Nothing's for free now a days?

Humh..sees strange. I think if your both competing at the same event and she gives you a bit of help she shouldn't charge you. Yes, if she has to drive over there to 'mentor' you then fine but not otherwise.

My instructer is starting to evet this year, and will trael with me and help, but I would be shocked if she asked me to pay her for it(not that i don't mind paying, but she would be doing it to help, not for work).
 
my trainers help me whether we are in a lesson or not - one of my best friends is one of my trainers and she is always on my photobucket reviewing my videos. another trainer turned up at mine an hour early this week for my lesson so she popped in, had a cup of tea, and we went thru my stressage and sj tests and went thru with the test sheets in hand - all part of the job! I would do it for any of my students *when and if i get some!*
 
cripes. i even ring my trainer in Germany for chats and advice, for free!
i think that is very much not the norm tbh.
my sj trainer helps me at events she happens to be at, and when i offered to pay, she refused. i think this is the norm tbh!
 
I've had to read this posting a few times - sorry BUT she's taking the pee..........................
To me she sounds like she wants to have her cake and eat it!!! Surely if you want a bigger client base, you WOULD want to part take in GIVING free chats etc.........good business???? Then your good name would get around and then you can put your pricing to where you think the market can cope..........

Sorry MDS i think someones pulling a fast one on you............ and i would have certainly told her to bog off asking for dosh at comp!!

and i bet you you can get most of this info she wants 'to sell' from here AND it's a free and fun environment!
 
Eeek, I think she's got idea's above her station, don't think she'll have many pupils if she sends them a bill every time they ask her a horse related question!
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And as for paying for her to "mentor" you, you must have money to burn!!!!!
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OTT in my opinion, can't see it working.
 
If i had organised for my instructor to come to a show to warm me up etc i would expect to pay...but if she happened to be there and just give a few words of advise i wouldn't pay.

I wouldn't expect to pay for phone conversations either provideing i wasn't taking up her time for hours on end! or wasn't a regular pupil!
 
Once again, i'm NOT paying for her to mentor me!!! and Nor will i EVER pay for her to mentor me!!!!
So far i've recieved alot of help from her, both at lessons and over the phone, she has even invited me over for super twice!! It was something she mentioned today for the first time, and it shocked me! as it has obviously shocked all you guys..
I am NOT a mug, and she is NOT taking the p!ss, just yet, she's just mentioning that she'd like to take the p!ss some time in the future.
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Re. the charging for the dressage warm up, yes she did did tell me she'd charge, so it wasn't sprung on me out the blue, however i did think it a bit 'off' but at the same time thought it was her 'time' i was paying for, when she could be doing something else..
 
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It was something she mentioned today for the first time, and it shocked me! as it has obviously shocked all you guys..
I am NOT a mug, and she is NOT taking the p!ss, just yet, she's just mentioning that she'd like to take the p!ss some time in the future.


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glad to read this
 
tbh MDS i know that even Yogi is available to talk to his charges and he certinly doesnt charge them for it and i bet you have seeen him walking the course with twenty lofty eventers trailing in his wake and he doesnt charge for that either (i am not talking about the things the public get to do at 4*'s). frankly i would help anyone at a show if i was there already, its a bit different if you go there specially i think, and if i were you i would find a trainer who isnt so money orientated.
 
My daughter's trainer is an International Show Jumper & also one of the highest qualified coachs in the country. We pay for lessons, she's no where near as expensive as you may think for the quality of training we get. We can phone her anytime for advice, she will advise & assist at shows & will sometimes drive over to a show even when not competing herself to help..... all this is part of her 'back up' service & is free. She is proud of her students, they are an advert for her so she looks after them.

All these 'add ons' which your trainer is trying is not a good way to build up a client base at all. I think she will have to change her thinking or she will lose any clients she has already.
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Both my instructors will provide advice free of charge when I phone or text them and my SJ instructor was extremely helpful throughout Jenny's injury even though I wasn't able to compete or have lessons. Before Jenny was injured, if she was at a show that I was at she would always offer to warm me up and give me some advice about the course and put the practice fence up and down for me for which I was always very grateful. I've never thought perhaps I should of been paying her to do any of this - but reading this post I do wonder if I should of been paying her in some way as she really has given me a lot of time over the last year for nothing. Perhaps a bigger pressie next Christmas might be in order? I've got my first lesson in 6 mths booked for Feb 5th and sooo excited.
 
The trainer I used to use fully expected a telephone debrief after events and if she happened to be there she would warm me up for the dressage or SJ (rarely though) - I never expoected to pay her for this. If she had travelled to an event especially to help me, then fair enough.

I did start to worry about it at Blair as she was there and gave me a dressage session on the Wednesday night and a SJing one on the Friday, as well as some other bits and bobs of advice. I took her a card, cake and a couple of bottles of wine afterwards and put in the card to let me know/send me a bill if she wanted any money for it. She said she wouldn't dream of it
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I don't know the new one well enough to have found out yet, but I'm not likely to be as friendly with her as the old trainer so I doubt we'll have the blurred boundaries between social and professional help that were there previously.
 
I really think thats quite off, assuming you're paying for quite a lot of lessons (ie not just having 1 every month and then assuming that she'll warm you up at 3 things a month and spend 4 nights a week on the phone) then isnt that all part of the relationship you build with a trainer?

My trainers are usually at an event and if times allow will always pop to put a fence up or if i'm there when they're walking will always do a course walk with me. Likewise my SJ trainer who is one of the best BSJA trainers in the country will always pop to nearby events to put poles up or speak on the phone/email for ages when i'm mithering!! Thats all part of the course and i'm sure what is expected in that line of work? She must already be getting a good ££ per hour anyway what more does she want?!
 
TBH I think she is taking the p. I don't know of any trainer who would charge a pupil for a conversation. Pay for lessons fair enough but anything else is bad, it will get to the stage where you won't speak until you know how much you'll be charged.

No matter how well you get on I would say that you are unhappy with this, and if she insists on being charges I would question whether she is more interested in your bank balance than a pupil succeeding.
 
im always on the phone to my poor instructor lol!!! and to be honest she puts up with so much from me lol and now she doesnt charge for the "mentoring" but neither would she dram of charging me for helping me at a show - if i'd have asked her to come especially then that would be a different story!!!
 
Just to add - the mentoring thing - well when I went on the BE CDT day last year I was very firmly told that follow-up help by phone and email was freely available to people who had been, and all the CCI* events (and poss 2*) have had a CDT person at them last season who was free to use if you'd done a CDT day or £20 if you hadn't (at least that was the deal at Hartpury I think? Mind may be playing tricks on me?) - and that was all off the back of a one-off training day rather than these people being a regular trainer of mine. So if I had a regular trainer, no I would not pay for that kind of thing, although I agree, I would offer to pay if my trainer offered to warm me up and spent 20 mins with me at a comp.

Over here in the good old US of A it is incredibly common to pay your trainer to accompany you to shows and warm you up etc. Most of the kids don't go without parents paying regular trainer (or substitute) to help at an event.
 
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