Oh s**t, advice please... think Daisy might just have fitted.

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Little Daisy is our mini JRT pup, 5 and a half months old.

She has been lying next to me on the sofa like she always does but noticed she was quivering and shaking intermittently. After a bit she leapt off the sofa ran to the dogs bed and threw up. Then she started doing this wierd thing where she looked like she was trying to rub her nose/face on the bed but kept missing it completely... very odd.

That was about 15 mins ago and she is lying down next to me still quivering but has been playing a bit since.

There has been a fair bit of talk about the russells being prone to fits etc so I think I have been on red alert looking out for things... perhaps I am worrying over nothing and she has perhaps eaten something she shouldn't have done but I'm really worried all the same.

What do you think? SSM are you out there?
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I've not heard about Russells being prone to fits, but it may be worth a vet check just incase, especially if you're really worried - it'll put your mind at rest.

I'd be inclined to see if it happens again first.
 
One of our Bassets does that with her bed if she has thrown up - she also does it when she's nesting for puppies! A vet told me it stems from when they were wild; it would have been looked upon as food by others so they try to hide it away for later on!
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It does just sound as if she's eaten something that didn't agree with her - or too much of something! She might just sleep it off or then again have another sickness session, bit like us really but if it happens for too long I'd get vet advice. I'm pretty sure, unless they are the type of vets that like fleecing people, they will say keep her quiet and keep an eye on her.
 
Thanks Pat, that puts my mind at rest a bit.

To start with I thought she was just rubbing her head on her bed like they do when they have had a bath but she was missing the bed with her head completely and seemed unbalanced and disorientated- it was that and the repetitiveness that made my blood run cold...

She has stopped shaking now and is fast asleep on my lap. Will be keeping a very close eye... she is such a precious little thing!
 
Watch her closely when she wakes up, you'll get a good idea if she's still feeling groggy then but the best thing is for her to sleep it off.

I would imagine even Weasel would make about a dozen of her!!
 
She has woken up now and yes she does seem very groggy... she's wandered off to my other bitch who VERY interestingly is being unusually tolerant and motherly with her
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just watched the other dog curl up and snuggle down right next to Daisy... they aren't daft are they.
 
Never knew JRTs are prone to fits, i have a 6 month old male JRT too....

Hope it's nothing serious but i would call the vet... they should have 24 hour phone line??? (mine does)
 
Just got through to vets- they were lovely, really helpful.

Seemed more worried about the vomiting than the possible fit- I'm to keep her warm and quiet and give her a bit of boiled rice and scambled egg this evening and see how she does with it, any problems then bring her down to them so they can check her over.

Thanks everyone
 
I never knew JRTs were prone to fits - the only one I know of that has fitted is Bumble. I echo what MFH says, it really sounds as if she has eaten something that has disagreed with her. Our JRT used to be a bit shaky sometimes for no reason, as if she was lying on a nerve. It got worse when she was older, but it was never a problem.
 
I'm trying to remember where I read about russells being prone to fits... thought it was on here but perhaps not, beginning to doubt myself now...

Definitely read it somewhere unless I have get myself in a confused muddle which we all know is MORE than likely lol!
 
Just a quick reply - my breed is prone to hereditary epilepsy but this does'nt usually show untill the dog is around 2 years of age - not sure if this is true of all inherited epilepsy but if so it might put your mind at rest.

We've had two with this condition - one lived until he was nearly 15 and was given daily phenobarbitone and Mysceline tablets to control his fits - the other fitted very rarely and had no medication - we lost her to liver cancer at the age of 14 - so even if it turns out to be Epilepsy it is by no means the end of the world
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Ah bless......bet u where really worried there hun.........If it was a fit there is no need to worry at this early stage as milor said it is a treatable condition........some dogs can have one bad fit and never take another for the remainder of its life others few and far between, but the condition can be controlled with medication in most cases.
She may have gotten some vomit in her nasal passage causing a stinging sensation which could have caused her to freak out a little shaking and rubbing her head.......my rotti does this when she has eaten something she shouldnt have and it does not agree with her......she shakes her head furiously and I can actually see the fluid flying out of her nostrils.......just before she is about to have an episode she jumps up and runs into another room and begins to shake(hence I know whats coming next)
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my OH was panick stricken the first time she did it.
Its early stages.........so try not to think the worst
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P.s I am stuck at work answering the emergency phones
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......so thought I would try and extend the advise to the computer........hope she feels a little better.....keep us posted
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Thanks CALA, I'm feeling much more relaxed about it all now. Shes been pottering about playing with her toys all evening and looks completely normal.

Stinging vomit in the nose could well explain what she was doing actually.

Will continue to keep a close eye on her. Feel a bit silly for making such a big deal..
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still, better safe than sorry.
 
Too right.....defo safe than sorry I know how mammys worry about their little doggies.......at least with the advise you have gotten and speaking to the vets u feel a little at ease
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the nuzzling at nothing thing is there way over covering up . my dog does it if he tries to hide a bone in the corner of the couch. Its like he is trying to cover it with dirt to hide it, but its on my couch and there is no mud there!!!!! lol lol little monster.

I hope she is feeling okay. I suppose its like us when we feel a bit sick, you can get that shakey way.

having a good vet to phone and put you at ease is wonderful .
 
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Sadly it is a JRT problem, have a look at JRT websites. Will PM you

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I've never heard of it being a problem in JRTs, just out of interest could you please PM me the website(s) you've found this info on? I've looked on numerous sites and cannot find anything mentioned.
 
well seems to me that ur pup is a bit sick as soon as u get her checked please pm me causd i absolutely love russels!!
best of wishes to u and to Daisy!!
 
Hi Izt

Bit late on this one but you aren't going mad. I postedin the SB about Dandy having some odd behaviour when he woke up one day and SSM very kindly answered and postedvid's of dogs having mild and serious fits to see if that was what Dandy did. She also posted some great advice.

Here's the link to the post

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/sh...rue#Post1806074

I hope Daisy is ok now.
 
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