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I am at a DIY yard, there are only 4 horses/ponies there. 2 of them are mine and I have an arrangement with one of the others where I feed and TO in the mornings and she brings mine in - we all do our own mucking out. The 4th horse is a 5 yr old stallion who lives in all the time, the girl that owns him has decided that it's more fun going to another yard than going to look after her own horse. He is supposed to be fed 3 times a day and ridden every day.

When she first came up I said to her that I will pop his morning feed and hay in when I feed ours as she isn't always able to get there early as she doesn't drive and was relying on a lift. She used to be there every day but over the last few weeks, she's just not bothered. She ran out of feed and was helping herself to ours and also hay that she did not pay towards - she had been using some old hay that was up there until our nice new lot came and she started using that.

We were feeding and mucking out as we didn't know where she was and wasn't answering the phone to any of us, anyway, her feed ran out about 2 weeks ago so she was using ours when she did come up.

She's not been up for over a week and no phone calls or anything to ask if we could help her out (we have told her before to just let us know and we will do him for her)

We saw her just over a week ago and she thought it was funny that she'd not been up and was showing off in front of her friends (from the yard she's been at all the time). We told her her feed had run out (which she knew as she was using ours) and that the YO (who doesn't have anything to do with the yard - he's not horsey, just owns the stables and land as it came with his house) has been looking for her as she'd not paid her livery. She said she would pay him the next day.

No one has seen her since other than one night this week when she said she'd been there at 7 every night which we all know isn't true as we have been there til gone 8-8.30 most nights and there's been no sign of her.

Anyway, her horse has dropped a lot of weight and has started being aggressive with everyone as he's been couped up in his stable - he reared up on me the other day when I was taking his rug off that was hanging round his neck.

The YO has said that she has 2 days to pay or has to leave but we can't get hold of her and are really worried about her poor horse. I have been giving him a feed when I am there in the mornings because I feel so sorry for him but I can't afford to feed 3 every day and she has only put 1 bag of shavings in in over 2 weeks - he is pretty messy too because he is in all day.

Sorry it's so long but really don't know what to do about the situation....
 
Is this yard rented - or is the YO on site?

If the YO is on site he has a duty of care to the horse - and bottom line is that it his responsibility to ensure that it has food and water.

Apart from that I would phone the ILPH or BHS welfare lines - soon rather than later.
 
ring your local BHS welfare officer..

let them deal with her..

it's neglect!!
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I'd go over to the other yard where she is all the time & give her such a dressing down infront of every one, then hawl her sorry ass back your yard to take responsibilty for her horse. If she is going to abandon him then you need to know asap. You made need to call rspca or whw(ilph) . Hope the horse is ok. x
 
The owner just rents out the stables but on the understanding he wants nothing to do with it. We are quite a way from his house.

Thank you, I am worried about reporting her as I think she can be a nasty piece of work, she had problems at her old yard and treatened to go up and do things to the horses.
 
Any reports are anonymous. And unfortunately for your YO he has a huge responsibilty, whether he likes it or not.

I would get on the phone today to the ILPH and / or BHS. As well as your local trading standards officer.

And I would also be looking to keep my horse somewhere where there is responsible management!
 
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The owner just rents out the stables but on the understanding he wants nothing to do with it. We are quite a way from his house.



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Under the new Animal Welfare Act, the YO has a duty of care and is ultimately responsible for the horses' welfare on his/her property. So he cannot "have nothing to do with it". The law was changed because of the exact situation that you are describing - horses being kept on DIY livery and being neglected by their owners and the Yard Owner refusing to do anything about it. Basically the YO needs to sort this out, but I agree with the others - phone the BHS for their advice. Why the hell has she got a stallion anyway - poor thing
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'And I would also be looking to keep my horse somewhere where there is responsible management!'

Definately! Only worry about reporting the horse anon is that there are only tow people on the yard so surely she will be able to guess who it was as the horse is in all the time!
 
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I'd go over to the other yard where she is all the time & give her such a dressing down infront of every one, then hawl her sorry ass back your yard to take responsibilty for her horse. If she is going to abandon him then you need to know asap. You made need to call rspca or whw(ilph) . Hope the horse is ok. x

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I would love to do this but no one knows where she is - not even her best friend - all we know is it is in East Sussex, we are in Surrey!

