. Forward going but safe, Good in traffic. Excellent to box/catch/clip/shoe. Very sad sale of this special horse who would flourish in a hunting home.
That's the ad so far. By saying she'd be suited to a hunting home, does that sort of eliminate complete novices?? Just want to keep the word count down really.
M_M - Might put your suggestion if you don't think the above is enough.
thanks everyone.
That's the ad so far. By saying she'd be suited to a hunting home, does that sort of eliminate complete novices?? Just want to keep the word count down really.
M_M - Might put your suggestion if you don't think the above is enough.
thanks everyone.
atot
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You could alter it to be more specific...e.g. 'horse is highly responsive to the aids' 'forwards thinking horse' or 'suited for the more experienced rider as highly schooled/athletic'
Or perhaps 'not suitable as a first horse as very responsive to the aids/well schooled/athletic'.
Assuming of course...it's not a psycho... :grin
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I don't buy psycho ponies.
hah.....well schooled my a*se........Thing is, I don't want to attract anyone who wants to do flatwork everyday - she'd just get very bored, as she's used to the more adventurous Irish hunting life.
She's been an allrounder with me for the past year, but she needs to hunt now, really.
You could alter it to be more specific...e.g. 'horse is highly responsive to the aids' 'forwards thinking horse' or 'suited for the more experienced rider as highly schooled/athletic'
Or perhaps 'not suitable as a first horse as very responsive to the aids/well schooled/athletic'.
Assuming of course...it's not a psycho... :grin
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I don't buy psycho ponies.
chestnut cob
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I put "not novice ride" and "experienced riders only" on my Welshy's ad and still got people phoning up asking if he'd be suitable for their 7 yo to learn on, or if he could be suitable for someone who had a v bad accident 25 years ago, is terrified of horses but would like to get back on, and also loads of people saying they'd had 5 riding lessons so were clearly not a novice...
So I wouldn't worry about people getting put off, people don't always have an accurate view of their own riding...
So I wouldn't worry about people getting put off, people don't always have an accurate view of their own riding...
Happytohack
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I sold an unbacked youngster recently and just put "no novices or dealers" at the end of the ad. It was pretty easy to realise who was suitable on the phone.
atot
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I put "not novice ride" and "experienced riders only" on my Welshy's ad and still got people phoning up asking if he'd be suitable for their 7 yo to learn on, or if he could be suitable for someone who had a v bad accident 25 years ago, is terrified of horses but would like to get back on, and also loads of people saying they'd had 5 riding lessons so were clearly not a novice...
So I wouldn't worry about people getting put off, people don't always have an accurate view of their own riding...
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Oh dear!!! In that case, I've already put forward going but safe, and reccomended to a hunting home, so maybe thats enoughl, and if anyone rings up, I can tell them more on the phone...
I put "not novice ride" and "experienced riders only" on my Welshy's ad and still got people phoning up asking if he'd be suitable for their 7 yo to learn on, or if he could be suitable for someone who had a v bad accident 25 years ago, is terrified of horses but would like to get back on, and also loads of people saying they'd had 5 riding lessons so were clearly not a novice...
So I wouldn't worry about people getting put off, people don't always have an accurate view of their own riding...
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Oh dear!!! In that case, I've already put forward going but safe, and reccomended to a hunting home, so maybe thats enoughl, and if anyone rings up, I can tell them more on the phone...
saskia295
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I think that looks fine. I've put "not for novice" before and got quite a lot of calls. I think if you're honest with people from the outset, you're more likely to find the right home.
vieshot
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Id put 'needs a competative, compatant rider to do her justice'
Shilasdair
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Id put 'needs a competative, compatant rider to do her justice'
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Or even competitive, competent rider?
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PS Sorry, couldn't resist after the thread the other day
Id put 'needs a competative, compatant rider to do her justice'
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Or even competitive, competent rider?
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PS Sorry, couldn't resist after the thread the other day
burtie
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When advertising for a loanee for my mare I used to put 'straightforward ride but as a well trained competition horse not suitable for nervous or novice riders.'
It mostly seemed to attract the right people, but then I would also put a bit about her competition results so that helped too!
It mostly seemed to attract the right people, but then I would also put a bit about her competition results so that helped too!
vieshot
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Id put 'needs a competative, compatant rider to do her justice'
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Or even competitive, competent rider?
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PS Sorry, couldn't resist after the thread the other day
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Or that if you would rather! I did pass English! Honestly!
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Id put 'needs a competative, compatant rider to do her justice'
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Or even competitive, competent rider?
