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fatpiggy said:
Blimey, its very reassuring to hear that these nut-jobs are out at large in the community. I'd be tempted to send one final text message to say that you have already involved the police and they agree that you have a case for harrassment against her. Had she been sane and reasonable I see no reason why ex-owners shouldn't like to keep in touch, but she has well overstepped the mark. Incidentally, wouldn't she know that he was a bad loader so bringing a trailer would be a waste of time?
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She would if she'd done anything with him, I paid for a transported to collect him, when they got there they found him tied up with a plastic bag with a letter (stating this was the horse to be moved) and his passport in. Not the caring owner she's portraying herself to be

Faracat said:
Find the reciept. Scan it onto your computer. Keep the original safe, as passports are not proof of ownership - the reciept is.

Warn your YO/family about what she has said.

Contact MHOL, to get advice - treat her threat seriously - is she deluded enough to try to steal him away in the night?

Maybe get the horse freezemarked and link yourself with him on NED Online.
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Whats does MHOL stand for? :)

I've text my old yard owner in case she goes there, ex YO has agreed to say she hasnt heard from me in months.

Family know, my dad suggested putting a bull in the field to warn her off :D

I will look in to getting him freezemarked when I get back. :)

I dont think she'd actually take him, but at the same time I never thought she'd threaten too. :rolleyes:

Thanks :)


Oh, how would I get in touch with an "equine" part of the police?
 
sheep said:
Wow, can't believe how this has escalated- your horse is very lucky he was sold to you!
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Same, I only started this thread as a general whinge at an over-protective old owner...:o

Have told everyone I can think of, and tbh its a three hour journey from her house to my local area so I there most likely idle threats, but it wont hurt to be extra viligant.

Just wish I wasnt going away now. :(
 
MHOL = Missing Horses on Loan - there's a user from there on here if you look in the 'stolen' section. I think their username is MHOL actually? Sure they'd be able to give you some advice.:)
 
Spudlet said:
MHOL = Missing Horses on Loan - there's a user from there on here if you look in the 'stolen' section. I think their username is MHOL actually? Sure they'd be able to give you some advice.:)
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They know how owners can protect themselves from loans going wrong, so I'm sure that they would have advice to protect yourself from nutty ex-owners.
 
I'd speak to the police and if they won't speak to her get a solicitor to send her a letter with a copy of the receipt saying that the horse is legally yours and future contact will be harassment.
Then and now photos would be useful if you have them.
 
Do make the police aware of this. Show them the threats you have received, and also show them the receipt. Take copies of the receipt and keep it safe. Keep all texts and emails from her, both the threatening ones, the ones offering to buy him back and any that acknowledge that she sold him to you. They could be important evidence if there is a legal dispute over ownership.

If you haven't already get his passport in your name, get him put in your name on NED and consider a freeze mark.
 
Omg what a nutter!! I don't see anything wrong with updating old owners about their old horses & letting them visit now and again, it's a lovely gesture, but they must respect that it is now your horse and that you make all decisions over it! Definitely wouldn't let her come and visit after all she's said, she crossed the line a long time ago and needs to understand that she sold him, didn't loan him out, and she definitely has no say in what you do with him. She seems a bit of a loony to be bringing a trailer down, very worrying. As others have said, I'd inform the police just incase, take photos, copy the receipt and save all emails and texts from her incase you need to use them as evidence. Lock the gates & let others know to keep an eye out. I'd either send her one last text saying that you've had enough, he's yours & you don't want her to contact you any more, or just delete & block her number - she'll work out what she's done to deserve it!
Try to enjoy your time away, it sounds like there will be a lot of eyes watching over him, you can always ring your yard owner/friends to check everythings ok while you're gone.
 
ABC said:
Oh I give up, have deleted her number and ignored her texts, I need to try and block her number.

I've just recieved a lovely voicemail stating I stole her horse from her and she wants him back now and if he's not at a certain livery yard by Sunday morning the police will be involved. :rolleyes:

I have the reciept she gave me for him somewhere, might take a picture of it and email her it, or is that too childish? :o
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This is verging on harrassement now. She sold him, obviously she now regrets that, but its her loss. I would almost be tempted to get some legal advice, do you belong to the BHS?
 
Oh no. Do NOT NOT NOT ignore this. If you read through the threads on the stolen part of the forum, you will find that the police are very slow to get involved in what they deem to be a civil matter as it comes down to one persons word against another. You must find your receipt, photocopy it and officially log this with the police. Then and by recorded delivery, you must send a copy of your receipt, confirm you have taken advice and you have notified the police. Any further communication will be deemed to be harrasement. We are all rolling our eyes and see the funny side but - if - god forbid she stole your horse you would have a seriously hard task to get it back again. Passport Does Not Mean Ownership. Its irrelevant. In fact there is no legal documentation which clearly shows whom a horse belongs to. Associate yourself with your horses passport with NED online as well and take this threat very very seriously.
 