Think I will be making some phone calls this afternoon

We are doing what we can for him but there's only so much we can do.
 
He's a lovely horse too - we feel so sorry for him - she reckons he's worth 100k and she's got a sponsor who pays for all of her BSJA shows - we don't even know the sponsor or we could contact them about it too!!
 
As above contact WHW[ILPH] or BHS or other local charity TODAY. It is wilful neglect. Why has she got a Stallion? Doesn't sound like a responsible person to own any horse let alone a Stallion. Poor horse, no wonder he is getting agressive. The YO obviously did not know what he was letting himself in for.
All calls are anonymous. You can give your details for an update but they will not be passed on. Has its legs not swollen?
What part of the country are you in?
Please do something officialy today. You obviously care and i could not see a horse starve but in these situations it does not help to do somone elses horse, it ends up like this. I do understand you were trying to help the horse. The best way you can help it now is to reort it and insist something is done. Good luck. Please keep us updated.
Also please do get the YO involved.
 
This is my worry too - think she could turn quite nasty - I could handle it but if she ever did anything to my babies....
 
If she threatens to do something to your horses i would get the police involved and the yo- you are payign him good money to rent his stables and land and are entitled not to feel threatend because of this nasty b!$tch
 
Thanks, We are in Surrey - I think her having a stallion is a status thing tbh - she clearly doesn't care about him!
 
Is there a secure field in which he could be turned out on his own? Obviously it would have to have very good fencing etc but at least he would be able to let off some steam and get some grass. If he could be out 24/7 then even better as you wuldn't have to worry so much about him getting enough food and no need to muck out. It might work short term until you get the situation sorted.
Also, I'd be tempted to slap a b***h the next time the cow comes up the yard
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she's 19.

She takes him off to 3/4 day events but got told to leave early from the last one 2 weeks ago by the BSJA because she was causing trouble!!

Definately think she is living in Cuckoo land!!!
 
Well, you could suggest (and I know this is slightly untruthful, but if the safety of horses are involved...) - anyway, you could suggest that actually it was the YO who called ILPH, or in fact, actually get him to do it. Tell him that it's the best way to take care of the horse and that it'll at least help him in the long run, since if he doesn't, he has its care on his hands, and he could use it as leverage to get his money.

I'd also seriously consider a change of yards. I know that's not always feasible but it doesn't sound like he'd have a clue what to do if, god forbid, something terrible happened.
 
she won't let him out - we have been putting him out for a couple of hours but only place secure enough for him isn't very big but at least he gets some fresh air.

I am really tempted to do that!

Just got a text from other woman at the yard who had bought some feed for him so at least he's going to have a full tummy now.
 
We have tried but her parents live miles away apparently - The only person we know who to find is her best friend and we are going to suggest he come and collect him and take him to his yard. He can't contact her either
 
Good idea, I think I'll go and have a word with him tonight

Thanks everyone - I feel a little better for the horse now

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Tough t*t to her! If she looked after him properly there wouldn't be a problem.

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we have been putting him out for a couple of hours but only place secure enough for him isn't very big but at least he gets some fresh air

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Good, I'm glad that you care for this horse as she's clearly a irresponsible cow. At 19 I worked every weekend all day and evenings at a yard when I was in uni so I could be near horses, she is scum to treat hers like this. Are her parents aware of the situation? I would be surprised if she's the one paying all the bills so I wonder if they know what's going on. My parents have never had anything to do with horses but they would quite rightly kick my backside if I treated any animal like this.

If she's up there as regularly as she says, then he'll only be out for a bit until she gts there, if she doesn't turn up, it's in his best interest to be out. As I see it, either you continue to look after the horse which, as a horse lover, I undersand is your first impulse, or you leave the horse to be neglected, get the ILPH (won't say RSCPA
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I would get a copy of the new legislation and bring it to your YO's attention, as either way it is his responsibility.
 
My parents would have done that to me too. Like we have told this girl until we are blue in the face, if you can't get to they yard, we can do him for you - all she needs to do is bring food and bedding up for him. But this is getting beyond a joke now.

She's not going up there at all, she is lying though her teeth to us!

We don't know where to start to contact her parents - maybe I will ask her friend if he has a number for them

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