Oh dear

This used to be what my mare looked like - I bet some people on here wouldn't have looked twice at her - and she is well bred. Believe it or not, she is starting to look positively cob like now!! I dont' see how you can see whether a horse is well bred or not just from a photo.
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JFTD said:
:eek::eek::eek:

I have two highlands in the field with an ROI cob - the cob is presumably Roman Catholic and the highlands are probably wee frees or some such very protestant denomination :eek:

It's a miracle they haven't killed each other yet :eek:
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Thats obviously your cue to pay out vast amounts of money to an animal communicator. Would love to be there when if you asked one to find out what religion your horses are.
 
JFTD said:
Interestingly today, most catholics believe and are taught that the wafer and wine are symbolic of the body and blood.

But during the reformation (16th C) Catholics were taught the doctrine of transubstantiation - that after consecration the wafer and wine literally became the body and blood of christ.

The reformists and protestants were ever logical and argued that if Jesus sits on the right hand of God in heaven, he could not also be in the wine and wafer during the celebration of the mass. Therefore Protestants were taught the doctrine of consubstantiation - wine and wafer are symbolic.

And THAT is a digression of epic proportions.


NB - this is my recollection of studying the period years ago - I cannot be held accountable for any minor factual errors :p
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If I google now and find errors I'm holding you personally responsible :D :p

But thats interesting info, I never thought I'd say that religion made sense, but the Protestant POV on it certainly does ( ;) )

I dont understand religion though, so much of it contradicts itself that it confuses me :D (not that that's particularly hard :p )
 
Spring Feather said:
Trot_On_Dressage Third time lucky perhaps? :rolleyes: What are the bloodlines of your high quality horses please?
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Don't know about the OP but I can proudly announce that the hideous yak I posted photos of is reasonably well bred (by Sir Game the advanced eventer, out of Graefin Vii http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/graefin+vii) still looked like a yak when I first met him though.
 
rockysmum said:
Thats obviously your cue to pay out vast amounts of money to an animal communicator. Would love to be there when if you asked one to find out what religion your horses are.
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LMAO. You know the "how many horses if you won the lottery thread"? If I win the lottery I'm going to spend my life calling out animal communicators to ask them things like "what religion is my horse?" "Which football team does he support?" "What are his views on string theory?" :D:D:D:D
 
shockingly bad photos of all those horses for sale... its a wonder any ever leave that yard!

no way of telling what any horse is like from a photo- the camera an tell a lot of lies... depending on how well, or badly the photo is taken!! :p

i hope these horses find the right homes, but i would not give this dealer, or any like him a penny of my hard earned cash... just fueling the fire. :( xx
 
Spring Feather said:
Yes lovely horse DH1. It wouldn't take a year to get that horse on OPs link up to scratch. A couple of months of good feed and a gradual exercise plan would transform this mare.
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I don't think a couple of months would do it if she came to me I would give 3 months TLC before I even thought about an exercise plan ,sort feet sort worms sort back and muscle problems check for ulcers if she's been in training then when she was looking better I would reback her ( omg it might be fun my OH will divorce me if I get any more )
 
ABC said:
If I google now and find errors I'm holding you personally responsible :D :p

But thats interesting info, I never thought I'd say that religion made sense, but the Protestant POV on it certainly does ( ;) )

I dont understand religion though, so much of it contradicts itself that it confuses me :D (not that that's particularly hard :p )
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I find religion - particularly the changes during the reformation - fascinating. But it's all lost on me - good old fashioned heathen. But just because I'm a faithless individual doesn't mean I don't respect people who do have faith :)

I should emphasise, I ask virtually every catholic I meet whether they believe in con or transubstantiation and all thus far have said con - so today's catholics are not (imo) mad as hatters :)
 
Faracat said:
Please can you explain what conformation faults you see that cannot be explained away by the angle that the horse is standing at?

^ Genuine question. :)

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Well that very helpful red line wasnt in the original picture for a start ;)

But even if it was standing straight it is still croup high with a low set on neck and poss sway back.
 
