OLD vs NEW; Correct Dress, Manners and £ available for Hunting

MrWoof,

Thank you, I shall PM you though would be happy to purchase I don't expect freebies!

I have a tweed (inherited from mother when she did her bhs exams (and failed!) age 18) and long boots from the same era both which fit me lovely but have always been told that the tweed would be incorrect. Plus if I chose to wear my body protector (I know I know!- but my mother might kill me otherwise- am 26 but she thinks she has spent enough time this summer looking after horse while I have been injured) which is black (not pink/purple!) it would look stupid.

Having read thread though I think I shall get a proper stock so next post will be how to tie it.

I only get involved in these threads because I think it does some people who have been hunting for years to have a slightly different view on things presented to them, and maybe aren't said to them by newbies in the hunt field as we are easily intimidated and a bit nervous!

I went out once with a friend last year and found the hunt very friendly and accommodating which is why I want to go out again this year, and as I have now passed my trailer test and will be on the insurance of the 4x4 at the end of the month I can take myself :)
 
Agree R2R, when I was bloodhounding regularly, I had to work all the over-time I could possibly manage and go without all but the basics to survive! Even so, I could not afford to foxhunt (bloodhounding is cheaper). I do, however, have all the gear. My coat was my mother's (sadly, a little too tight ATM), other stuff I have saved up for, bought second hand and in sales or had for christmas or birthdays. It is not impossible! Also have a hunt coat that is too big for me, PM for details!

These days, I would only be able to have the odd days hunting, as not only would I not be able to afford much more, I also need a babysitter! Sadly, my horse is no longer up to it anyway. :'(
 
Oh dear.
I am not "preaching" in any shape or form.
I am just saying that my family DID live on a (very tight)shoestring when I was younger in order that we could hunt. My father, being a Welsh Dairy Farmer, meant money was extremely tight.
Please read my message to "ester".
PM me your measurements. Best regards.
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No, you are saying if you live on a shoestring you can afford to hunt in the right kit, I am saying I live on a shoestring and cant, and asking what you suggest I do in my circumstance, because I am not the only one?
 
Oh dear.
I am not "preaching" in any shape or form.
I am just saying that my family DID live on a (very tight)shoestring when I was younger in order that we could hunt. My father, being a Welsh Dairy Farmer, meant money was extremely tight.
Please read my message to "ester".
PM me your measurements. Best regards.
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No, you are saying if you live on a shoestring you can afford to hunt in the right kit, I am saying I live on a shoestring and cant, and asking what you suggest I do in my circumstance, because I am not the only one?
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Point taken.
However, I have already suggested to you that I might have a HW Coat which might fit. FOC.
Do stop moaning, please.
When my family was farming, we had far less "ready cash" than any of my peers' families during my school days.
Yes, maybe we were "Asset Rich" but really VERY, VERY "Cash Poor".
One learns to survive on what one has in one's pocket at the time - and families prioritise income.
Thankfully, my much beloved father did not frequent the pub very often and spent his very limited spare cash on his children and his wife.
 
Mine is teetotal too, however being in my 20's I have had to stop asking for so many cash handouts.. :)

I have pmed you my details, I am not moaning MrWoof, I am stating that some peoples version of shoestrings are somewhat different to others :) and I do, and still do beleive, that someone aboard a fit, well turned out horse wearing whatever jacket they can muster, shirt, tie, pullover and boots and gaiters should be made to feel as welcome as a seasoned hunter.

:)
 
I agree and yes I have most of the proper kit barring the patey as I borrow mums for eventing and hunt in my crash hat which I also showjump in when eventing as I dont see the neccesity for two hats when one does. But I dont see why anyone who doesnt hunt regulary should be slated for wearing a show jacket instead of a wool jacket. At the end of the day on cold wet day they will be the ones suffering. At intermediate I compete in my hunting jacket again because I cant see the point on having two jackets, yes when its baking hot I suffer but thats my look out I still look smart and tidy. I was always told that hunting was the best value fun you can have with your horse for the reason that overall it is cheaper, you dont need numerous bits of kit and you as people have said most packs welcome supporters and dont worry about what their wearing just that they have fun.
 
I agree with a lot of what Rosiie has said - and a a newbie to hunting I do hope I enjoy it enough and maybe next year I will be investing in some proper kit and will be able to plait a little better (hot cross bun plaits are all I am achieving at present!)

And no B, the pot above was aimed at OP, not you :)

It seems like there are a vocal few, who seem intent on making hunting look like an elitist middle class sport that cares more about turnout than enjoyment.

Believe me I would love to be able to kit myself out in the best, and I agree its a worthwhile investment and something I do aspire to, but for now its a side thought, and I'm sure my hunt is grateful for my support, whatever my attire.
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You can be sure of that.
 
