Now why would you breed that..?

[stangs]

Just a few ridiculous crosses I've seen advertised today:

Eng. Bulldog x Collie - in case you want an energetic dog but you don't want it too healthy

Mali x Akita - in case you like neurotic dogs but don't like when they warn you before biting

and the award for best mix, the "how did I not think of this sooner" mix:
Pug Tzu x Vizsla

 

[only_me]

Dunno, just seen pups for sale that are

Belgian Shepard x American bully xl

and perhaps even weirder, a breed cross the breeders have dubbed the “mallindale” which are apparently very rare…
Airedale x Belgian malinois

https://www.gumtree.com/p/dogs/airedale-terrier-x-belgian-malinois-/1422846972

 

[bonny]

Dunno, just seen pups for sale that are

Belgian Shepard x American bully xl

and perhaps even weirder, a breed cross the breeders have dubbed the “mallindale” which are apparently very rare…
Airedale x Belgian malinois

https://www.gumtree.com/p/dogs/airedale-terrier-x-belgian-malinois-/1422846972

To b fair to them it was probably an accident not a deliberate mating, they are not expensive and look like healthy pups.

 

[only_me]

To b fair to them it was probably an accident not a deliberate mating, they are not expensive and look like healthy pups.

Now where did I say they were unhealthy or expensive?
It will be interesting how personalities and temperament turns out to be.

 

[planete]

Designer dogs are not selling as well as they used to apparently. It might eventually put a brake on this idiocy. We can but hope.

 

[CorvusCorax]

How can you tell the health of a puppy from a picture?!

 

[TPO]

???

 

[skinnydipper]

and they tell you with absolute confidence and authority that its a wotsit* or watchamacallit* as if its an actual breed.

*replace with bizarre mix of your choice.

 

[TheLoneWanderer]

I grew up with a full bloody Airedale and he was the best dog ever, no idea why you would cross with anything let alone something that is known for being not a Joe bloggs dog

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

Just a few ridiculous crosses I've seen advertised today:

Eng. Bulldog x Collie - in case you want an energetic dog but you don't want it too healthy

Mali x Akita - in case you like neurotic dogs but don't like when they warn you before biting

and the award for best mix, the "how did I not think of this sooner" mix:
Pug Tzu x Vizsla

Bonkers, I posted re a spitz x cocker the other day, pretty pups, but as pointed out, parents looked well dodgy.

Dunno why you’d want to cross something that isn’t madly common, Airedales are blooming fabulous, saw one recently, can’t imagine wanting to cross it. Why? I get outcrosses for health eg in the Dalmatian history or a brachy breed to improve nose length/breathing but otherwise, why?

Edit: the Airedale x puppies look like proper old fashioned mongrels, nice looking pups, but the Airedale parent is gorgeous, I’d love to see a purebred litter from that.

 

[Errin Paddywack]

and perhaps even weirder, a breed cross the breeders have dubbed the “mallindale” which are apparently very rare…
Airedale x Belgian malinois

Lovely looking pups and parents. I am sure they will make stunning looking dogs, just hope they inherit the trainability of the Malinois and not the stubbornness of the Airedale.

 

[palo1]

Airedales are wonderful but I don't think they are particularly suitable as an 'anyone's dog' tbh; they are big and strong and can have typical terrier traits as well as a very strong guarding instinct. Cross that with a Malinois and you could have (not definitely but possibly) a really problematical temperament. I love Airedales and have met some fab dogs but I can only assume this was totally accidental tbh! No idea why anyone would cross either a Malinois or an Airedale with anything let alone mix the two.

 

[Equi]

Look at the size of them for 8weeks old ?

 

[CorvusCorax]

Airedales can be feisty. The only one I know is a nightmare. They can't leave it at home as it wrecks the place and if they leave it in the car it just does circuits, sets the alarm off, stands on the horn etc.
They're still used for sport in Germany.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Lovely looking pups and parents. I am sure they will make stunning looking dogs, just hope they inherit the trainability of the Malinois and not the stubbornness of the Airedale.

If breeding worked as a perfect 50-50, everyone would be doing it!

 

[marmalade76]

Just a few ridiculous crosses I've seen advertised today:

Eng. Bulldog x Collie - in case you want an energetic dog but you don't want it too healthy

Mali x Akita - in case you like neurotic dogs but don't like when they warn you before biting

and the award for best mix, the "how did I not think of this sooner" mix:
Pug Tzu x Vizsla

6 years ago I took on an in pup collie bitch. Possible fathers were a collie and an English Bulldog and I'm sure I don't need to tell you which the father turned out to be. They were all homed to friends & family bar one and they are actually really great dogs, they are very active and considerably healthier than pure bred Bulldogs. They have a lot of collie mannerisms which is a strange sight in a dog that looks more like a Staffy than a collie or a bulldog.

I agree with your sentiment though, to purposefully breed these - why would you? But I'd say there are worse crosses. I certainly rather have a collie/bulldog than a cockerpoo or labradoodle ?

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

Airedales can be feisty. The only one I know is a nightmare. They can't leave it at home as it wrecks the place and if they leave it in the car it just does circuits, sets the alarm off, stands on the horn etc.
They're still used for sport in Germany.

See, this brings up the issue of nature/nurture for me (or breed, not deed, whichever you prefer!) You seem to have had a lot of the same breed, and I think you've been very specific about the lines you'll buy from. This is our 3rd pair and I knew my fil's pair very well too. As my lovely neighbour says (she had gsds all her life, bred a litter back in the day), they're all different. I see similarities but she's not wrong.

