ok HHO what do you think of this? *vid*

Doesn't look the slightest bit bothered really, does she?

ok, 23 months........not how we do things this side of the pond but i'm sure 22/24 months is the norm over in the US and Canada.....

Quite a strapping animal for a filly of 23 months though
 
he's riding a racking horse....walking horses, standardbreds etc are ridden as such..it's supposed to help with the animals balance to produce a certain gait.....
 
Aside from whether it's right or wrong to be riding a filly so young, you have to admit he has a great seat. He doesn't move! Wish my sitting trot was as un-bouncy as that.
 
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They have not got the that one yet " MR Castle Mouse ":p

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I just posted exactly what I thought of him...
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normally will defend people starting healthy horses with light work at this age.

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Absolutely agree with above, i've seen big, strong healthy youngsters coping fine and enjoying light work at this age... BUT this video is horrible, that horse actually looks like a scrawny little foal baby - with his head up and back hollow obviously uncomfortable.
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What a wimp to keep deleting the comments, obviously some people cant handle the truth.
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Poor horse.
 
Glad I found all you! Thanks for all the comments, keep them coming. You see, I'm a web designer with the knowledge of editing video and if you pay very close attention you will notice there are only 5 clips of the little racking machine. All the others have been duplicated in the video. This was taken while the filly was being rode for 15 minutes and yes she's young but Gaited horses mature much younger than most Dressage horses, Quarter horses, etc. I have x-rays to prove that her joints are closed and she is very sound and very healthy. All my horses get a full vet exam and are not started undersaddle until this is proven. And by the way the lardass on the horse is my husband and the temperature for that day was 19 degrees and he has on many layers of clothing. I made the video to show how responsive the offspring of my stallion is at starting ages which is 22 months. Their bred to gait and gait is what they do. Other gaited breeds takes years to get to the point where she is at, which was her 3rd 15 minute ride undersaddle. You might want to try one or come out and ride with us. I'm sure you would be able to keep up with one of our young horses with you daily conditioned peak 6 year old whatever breed it is that you ride, but I surely doubt it. Why not read and learn more about the breed before you go bashing someone's animal that is very much loved and taken care of every minute of the day. Your the ones that give the horse industry a bad name. Like I said, thanks for all the comments and keep them coming!!!LOL
 
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Your the ones that give the horse industry a bad name. Like I said, thanks for all the comments and keep them coming!!!LOL

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Oh, I don't think so. I think WE'RE the ones who CARE enough about horses to voice our concerns.
FTR I still think your filly is too small and immature to cope with all that pounding. As for your defence that they're 'bred' to rack at a very young age... well, racehorses are bred to race, aren't they?... How do you think that works out for all the thousands of thoroughbreds that end up on the scrap heap every year?
 
Gaited horses mature younger? Absolute claptrap! Everyone who wants to overwork babies uses that argument to justify their behaviour.
 
Can I just ask a question? Why the rush to do this with a 2 year old. Why couldn't you wait until she was 4 for example - I'm just interested. Big European horses bred for showjumping or dressage will mature between the ages of 4-6 - other types mature at a much younger age. The horse in the video clip does not look mature to me for any type of horse.
 
Buy one and see professor. If you knew anything about horses in general you would have known this. Get a life!


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Gaited horses mature younger? Absolute claptrap! Everyone who wants to overwork babies uses that argument to justify their behaviour.

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Can I just ask a question? Why the rush to do this with a 2 year old. Why couldn't you wait until she was 4 for example - I'm just interested. Big European horses bred for showjumping or dressage will mature between the ages of 4-6 - other types mature at a much younger age. The horse in the video clip does not look mature to me for any type of horse.

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This filly isn't rushed at all. She's rode once a week for 10 to 15 minutes. She was very responsive undersaddle and that's why the video was made. This was her 3rd time under saddle and if you look at most grown gaited horse videos, they don't gait this well at age 5 or 6. She has a very athletic build and a big bone and if you knew anything about gaited horses you would have caught this. She's 15 hands and very sturdy with lots of stamina and heart. Opinions are like nose holes, everyone has them.
 
Well thanks for your response - we will agree to differ then. However the fact I know nothing about 'gaiting' does not mean I know nothing about young horses - to the contrary in fact. You are welcome on this forum to enter into debate - we all learn from it - but don't come here to be rude and insult people - you just make yourself look ignorant.
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I don't know anything about 'racking' but have to say the little one looked very young and immature to be ridden.

Can you tell us something about it, and why it's so useful to start them so young?

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Well thanks for your response - we will agree to differ then. However the fact I know nothing about 'gaiting' does not mean I know nothing about young horses - to the contrary in fact. You are welcome on this forum to enter into debate - we all learn from it - but don't come here to be rude and insult people - you just make yourself look ignorant.
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Looking ignorant, I would say all the members of this forum that was bashing my video really done this forum justice and you all know how to debate. All the name calling and you want me to be nice???If this is what you refer to as a "debate" I do not want to be part of it. I think all the name calling from the "members" of this forum really should make horse and hound proud. What a joke!!!
 
Just because she looked young doesn't mean she's not mature enough to go under saddle. By viewing a video you can't tell how mature a horse really is. This was her third ride under saddle and she was gaiting more than most 5 year olds and doing it all on her own. Any other gaited breed that's 5 or 6 years old isn't this consistent undersaddle with many hours of wet saddle blankets. When you first start gaited horses undersaddle after all the ground work they barely gait no matter what age. It's her responsiveness under saddle that I'm portraying here.
 