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PS Sorry, couldn't resist after the thread the other day
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Or that if you would rather! I did pass English! Honestly!
sillygillyhorse
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Dont think it matters what you put, you will still get novices ringing. My definition of a novice rider is obviously different than that of some of the people who have tried my horse!
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
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Or that if you would rather! I did pass English! Honestly!
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Yeah, yeah - we need proof!
May I suggest that gin on your cornflakes is a BAD idea?
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Or that if you would rather! I did pass English! Honestly!
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Yeah, yeah - we need proof!
May I suggest that gin on your cornflakes is a BAD idea?
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TarrSteps
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May I suggest that gin on your cornflakes is a BAD idea?
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Unless it's sloe gin, which counts as a fruit, thereby making it a perfect addition to any proper start to the day.
To the OP, your ad sounds fine as it is if you don't want to add more. You clearly state what the mare is "for" so if people don't believe you, you can't really help that. And, as people have said, you will get all sorts of people no matter what you actually say. I had a 17.2hh (yes, really - measured properly) 3 year old, dressage-bred horse for sale last year and an instructor I thought would have known better brought a rider who could barely canter to see him. She almost fell off when he trotted! And they still asked to have him on trial . . !?!? I could tell you stories . . .
You will still have to do some weeding out on the phone, no matter what you write. I think the most important thing is to say what the horse has done, where it's talents seem to lie and to disclose anything you think might be a problem honestly, without romanticising it or putting value judgements on it. (Some people say, "the horse does such and such, but of course I can ride it" thereby getting less experienced people's backs up and making them want to try the horse out of pride - dumb and dangerous but not uncommon.) I'm also suspicious of any horse that seems to be "all things to all people" but you seem to be very honest about what the horse can and cannot do easily.
Good luck.
May I suggest that gin on your cornflakes is a BAD idea?
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Unless it's sloe gin, which counts as a fruit, thereby making it a perfect addition to any proper start to the day.
To the OP, your ad sounds fine as it is if you don't want to add more. You clearly state what the mare is "for" so if people don't believe you, you can't really help that. And, as people have said, you will get all sorts of people no matter what you actually say. I had a 17.2hh (yes, really - measured properly) 3 year old, dressage-bred horse for sale last year and an instructor I thought would have known better brought a rider who could barely canter to see him. She almost fell off when he trotted! And they still asked to have him on trial . . !?!? I could tell you stories . . .
You will still have to do some weeding out on the phone, no matter what you write. I think the most important thing is to say what the horse has done, where it's talents seem to lie and to disclose anything you think might be a problem honestly, without romanticising it or putting value judgements on it. (Some people say, "the horse does such and such, but of course I can ride it" thereby getting less experienced people's backs up and making them want to try the horse out of pride - dumb and dangerous but not uncommon.) I'm also suspicious of any horse that seems to be "all things to all people" but you seem to be very honest about what the horse can and cannot do easily.
Good luck.
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
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May I suggest that gin on your cornflakes is a BAD idea?
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Unless it's sloe gin, which counts as a fruit, thereby making it a perfect addition to any proper start to the day.
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Does that count as one of your 'five a day' fruit and veg too?
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May I suggest that gin on your cornflakes is a BAD idea?
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Unless it's sloe gin, which counts as a fruit, thereby making it a perfect addition to any proper start to the day.
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Does that count as one of your 'five a day' fruit and veg too?
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TarrSteps
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Does that count as one of your 'five a day' fruit and veg too?
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Oh, at least. And I think juniper counts as one as well but not sure if it's fruit or veg.
Does that count as one of your 'five a day' fruit and veg too?
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Oh, at least. And I think juniper counts as one as well but not sure if it's fruit or veg.
atot
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Thanks all.
I think I might leave it. I've said what I need to say really, now I just need a really decent picture!
thanks for your help, and taa Cruiser
I think I might leave it. I've said what I need to say really, now I just need a really decent picture!
thanks for your help, and taa Cruiser
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
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BeckyD
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pinkcatkin
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I think brandy is better as it is a fortified wine and therefore from the vine and as such is one of the ingredients of muesli which a lot of people have for breakfast....
Chumsmum
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She sounds lovely - good luck in selling her
I think people's idea of a novice ride varies but as I class myself as a novice rider rather than experienced, seeing 'not a novice ride' would put me off ringing.
