Not really CR, but worrying myself sick... and you guys know about comp horses..

The hunt came past my friends yard the other day whilst it was in the stable, the way the yard is set up meant the passed no more than 30 metres away from the stables and it has sent her mare very strange.
 
Could something be affecting his hearing? Did vet check his ears? Personally I don't think it sounds like ulcers, it's escalated too fast for that. My gut feeling is still to do with some sort of electrical or static charge or some sort of radio waves. Are other horses stabled in the same yard?
 
YasandCrystal said:
I second this idea. I have known a rat in the stable to really freak a horse out.

Don't shoot me down but have you considered getting a communication done with him ? £35 that's what Jackie Weaver charged and it was very accurate and revealing whether you believe in it or not is immaterial if it helps!!
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I have not seen any rats, but will check around his box thoroughly to ensure there's no where they could be getting in. Obviously we can't ensure there there is no spillage of feed in the stables, but usually he's SO greedy that I'm not sure a rat would get a look in!

Thinking about it though, the last yard we were at there was a massive rat problem when we moved in, we quickly dealt with it, but he did not display anything like what he's doing now. Perhaps he could have been bitten? Doesn't explain why he's so unsettled everywhere else though...

Re the communication - if the vet comes back with nothing, we're literally willing to try anything. Will definately bear it in mind - thanks.
 
Mickyjoe said:
Could something be affecting his hearing? Did vet check his ears? Personally I don't think it sounds like ulcers, it's escalated too fast for that. My gut feeling is still to do with some sort of electrical or static charge or some sort of radio waves. Are other horses stabled in the same yard?
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We have 25 horses on our yard. All of which are still behaving normally! If vet comes back with nothing, will definately investigate this.

Hearing all OK as far as we know, nothing untoward in or around his ears, not inflamed etc - full MOT done.
 
amymay said:
One last shot - Hormones??

He almost sounds like a mare who's experiencing a severe season.....
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He's definately much worse than any mare I've ever experienced!!

Imbalances would show up in the bloods, so will wait for vet's conclusion...

We were thinking maybe an enzyme imbalance, which again would show up in bloods, so will wait to hear.
 
He sounds a bit "hyperaesthetic", in other words, he is reacting much more to certain stimuli (eg noise) than would normally be expected.

Something might show up on the bloods (esp.liver?), but also, I would be inclined to keep him off the field, as some plants can cause this. Especially as we have had a very odd growing season this year, & plants are still actively growing. Maybe search your fields for unusual weeds/hedgerow plants, especially in wetter areas.
 
quizzie said:
He sounds a bit "hyperaesthetic", in other words, he is reacting much more to certain stimuli (eg noise) than would normally be expected.

Something might show up on the bloods (esp.liver?), but also, I would be inclined to keep him off the field, as some plants can cause this. Especially as we have had a very odd growing season this year, & plants are still actively growing. Maybe search your fields for unusual weeds/hedgerow plants, especially in wetter areas.
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Yes - that's definately how it started, with him reacting to movement and noise quite dramatically.

We have searched the field in question with a fine tooth comb and found nothing that I would have thought odd. He has no access to hedgerows/trees etc - our grass is very rich but he has never had a issue with it before. But definately something to think about.

I wish they'd hurry up with the blimin bloods!! (Just called them - nothing back yet).
 
I was thinking ulcers too. Ask the vet, the causes of ulcers are complicated and not fully understood it might be worth trying gastroguard If it's ulcers it should settle quickly once you start it is an expensive drug though.
 
Goldenstar said:
I was thinking ulcers too. Ask the vet, the causes of ulcers are complicated and not fully understood it might be worth trying gastroguard If it's ulcers it should settle quickly once you start it is an expensive drug though.
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Thanks - As previously mentioned he was investigated for ulcers two years ago, found to be clear, but with his competition program getting busier we put put him on Gastrguard just to be safe. He's been on it for over two years now, so hopefully not ulcers.
 
I am really sorry to hear of your sad news :-(

I know lots of people have said this but my stable is on the end of a row, my horse is on shavings and now the weather is getting colder i seem to have a rat or mouse getting in...i can tell as in one corner you can see where the rat (s) have been making a tunnel :-(.

My horse dosn't seem to be bothered but the horse i had before did not like it one bit!!! To a point where he did not go near that corner of the stable.

Do you deep litter? Maybe try lifting all his bed up and seeing if there are any unwanted rats living or using it as a tunnel to get around in?

Just a thought - i hope everything works out.
 
Kraft said:
I am really sorry to hear of your sad news :-(

I know lots of people have said this but my stable is on the end of a row, my horse is on shavings and now the weather is getting colder i seem to have a rat or mouse getting in...i can tell as in one corner you can see where the rat (s) have been making a tunnel :-(.

My horse dosn't seem to be bothered but the horse i had before did not like it one bit!!! To a point where he did not go near that corner of the stable.

Do you deep litter? Maybe try lifting all his bed up and seeing if there are any unwanted rats living or using it as a tunnel to get around in?