If this is true and this mare had only been under saddle three times prior to the making of this video and she is only worked once per week at 10 minute sessions I stand corrected and I am very impressed. It would be hard for anyone to imagine that a horse that age would be doing what she is doing without a LOT of work and as you say "wet saddle blankets"

Seeing as you are the owner and I am not there I have no way to dispute that. I still stand firm that this man may be too large for her right at this point though and therefore I hope what you say is the truth. It does help that he is a very smooth rider on her young back but weight is weight no matter how still you can sit.
Nobody has denied that she is pretty special though and you are lucky to have her.


I really appreciate your responding to us on here and taking the time to defend your position so clearly and detailed. I have to wonder though why you deleted the comments on youtube instead of simply responding to them as you did here? I understand deleting the comments that could be considered name calling but why the honest ones that just simply disagree and question your methods?

I think leaving the negative comments with a response and defending yourself ( as you have done here) would be better than just deleting them and leaving only the ones that sound "good" to you.

No matter what some will wonder about this video weather they comment or not. I think it would be helpful to those who may question this video to hear what you have to say and explain how little work she has. I think a few responses to negative comments left would most likely stop further negative comments as well and it would save you a lot of time deleting. I also think it would benefit you in that people will really see how special she is as it is hard to just assume how a horse has been trained by a random video. I would clarify that as it is a video put out to the entire world by you.

I know that hearing your stance has softened how I feel about it a bit.



That would save you tracking down every place on the internet where it may be discussed alternatively and in turn having to take the time to respond to comments that you cannot delete. Just my opinion is all as it would save effort and perhaps open peoples eyes to the facts about your horse.


again, welcome and I hope you stick around!
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I would like that! I actually started on here defending myself a bit under some controversy and I never left .................
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Lots of great people , lots of fun and also a lot to learn. You may even be able to give out some advice .


I know I have defended just the type of horses you own a few times on here before for other reasons and it would be good to have a person who actually HAS gaited horses to give input for the next round
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Looking ignorant, I would say all the members of this forum that was bashing my video really done this forum justice and you all know how to debate. All the name calling and you want me to be nice???If this is what you refer to as a "debate" I do not want to be part of it. I think all the name calling from the "members" of this forum really should make horse and hound proud. What a joke!!!

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I didn't bash your husband or your horse! My comment was purely that whether people think riding a filly that young is right or wrong he had a cracking seat and didn't move at all. I also wished that my sitting trot could be that un-bouncy!
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There have been debates like this before on this forum. In America and Canada I believe it's pretty much normal to back horses between 18 months and 2 years. It's the same over here for our racing industry.
 
I have to agree with you Rackingon; my neighbour has gaited horses (Saddlebreds and TWH's) and hers are older than yours and certainly are nowhere near as proficient as your little Gabby.

She certainly does look like she is thoroughly enjoying herself and has a very fluid motion. Yes your husband does look large on her, however coming from Canada, I know exactly how much larger we all become in the winter!
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What beautiful horses you have, by the way. All of them are stunning.
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Having just looked at the farm webpage I have to agree that her Stallion is amazing.
 
I have to say I am impressed by this filly's ability - and the proof of the pudding will be in her longevity as a superb example of a gaited horse in the show pen. I hope we get the opportunity to witness her success.

There are quite enough horses ruined by inappropriate training at any age to get too upset about whether one culture is more correct than another. Train the horse at a level it can cope with and aim for a healthy, happy animal for years to come - in both mind and body.

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Well thanks for your response - we will agree to differ then. However the fact I know nothing about 'gaiting' does not mean I know nothing about young horses - to the contrary in fact. You are welcome on this forum to enter into debate - we all learn from it - but don't come here to be rude and insult people - you just make yourself look ignorant.
Have a lovely weekend.

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Looking ignorant, I would say all the members of this forum that was bashing my video really done this forum justice and you all know how to debate. All the name calling and you want me to be nice???If this is what you refer to as a "debate" I do not want to be part of it. I think all the name calling from the "members" of this forum really should make horse and hound proud. What a joke!!!

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i for one didn't have a problem with the video.....as i remarked in my reply...

i too think the rider has a stable and light seat.

i hope you post some more as we could do with a few more folk from different "horsey cultures" that we can learn from..

oh and WELCOME
 
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I don't know anything about 'racking' but have to say the little one looked very young and immature to be ridden.

Can you tell us something about it, and why it's so useful to start them so young?

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I'm don't want to get too drawn in to the who's right / who's wrong bit of the filly starting early - but just curious rackingon that you seem very intent on defending your self - but haven't answered the questions that people have asked about why the horses are started so early? Just curious?

And welcome!
 
I wouldn't wish to speak for someone else on here, but I am assuming that Rackingon does not want to reply to any other comments because she may have absolutely no intention of remaining on this forum? Except to say what the situation actually was?

Horses are very often backed and ridden out at this age over here. I back most of mine at 2.
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Most horses I know of are backed at two as well. I only questioned how hard this one was working not yet fully two with a large man on her.


This was explained and it sounds as though she may not be worked that hard after all...............
 
I think that its causes like this that the equine welfare charities/originations can and should be looking in to things as that video of the horse was just unfair.
 
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I think that its causes like this that the equine welfare charities/originations can and should be looking in to things as that video of the horse was just unfair.

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i think you ought to look at the "horseworld" as a whole, and not just how we "british" perceive horse ownership.....

i can see nothing wrong with this vid..TBH if i could sit trot like this guy i'd be made up!!
 
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Yes I will agree he has a very nice seat! I had noticed that too!

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Um, sorry but he does not have a particularly great seat - the whole point of this gait (the rack) is that it is very smooth, nothing like a trot, not at all bouncy, and VERY easy to sit to. It's a four-beat gait, more like a very fast walk than anything else (I think another term for this gait is 'running walk'). Most of us do not bounce at a walk, whether we have good seats or not!
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