I'm not looking for a horse but say I was - would you say she is too much for me?? I've been riding 4 years, mainly happy hacking. I've been hunting but stayed at the back and didn't jump because a lack of experience but hope to go lots more. My pony is fairly quiet but not 100% bombproof (scared of lorries/tractors) but I can cope with this on a hack. I can cope with bunny hops but a rear would scare me. I can cope with tiny bucks but not much more. I can cope with 'normal' spooks but big spinning spooks and taking off up the road would worry me.
I can jump a small pole
but would want to progress on to more - same with XC. I'm rubbish at flatwork but working on it
I can canter with confidence across open fields and have gone full pelt on the beach.
Would I be wasting your time ringing up
I think people's idea of a novice ride varies but as I class myself as a novice rider rather than experienced, seeing 'not a novice ride' would put me off ringing.
I'm not looking for a horse but say I was - would you say she is too much for me?? I've been riding 4 years, mainly happy hacking. I've been hunting but stayed at the back and didn't jump because a lack of experience but hope to go lots more. My pony is fairly quiet but not 100% bombproof (scared of lorries/tractors) but I can cope with this on a hack. I can cope with bunny hops but a rear would scare me. I can cope with tiny bucks but not much more. I can cope with 'normal' spooks but big spinning spooks and taking off up the road would worry me.
I can jump a small pole
I can canter with confidence across open fields and have gone full pelt on the beach.
Would I be wasting your time ringing up
lexiedhb
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LOL... nice thinking pink weasel
atot
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Not at all!!! She's quirky though, but I'll PM you!
atot
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She sounds lovely - good luck in selling her
I think people's idea of a novice ride varies but as I class myself as a novice rider rather than experienced, seeing 'not a novice ride' would put me off ringing.
I'm not looking for a horse but say I was - would you say she is too much for me?? I've been riding 4 years, mainly happy hacking. I've been hunting but stayed at the back and didn't jump because a lack of experience but hope to go lots more. My pony is fairly quiet but not 100% bombproof (scared of lorries/tractors) but I can cope with this on a hack. I can cope with bunny hops but a rear would scare me. I can cope with tiny bucks but not much more. I can cope with 'normal' spooks but big spinning spooks and taking off up the road would worry me.
I can jump a small pole
but would want to progress on to more - same with XC. I'm rubbish at flatwork but working on it
I can canter with confidence across open fields and have gone full pelt on the beach.
Would I be wasting your time ringing up
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OMG - TOTALLY misread that LOL - I thought you were looking!!!!! You'll probably be wanting to delete the PM I just sent you! I wouldn't mind you ringing up at all, you sound fun and keen, so why not!
She sounds lovely - good luck in selling her
I think people's idea of a novice ride varies but as I class myself as a novice rider rather than experienced, seeing 'not a novice ride' would put me off ringing.
I'm not looking for a horse but say I was - would you say she is too much for me?? I've been riding 4 years, mainly happy hacking. I've been hunting but stayed at the back and didn't jump because a lack of experience but hope to go lots more. My pony is fairly quiet but not 100% bombproof (scared of lorries/tractors) but I can cope with this on a hack. I can cope with bunny hops but a rear would scare me. I can cope with tiny bucks but not much more. I can cope with 'normal' spooks but big spinning spooks and taking off up the road would worry me.
I can jump a small pole
I can canter with confidence across open fields and have gone full pelt on the beach.
Would I be wasting your time ringing up
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OMG - TOTALLY misread that LOL - I thought you were looking!!!!! You'll probably be wanting to delete the PM I just sent you! I wouldn't mind you ringing up at all, you sound fun and keen, so why not!
WishfulThinker
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It doesnt seem to matter what you put! Numpties will still ring up! Beau was described as needs experienced rider as he is cheeky and strong - and I got someone asking about him for a 14yr old and a 8yr old to share!! Its a 600KG Shire Cross FGS!! But in saying that, he can put up with total beginners to as long as they have common sense!
The girl who eventually took him was what I would say was novice - only just over a year ish experience - but she was canny and gutsy and better than me after my 13 years. But I let whoever phoned up come and try him, as I knew if they really were a numpty he would scare them off
The girl who eventually took him was what I would say was novice - only just over a year ish experience - but she was canny and gutsy and better than me after my 13 years. But I let whoever phoned up come and try him, as I knew if they really were a numpty he would scare them off
BethH
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well I'm thinking about getting a part loaner for my pain in the back side gelding, but am terrified that will get hopeless or heavy handed rider which will just about finish him off - you guys are so good at this any ideas for an ad for a not novice ride temperamentally over sensitive with big attittude 15.2hh gelding who enjoys taking all 4 legs off the floor in rapid sucession depending on his mood ?????