Just a thought - i hope everything works out.
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Thank you very much - I asked the OH to check the stable earlier and he just called to say he couldn't find any sign of possible entry for rats. I don't think they could squeeze themselves under the door as we have rubber matting that's obviously slightly higher than the bottom of the door.

No - we clean out the beds entirely each day, banks 'n' all (I worked on a yard that had rats nesting in the banks and it grossed me out so much that I insist that all banks are taken down each day).
 
Sorry to hear about your horse and really hope you get to the bottom of it... I know horses can change there behaviour with the weather and different seasons etc, but your case sounds a bit extreme.
I wish you all the best and hope you get some answers with the blood xx
 
The only other thing I can possibly think of, is you haven't started a new bag of feed have you? If so, I'd be checking very carefully that the manufacturers haven't changed the formulation - known this to send a horse loopy before now and the feed was the last thing checked as the brand etc hadn't been changed!
 
SpottedCat said:
The only other thing I can possibly think of, is you haven't started a new bag of feed have you? If so, I'd be checking very carefully that the manufacturers haven't changed the formulation - known this to send a horse loopy before now and the feed was the last thing checked as the brand etc hadn't been changed!
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We use a bag of feed per day on our yard (20+ horses and all!) will check with Sarecen, although our rep did promise to inform us of any changes... Will call her now. Thanks!
 
About ten yrs ago we had something solar with a promising showjumper. He would panic in the stable by himself, kicking out rearing pawing throwing his head. Became entirely dangerous to handle- ended up not leaving his stable for 2 myths other than to visit vets. Every test agonable done. By ruling out came to dx of brain tumour and horse major was to be pts. Last vet suggested trying treaent for ear mites. Hey presto horse cured! He went on to compete at grand prix level but never got over his head shyness and after every holiday it would take 6 weeks to get him used to taking a bridle again. His behaviour in the stable really was dramatic but was fine to ride as long as we could tack him up. More recently I have heard thee have been a number of cases of horses fretting, kicking out etc for no apparent reason around the south midlands but have not heard what has been suggested to be the cause. Hope it is something as simple with your guy.
 
Hi, I am sorry what a nightmare, hopefully the blood work will help give you a cause.
He is clearly over reacting to sound stimuli no? How about trying the radio on at least in the stable? Or even ear covering? Best of luck. I hope you can sort this out soon.
 
Hi,

I am sorry to hear about your news. I wouldn't normally suggest this as I am super skeptical but my super skeptical friend has had some success with a horse reader type woman.
We both met up at the weekend and spent hours discussing the findings and how on earth she knew what she did. My friend has also noted a change in her horses behaviour since then too (for the better!). She said she tried to not even look the woman in the eye in case she gave things away with her facial expressions and sat making notes about everything she said.. it was quite bizarre what she was saying and I actually thought I may give it a try.
She told her all sorts of information about the horse, what he was feeling, reasons for his anxiety etc and also what had happened in the past.

The lady was named something Davenport - I'll try and find out her name.. Karen perhaps?

I hope you get to the bottom of it though.. sounds horrible.
 
glenruby - Thanks for that - I really hope it's something simple too.

mik - Yes, noise does seem to be one of the main causes, I think we might try to put ear covers on him tonight (after sedation) and then we'll hopefully we'll get some sleep!

squiz22 - If the bloods come back clear we'll definately be up for trying anything, so thank you :)
 
how awful for you - just on a sideline, if your horse is starting to look like he won't drink, check with your vet if you can give him sugarbeet water. It was the only thing we could get my horse to drink when he was poorly. I know there may be a question mark as you are trying to rule out any changes but it really does do the trick for poorly horses that won't drink.
 
Hi, If he is being noise sensitive than I can recommend the following:
Stuff ears with cotton wool and put a ear veil ( like SJ) over the top. I have to do this for my horse in the lorry as he freaks when the partions make a noise ( I know- stupid creature) with this on he is fine.
 
How about leaving a radio on all night for some background noise? It may help and that new apple flavoued water quencher stuff is reputed to make any horse drink, so may be worth buying a few sachets.
 
Luci07 - He is still drinking at the moment, but I will ask the vet if we can do this just in case he stops. Thanks. We have been adding apple flavoured elecrolytes to his water (this is what we usually do on a hot day/he's worked hard/been competing - so nothing new to him).

charlie76 - Thanks, I don't think even with sedation we would be able to put cotton wool in his ears atm, he's just ridiculous to handle. But we will try the ear covers tonight after he has been sedated slightly so see if it makes a difference.
 
Could you get a reiki practitioner out? I suggest that as you say that in this state the horse is not easy to handle, so a practitioner who has done reiki 2nd degree can send energy from afar - so stand at the stable door. Again - rather a longshot, but horses do love reiki and it may just help. You could also try hanging a lavender oil soaked rag in the stable for calming. I have used all these methods for the stressy aggressive WB I own and they all helped to a degree.
 
So sorry to hear about your horse. I can imagine it being extremely distressing for you :(

Really hope you get to the bottom of the problem, and hopefully its only something really simple.

Good luck and keep us posted

xx
 
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