I have replied to the post further down & have to reply here as well as I am incredulous at some of the opinions posted on here. So, if I get this right, according to Mr Woof & some others, we are clearly all wild living drunks which means that we cannot afford to hunt & pay out for a whole load of kit which we may not wear if we do not hunt on a regular basis. Clearly my assumptions about hunting are correct, that it is practiced by a load of pretentious snobs who will be completely unwelcoming & sneer at anyone who is not in their clique if God forbid they should "only" have a lovely made to measure show jacket like mine. I have read enough on here to put me off ever trying hunting for life, at my first BSJA show I found people welcoming & helpful, I made friends over the 3 days we were there & we all supported each other, which is how I imagined hunting was, obviously it isn't & I'll stick to shows thanks.
 
Kizzywiz dont let people put you off!!! Like at BSJA, hunting has a (small) few people like that, the majority are welcoming and frienly!
 
I reckon hunting is A LOT more friendly than BSJA actually.
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Really??? I didn't notice anyone chuntering on about what other riders were or were not wearing, whether they had the exact shirt or jacket as recommended about 200 years ago, they just got on & jumped. When I had some bad rounds I received commiseration, when she jumped well people were pleased for me.
 
I reckon hunting is A LOT more friendly than BSJA actually.
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Really??? I didn't notice anyone chuntering on about what other riders were or were not wearing, whether they had the exact shirt or jacket as recommended about 200 years ago, they just got on & jumped. When I had some bad rounds I received commiseration, when she jumped well people were pleased for me.
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thats because the BSJA crew wear whatever they want, (horses and riders alike). I actually hated my experiences with BSJA over the last two years and felt people looked at me odd because I didn't have anything bright and sparkly on.
 
Hunting is not actually like that though! It's really not. Yes we discuss things on here, because that is what a formum is for but it doesn't mean everyone sits around gossiping about what people are doing wrong.

having done quite a bit of both, definitely think people are more cheerful hunting. you are missing out if you don't even give it a go. Who cares what anyone on here thinks?
 
I reckon hunting is A LOT more friendly than BSJA actually.
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Really??? I didn't notice anyone chuntering on about what other riders were or were not wearing, whether they had the exact shirt or jacket as recommended about 200 years ago, they just got on & jumped. When I had some bad rounds I received commiseration, when she jumped well people were pleased for me.
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thats because the BSJA crew wear whatever they want, (horses and riders alike). I actually hated my experiences with BSJA over the last two years and felt people looked at me odd because I didn't have anything bright and sparkly on.
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Exactly my point, as apparently I couldn't wear my long boots hunting as they have dressage tops, so perhaps I should rush out & buy another pair for £250 just to hunt in. BSJA stipulates long boots, not long boots then a whole description of exactly the type of boot, so BSJAers do not wear "what we want" but what is allowed in the rules, big difference being there are not a whole load petty stipulations making it inaccesible to people. I seriously doubt anyone stared at you for not wearing sparkles, I train with an international showjumper, he certainly doesn't wear any. So the reason you didn't like BSJA was because people "wore what they wanted" OMG!! that says it all & confirms my point that many people who hunt are snobbish & more concerned with protocol than inviting people to join in, & that should I turn up in a jumping saddle wearing a show jacket, long boots with dressage tops & a skull cap, I would be stared at, gossiped about & made to feel unwelcome. Thats why I won't be joining you, bye...
 
*sigh* even though no body has even said that? :smirk:

BYE!
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But they did, several poster have said that everyone should buy the right gear, even if its second hand, & made disparaging remarks about how correct turnout is everything. I'll watch out for you sparkleless & in event gear at BSJA, 5 point breastplate & all. :smirk:
 
Quite frankly Kizzywiz I'd be happy to see you out with us dressed as you describe, or even with your arse painted blue, provided that:
1. You are not a danger to yourself or others, and
2. You pay your way.
 
But Kizzywizz, have you read all of the debate - yes there are some posts on here that have said you should turn up wearing x, y and z but the great majority have said that hunting welcomes all and that it would be ridiculous to expect a first timer to have all the gear. I don't think anyone with a jumping saddle, show jacket, long boots, etc etc would look out of place. The only reason I would recommend a frequent hunter build up to have all the gear over time is because it's more practical and warm.

I'm sure your local hunt would welcome you dressed as you suggest and they'd surprise you by their friendliness.
 
Quite frankly Kizzywiz I'd be happy to see you out with us dressed as you describe, or even with your arse painted blue, provided that:
1. You are not a danger to yourself or others, and
2. You pay your way.
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Ha ha, thats made me smile, my local hunt would be the HH, so when I turn up with a blue bum, I'll see what reception I get. Seriously though, I guess its like any sport, you get the stalwarts born to it chuntering on about tradition, & newer people coming in trying to move with the times a bit & open it up to more people. Just maybe then I'll give it a go & judge for myself. Interesting debate we've had tho...
 
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