Omeprazole?

Not from the US although it definitely looks like that on the site.
I think they also do the syringes aswell now.
There is a cheaper alternative to Gastroguard, my friend who was in-insured used it. Not sure of the name now. Maybe Peptizole or something? Still expensive but not as expensive!
 
Gastroguard is offf licence Pepizole was it’s first competition it’s a good alternative in every way I use it here .
If I had a horse with ulcers here I would be going for the weekly injections .
 
Unscientific observation:

My horse was having the weekly injections, but a shortage from the manufacturer meant that after 3 injections he had to swap to daily peptizole syringes.
On the weekly injections I could see a definite steady improvement. Since being on Peptizole I'm convinced he's got worse again.
Rescoping this week so will be interesting to see what they find.
 
Goldenstar said:
Are you feeding the pepizole on an empty stomach ?
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As far as I can without totally starving my horse yes.

Horse comes in at 2pm to a haynets which he eats within about an hour.

I arrive at about 5.30pm and give syringe straight away as I then have to wait 45 minutes before giving his feed with the Sucralfate in.

It's all a bit of a faff. Vet now has the injection back in stock so will discuss options with her on Thursday.
 
I think they advise that first thing in the morning is best .
I do mine at five am .
Although I will always use the injections now.
Wi think it’s likely that the fact he’s been grazing and had hay that’s the issue .
 
He’s not been scoped, but he displays classic ulcer behaviour: Girthy, tail swishy, intermittent loose droppings, picky eater. A professional (not a vet but highly qualified in their own right) told me about Abler, and I know he had omeprazole in his last home - without being scoped - and he improved.
I would be happy to have him scoped, but our local vets don’t do it and I would have to wait for the visiting specialist they bring in, which could be months away.
It is more for his comfort, really. If I can make him more comfortable in the meantime, that seems like a good way forward.
 
They have one a week usually for four sometimes six weeks I have not used them yet much easier than having to have the horse on restricted forage overnight which you really need to do with the paste to get the best result .
 
Flicker said:
He’s not been scoped, but he displays classic ulcer behaviour: Girthy, tail swishy, intermittent loose droppings, picky eater. A professional (not a vet but highly qualified in their own right) told me about Abler, and I know he had omeprazole in his last home - without being scoped - and he improved.
I would be happy to have him scoped, but our local vets don’t do it and I would have to wait for the visiting specialist they bring in, which could be months away.
It is more for his comfort, really. If I can make him more comfortable in the meantime, that seems like a good way forward.
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If he's improved previously with omeprazole I wouldn't scope and I'd do a trial. Less stressful for the horse and you'll soon have your answer. I've heard lots of positive experiences with abler and personally would be happy to use it. I'm sure you know it's illegal to import.
 
As the company who manufacture and distribute the Abler products is based in China (or somewhere in the Far East) there isn’t much the VMD can do to shut them down, other than shut down all of the re-seller sites (which are illegal)

Unlike human medicine, it isn’t legal to import unlicensed medications for animals into the UK.

Also to note, that the QC on Abler products is, er, lacking; and several times it has been found that the amount of active ingredient in the powder/granules is extremely variable, and below that stated.
 
Shavings, I see you live in the Isle of Man - forgive my ignorance but is your legal system the same as ours in the UK?
Casey, thanks for the information!
 
Casey76 said:
Also to note, that the QC on Abler products is, er, lacking; and several times it has been found that the amount of active ingredient in the powder/granules is extremely variable, and below that stated.
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Not correct, I don't think. To my knowledge, it has been officially tested only once, by the US Food and Drug Administration. And although it was found to be slightly lower than stated on the packet, it was still within the effective therapeutic range for Omeprazole use in horses.

I actually found that testing very reassuring, quite the opposite of what the FDA intended!

It is illegal to import, though, no mistaking that. Though how well they would get on with a prosecution when the drug is an over the counter medicine in the UK, freely available on eBay, and not illegal to import for personal use, I'm not sure.
 
You might consider using ranitidine - having done some research it’s used regularly for horses with ulcers and is much cheaper. It’s a lot of tablets - plenty of info on internet re dosage - and you need to feed it 3 times a day but it’s an alternative. Might be worth discussing with your vet - from reading you need to consider impact on liver etc so perhaps they blood test first? I’ve not used it but I’m considering possibility mine has ulcers (she’s off for a horsepital work up next week for a query back/SI issue so need that sorted first).
 
Ceriann, thank you I will look into this.
Re: your horse, my equine physio said that a lot of horses with query hind end issues improve markedly in their movement once ulcers are discovered and treated. So it may be worth looking into with your horse. Fingers crossed you have a positive outcome at horsepital.
 
fathorselover said:
Is anybody able to say how much the omeprazole injection cost them, per week? I know my friend has asked the vet but the cost was something like £180 per jab!
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Yep this is about right. My mare had a course of 4 injections spaced a week apart. Add in half price area visit each time and was easily over £200 per injection
 
Flicker said:
Shavings, I see you live in the Isle of Man - forgive my ignorance but is your legal system the same as ours in the UK?
Casey, thanks for the information!
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When it comes to this matter yes our legal system is the same as the uk
when it comes to other things such as driving no not even close! we learn to drive at 16 years old and where you see the national speed limit sign there isn't a limit!
 
Shavings said:
When it comes to this matter yes our legal system is the same as the uk
when it comes to other things such as driving no not even close! we learn to drive at 16 years old and where you see the national speed limit sign there isn't a limit!
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Wow, that’s insane! In a good way.
 
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