The more I see the pic the more I want to take the mare, her little face says it all. :(
if I could get cheap transport I would give her a home but fat chance off that I'm in Devon. It she was local I would grab her but transport holds me back
 
JFTD said:
I find religion - particularly the changes during the reformation - fascinating. But it's all lost on me - good old fashioned heathen. But just because I'm a faithless individual doesn't mean I don't respect people who do have faith :)

I should emphasise, I ask virtually every catholic I meet whether they believe in con or transubstantiation and all thus far have said con - so today's catholics are not (imo) mad as hatters :)
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You should ask my mum, honestly :rolleyes: she'd fit in your "mad as hatters" group ;) :D
 
Trot_On_Dressage said:
Well that very helpful red line wasnt in the original picture for a start ;)

But even if it was standing straight it is still croup high with a low set on neck and poss sway back.
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She is not just standing downhill, she pointing away from the camera so no way to tell if she is croup high.

Her neck is so skinny its impossible to tell what she would look like with some decent weight and muscle on. As skinny as she is, she is hardly going to have any top line so I dont see have you could possibly guess she is sway backed either.
 
Trot_On_Dressage said:
I find you quite rude. I can grasp the concept but i really dont see the big crime in saying a horse is ugly.
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I apologize for coming across as rude. It wasn't meant to sound insulting, I was exasperated.

I love horses, all horses. I actually don't think any horse is truly ugly. Some are definitely more beautiful than others, but all have their value, to me. I was incensed at the idea of laughing at a horse for its looks, but I've calmed down now. :o
 
JFTD said:
Are you sure you'll be able to manage without our holy mistress's input? :confused:
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I've managed it for half a century but now the OP entered my life I really don't know whether I can see out the next half century without her input .... although having just seen the CC on Faracats photo .... hmm maybe I'll just stick to doing my own CCs :)
 
And a possible swayback rubbish. You can see from the cars parked at the back there is a slope and the way the mare is standing, that there is nothing wrong just the way the person is sitting on her and the way she is stood and a rotten photo, just hope she finds a decent home.
 
ABC said:
Some nice breeding there to be fair :)
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And yet he still looked awful and most people wouldn't touch him with a barge pole! Turned out ok though. All horses deserve to be taken on their individual merits. Breeding isn't everything and nor are looks, especially if based on a dodgy photo. How could you possibly know without going to look in the flesh whether a horse was any cop? :confused:
 
JFTD said:
Shhhhh I try very hard to maintain my "interested but not bigoted or discriminatory" manner and belief structure :eek:
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Haha, you've gotta be calm to talk about religion to people, it always ends up as a mass argument whenever we talk about it :D

(was going to put mass debate but changed my mind, 'cos I'm immature like that :D )
 
jesstickle said:
And yet he still looked awful and most people wouldn't touch him with a barge pole! Turned out ok though. All horses deserve to be taken on their individual merits. Breeding isn't everything and nor are looks, especially if based on a dodgy photo. How could you possibly know without going to look in the flesh whether a horse was any cop? :confused:
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You can't :) which is pretty much why there's 30 - odd pages of people disagreeing with the OP :D
 
I am sure this mare will be croup high however she is standing and at 5 she is too old to even up her back looks very weak and not just because her condition this is a difficult combination of problems to deal with one of my best horse was a little croup high but because she had strong back conformation ( that word again) she was trainable and sucessful. But those two things would be enough for me not to consider this mare .
I quite like to buy a horse who looks quite poor because it very easy to assess conformation when they are thin far harder when they are fat.
 
Spring Feather said:
I've managed it for half a century but now the OP entered my life I really don't know whether I can see out the next half century without her input .... although having just seen the CC on Faracats photo .... hmm maybe I'll just stick to doing my own CCs :)
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Oooooooh *goes to check it out*

If you're sure you can manage all by yourself? Are you sure this mare isn't one of yours? I mean, with her horrible conformation (sorry, confIrmation) and your obvious lack of knowledge, she must have come from a breeder as lacking in standards as you :D
 
Trot_On_Dressage said:
Well that very helpful red line wasnt in the original picture for a start ;)

But even if it was standing straight it is still croup high with a low set on neck and poss sway back.
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She's not perfect. I think that she may be a tad back at the knee. I cannot really judge her back with any confidence due to the rider. To be fair, being downhill is an advantage to a racehorse. When you just look at the spine and ignore the usual tall wither that TB's have - it is actually very hard to find a level TB, let alone a truely uphill one. Of course many can be trained to move 'uphill'. I think that she hasn't finished growing either and she is in poor condition. She has definition between her neck and chest, plus her neck will look alot better once she's properly muscled and in good condition.
 
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