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I know a lot of people have used it with great success in puppies (working trials training though) but I don't know if it would conflict with gundog training. Perhaps others could advise.

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I don't see why it would
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Actually, I was also thinking today - Damn you HH, I have been thinking about you and Henry a lot today!! - that once on the Gundog and Birdog Forum someone made an excellent post about curing this problem by taking a whole cooked chicken with them and literally threw loads of it around him so that the dog had an absolute feast everytime it came back. It was a few years ago now and I can't find the post
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But it worked infact I don't think the dog hardly ever left his side
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We do that for sits/downs/stays - if the dog doesn't sit after the first command, you put it in a sit physically (gently!) rather than nag the dog 'sit, sit, sit' - once it has ignored the first command, why would it listen after the third or fourth?
Also with stay, I mark a spot (but move it around) and when the dog moves, it gets put back in the spot.

So it could work well with recall too and I may try it next time we start to flag
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you put it in a sit physically (gently!)

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LOL - well if HH does drag Henry back by his ears or physically push him down (not gently) at least it will make her feel better!!
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I tried that with Otto.
It has worked with his stop whistle, but for recall it just seem to dent his trust in me slightly and make him even less inclined to come near me!
It would seem that for all his thick-skinned stupidity, he is also fairly sensitive
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I know that it has worked for my Dad in the past though, so anything's worth a shot!
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Remind me again, why do people still want Spaniels after reading the posts on here???
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