Jake would take himself off to a different room, so does Mitch. Jake would destroy beds, so has Mitch. Brig was a busy but calm dog, Bear is the same and would be with the humans 100% of the time, very similar character to Luke, my fil's dog. Zak needed a job. Zak was definitely wired wrong, very like Marcus, my fil's dog. If you bent down to Marcus, he'd likely snap and mean it, otherwise a lovely dog.

Breed specific traits are bred for, plus our expectations of certain breeds are fairly fixed, imo (I nearly peed myself when a mastiff came running up today, had it been an Akita, I would have needed a change of underwear) Certainly in springer lines, FtCh is important so dogs with drive/focus, but training obviously is also key. Despite quite fancying a pointer, I've heard they're 'hard' dogs, so I won't ever have one. I like the softness/sloppiness of springers, although I know a soppy pointer.

I don't suppose you can assign a definitive character to a dog unless you've relentlessly bred for it. The current 2 are very different.

 

[CorvusCorax]

See, this brings up the issue of nature/nurture for me (or breed, not deed, whichever you prefer!) You seem to have had a lot of the same breed, and I think you've been very specific about the lines you'll buy from. This is our 3rd pair and I knew my fil's pair very well too. As my lovely neighbour says (she had gsds all her life, bred a litter back in the day), they're all different. I see similarities but she's not wrong.

Jake would take himself off to a different room, so does Mitch. Jake would destroy beds, so has Mitch. Brig was a busy but calm dog, Bear is the same and would be with the humans 100% of the time, very similar character to Luke, my fil's dog. Zak needed a job. Zak was definitely wired wrong, very like Marcus, my fil's dog. If you bent down to Marcus, he'd likely snap and mean it, otherwise a lovely dog.

Breed specific traits are bred for, plus our expectations of certain breeds are fairly fixed, imo (I nearly peed myself when a mastiff came running up today, had it been an Akita, I would have needed a change of underwear) Certainly in springer lines, FtCh is important so dogs with drive/focus, but training obviously is also key. Despite quite fancying a pointer, I've heard they're 'hard' dogs, so I won't ever have one. I like the softness/sloppiness of springers, although I know a soppy pointer.

I don't suppose you can assign a definitive character to a dog unless you've relentlessly bred for it. The current 2 are very different.

I keep a certain type but I've worked (voluntarily) with many others.
There are of course generalisations, and exceptions, but you find certain breeds of dogs and horses are good at/bad at certain roles, jobs and sports. That's because of genetics.
Nothing will convince me otherwise, based on my own experience.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

I keep a certain type but I've worked (voluntarily) with many others.
There are of course generalisations, and exceptions, but you find certain breeds of dogs and horses are good at/bad at certain roles, jobs and sports. That's because of genetics.
Nothing will convince me otherwise, based on my own experience.

To what can one therefore attribute failed racehorses-not fast enough-or failed gun dogs-scared of the noise/not brave enough? Just anomalies? Exception to prove the rule?

 

[Gloi]

Airedales are wonderful but I don't think they are particularly suitable as an 'anyone's dog' tbh; they are big and strong and can have typical terrier traits as well as a very strong guarding instinct. Cross that with a Malinois and you could have (not definitely but possibly) a really problematical temperament. I love Airedales and have met some fab dogs but I can only assume this was totally accidental tbh! No idea why anyone would cross either a Malinois or an Airedale with anything let alone mix the two.

My late mother always had an Airedale in her young days

 

[Hackback]

Omg I looked at the Airedale x Mali pups just out of curiosity but they are gorgeous! They do look like proper old fashioned mongrels.

That Mali has very short legs and is quite thick set for a pure bred.

 

[palo1]

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My late mother always had an Airedale in her young days

Gorgeous!! I love them I do think though, that with strong terrier traits and a really powerful physique this could be a breed (if it were fashionable or irresponsibly bred) that could be really difficult. In the same way that gun dogs and herding dogs tend to need lots of mental work to keep them happy, terriers need to do their thing too and if they can't, well a dog of this size and capability could be a nightmare!!

 

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*peeks over parapet*

I quite like those Airedale x Malinois babies

*ducks below parapet and legs it*

 

[CorvusCorax]

To what can one therefore attribute failed racehorses-not fast enough-or failed gun dogs-scared of the noise/not brave enough? Just anomalies? Exception to prove the rule?

I did say that there are exceptions, but a failed racehorse is generally a thoroughbred, not a Clydesdale or a Shetland.
Horses for courses, literally.
Not everyone in the family can be brilliant at everything.
A gundog is usually a gundog breed.
Not a whippet or a greyhound.
Again noise sensitivity can run in certain lines.

 

[CorvusCorax]

That Mali has very short legs and is quite thick set for a pure bred.

Not really, there's a lot of variation in the breed.

 

[stangs]

Updating as I think we have a new contender for the best mix award - *drum roll please* - Dachshund x Akita.

Not the most unhealthy mix out there, and maybe the smaller size makes the Akita temperament more manageable, but how do you even come up with that as an idea?

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

Updating as I think we have a new contender for the best mix award - *drum roll please* - Dachshund x Akita.

Not the most unhealthy mix out there, and maybe the smaller size makes the Akita temperament more manageable, but how do you even come up with that as an idea?

Wtf? And how does it work physically? Christ, I hope the Akita was the dam! (Several copies of the Yellow pages?!) We bumped into a daxie we’ve met before, he’s teeny.

I’m sure I posted this the other day-thought I saw a Finnish laphund, owner told me it was a Pom x husky.

 

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Wtf? And how does it work physically? Christ, I hope the Akita was the dam! (Several copies of the Yellow pages?!) We bumped into a daxie we’ve met before, he’s teeny.

I’m sure I posted this the other day-thought I saw a Finnish laphund, owner told me it was a Pom x husky.

pom x husky is unfortunately getting quite popular thanks to social media