I would also say, don't block her number and email. Let her keep sending messages and keep copies as evidence. Just stop responding, or use the broken record response of "you sold him to me on xx/xx/xx he is my horse and I am not selling him to you." or similar.
 
amymay said:
Ignore her? Tell her to do one? Delete her number from your phone?

Any or all of the above would be perfectly reasonable.
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^^^This...

Tell her in no uncertain terms, those two universal words of **** off....

...AND I'd be telling her if she doesn't back off, I'll be having her up for harressment as well....
 
Thanks, I've spoken to a police officer who has advised that I keep my mobile at home whilst Im away and get my mum/dad/someone to write down a diary of anymore messages so that when I come back we can talk about it, and possibly threaten further action.

She's also said that if my mum or dad do ring then they will be quick to respond because I've mentioned it already but we discussed security arrangements and she said that he's as secure as he could possibly be.
 
ABC said:
Thanks, I've spoken to a police officer who has advised that I keep my mobile at home whilst Im away and get my mum/dad/someone to write down a diary of anymore messages so that when I come back we can talk about it, and possibly threaten further action.

She's also said that if my mum or dad do ring then they will be quick to respond because I've mentioned it already but we discussed security arrangements and she said that he's as secure as he could possibly be.
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Is your horse kept on a livery yard ABC, or at home???
 
Ignore her it's your horse now and she will have to accept it and I mean ignore her if you meet her and she says something answer sweetly really or do you or something like that then delete it from your mind she will get the message don't explain don't justify because you dont have to because it's your horse now.
I bought a horse recently and his old owner comes to clinics and things to watch him it made me nervous at first but now I thinks it's nice they liked him enough to take the time to see him. I am a bit ring shy myself perhaps it will finally cure me it certainly makes me try hard !
I hope you can smooth this over without a major fall out it's rarely worth falling out with people as life is very short.
 
amymay said:
Ok. The gate is padlocked and secure etc.? And your parents will be looking after the horse whilst your away etc.......?
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Yes, and yes :)

Police also advised blocking the bigger entrance (the only one that would fit a trailer through with no difficulties) so I'm going to leave my car parked there and get a taxi to the airport. We've also been advised to put some fake security cameras up but not quite sure if they'd make any difference?

Goldenstar - I really didnt want to fall out with her, I wanted to remain civil and still keep in touch, but she was the one who left a nasty voicemail claiming I stole him and she wants him back etc. Im only protecting myself and my horse by being extra vigilant, especially as I'll be away for the next few days :)
 
OMG just read the last few posts as I started mine earlier. You need to call the police if only to get it logged perhaps if you know a solicitor who give you a bit of advice of the best way to protect yourself and the horse sounds like she's seriously lost it, and it's a good lesson to us all always get a reciept when you buy a horse is he microchipped ?if not get it done pronto, get together all your vets bill as they usually have the horses name on to prove you have had care and control of him and of course the reciept in case you have to convince the police fast he is yours if you are a BHS gold member you have access to legal advice though that now would be a good time to use it!
 
What a nightmare! It sounds as though you have everything covered security wise. I would actually e mail her to say that you have taken her threats seriously and have spoken to the police, and that they said that they would take the matter very seriously if this goes any further... It may just make her think a bit.

I'm another one all for keeping in contact with old owners in the sense that they exchange texts now and again and visit once a year etc (just sold our much loved pony and it means so much to know how he is), but I wouldn't dream of commenting on how he is treated. He is not my pony anymore and I decided to put him up for sale, not them.

In this case, it sounds as though things have gone way too far and that the contact now needs to be cut - at least for several months or until she calms down and apologiese!

Good luck.
 
Why would someone who had sold their horse claime you had stolen him? She's off her bleeding trolley. I keep intouch with my horses old owner and have become good friends. But if she ever tried to get him back or criticise the way I look after him then contact over I'm afraid.
 
ABC said:
she sold him because she couldnt handle him on the ground and now he's perfect on the ground

I've got a feeling she thinks she'd sell him for a year, let someone put the hard work in, and then buy him back :confused:
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This is probably why she's behaving the way she is. Find the receipt, make copies, and speak to a solicitor.
 
ABC - on the chance that she comes on the forum - she doesn't know where your parents' house is does she? Awful situation, glad the police taking you seriously. Hope she is all chat and no trousers x
 
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