Oh my, give it a break!

To the OP, you have complained about people making unpleasant comments, and have also complained about people being patronizing, I think the latter is your perception rather than the reality. I am sure that people on the forum do not know/research the knowledge base of every poster, nor should they be espected to. Some people would find the answers you have quoted helpful, others would not, surely it is up to the person who asked the question to take the advice they find most fitting.
 
There are also HHOers that seem to only post on threads when they become a bit heated! Don't seem to see much of them on the day to day nice posts.


:rolleyes:
 
See, I don't necessarily find these answer patronising which leads me to believe that a lot of the problem is that you can't read "tone" on the internet. So what one person finds patronising, another may find reasonable and another may find helpful.

Rotchana said:
What gets me is how patronising the nasties can be with curt short answers, assuming some people haven't thought an issue through before posting.
eg, How do I make my horse use the field shelter?
ans: Why do you want to "make them", they'll use it if they're cold.
(not thoughts about hay being in there, horse too stupid and shivering in cold, horse genuinely frightened of enclosed spaces, poaching of land in front of shelter)

eg, My horse is disunited in canter? Any advice?
ans: Have you had it's back, teeth checked? It might be a schooling issue.
(obviously)

My horse is spooky being shod, what can I do?
ans: go without shoes
(no thoughts about the need for corrective farriery orowners restricted to road hacking, crappy Tb feet)

What can I do about mudfever?
ans: use turnout boots
(no thoughts about paddock care, old injuries preventing their use)

My horse is loosing weight
ans: get its teeth checked and feed it more
(:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:)

These types of answers are so patronising and arrogant.:mad:
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Beyond that though, I agree that the venom directed at certain posters has gone to extremes. I can understand why people get frustrated by them but when it reaches a point where they are posting on threads only to repeat the same criticisms, it's time to ignore the poster in question.
 
Precisely why I don't come on here much anymore, sadly.

There are some lovely, lovely members on here but unfortunately one bad apple (or two) seems to spoil the whole barrel for me (sorry, don't mean to offend anyone by likening you to apples but if you were I would say you are Pink Lady's, rather sweet and addictive, spoiled by a couple of crabs ...:D

xxx
 
I think giudo6? has it right. I do answer questions on the forum. I don't mean to rude but some people take it that way, but I like to be straight foward in my answers and have gotten shot down many times in the past. I come from the age (land from long ago) when horsemenship was taught and if you made a mistake you were told about it, that way you learnt, and things horsewise was taken slower and to the benifit of both horse and owner/rider.That has gone by the board to me, as everyone wants instant results when things go wrong. What happened to give them TIME:(:(:(
 
Rotchana said:
What gets me is how patronising the nasties can be with curt short answers, assuming some people haven't thought an issue through before posting.
eg, How do I make my horse use the field shelter?
ans: Why do you want to "make them", they'll use it if they're cold.
(not thoughts about hay being in there, horse too stupid and shivering in cold, horse genuinely frightened of enclosed spaces, poaching of land in front of shelter)

eg, My horse is disunited in canter? Any advice?
ans: Have you had it's back, teeth checked? It might be a schooling issue.
(obviously)

My horse is spooky being shod, what can I do?
ans: go without shoes
(no thoughts about the need for corrective farriery orowners restricted to road hacking, crappy Tb feet)

What can I do about mudfever?
ans: use turnout boots
(no thoughts about paddock care, old injuries preventing their use)

My horse is loosing weight
ans: get its teeth checked and feed it more
(:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:)

These types of answers are so patronising and arrogant.:mad:
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Gosh, are they? :eek: I honestly wouldn't consider any of them arrogant or patronising if they were said to me.
 
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enfys said:
Gosh, are they? :eek: I honestly wouldn't consider any of them arrogant or patronising if they were said to me.
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I would ...... like you say, they're common sense. Noone would post these types of questions surely, without considering these obvious responses first?

To me, it seems, many answers assume an OP posing a question, is an utter imbecile, THAT's patronising.
 
brighteyes said:
But, when horse welfare is in question, expect me to arrive on the scene (braced for a heated discussion or with my shoulder for crying on) as I would in any RL situation, and give my opinion.

For example - a borderline laminitic being let out to grass too early - I'll declare war. An old horse really needing to be allowed to 'go' - I'll reason gently, do research on the situation if history is there, and offer whatever support I can.

Some people you can try to help and they'll do what they can with your advice. If it is given and ignored and the upshot is further decline of a situation, what do you expect to happen?

... I really don't know of an example where genuine cries for help have been ignored. And I don't think I have EVER seen the forum lose patience with a genuine case of need.

....There is a very serious side to HHO - concerning the welfare of horses in health and exercise. Don't mess about with it and expect to be allowed 'age' as an excuse. It is easy to sort the snippy remarks from proper advice being delivered in exasperation. Some people are just beyond help. They don't bother me at all - but their horses and ponies do. Sorry but someone needs to speak up for them.
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Ditto this! Whilst I agree there are a handful on here who just want to be argumentative to put others down, the majority of heated threads arise because people are seriously concerned for the welfare of the horses concerned.
 
Rotchana said:
I would ...... like you say, they're common sense. Noone would post these types of questions surely, without considering these obvious responses first?

To me, it seems, many answers assume an OP posing a question, is an utter imbecile, THAT's patronising.
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But the trouble is, there have been so many cases where it has turned out the the poster hasn't actually addressed what most would assume to be the 'common sense' issues and the horse hasn't been wormed, had teeth checked, been fed appropriately etc., etc. So people feel they have to question whether these issues have been addressed before they can give further advice.

I would suggest that people who are posting for advice actually read back through their question and look at it from the view of someone who doesn't know them and their horse at all. If you have addressed all the 'common sense' issues, then let the forum know everything you have already checked in your post!
 
If, as an example, someone's opening post is something like, 'My horse bucks, what can I do' then I wouldn't see asking whether normal checks have been done as patronising, just as asking for more information to get a clearer idea of the picture. That's always my intention if I ask such questions anyway, I certainly hope I don't come across as patronising as I don't mean to!

Also, not everyone does know, how often do you see riders walloping horses for being 'naughty' when every inch of that horse's body language is saying 'OUCH'? So you shouldn't assume.
 
Well thanks for all the replies.

Just seen someone decide to leave the forum, it's so upsetting that someone has been upset so much on here they decide to leave.
It's not fair on anyone really.
 
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