OMG I'm so angry!

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A girl started riding a horse at our yard, complete novice rider who then decided she was getting her own horse. We all said if you want a horse get something older and a cob. We knew we couldn't talk her out of buying at all.
She kept showing me 3 and 4 year olds and tb ex racers. I told her they werent suitable and she needed an older horse that knows it's job.
Anyway, she bought a 3 year old quarter horse. She said she was paying someone to back it for her and that it would take 3 months. The guy tonight made my blood boil and my heart sink! He had jockey length stirrups, sat on the cantle of the saddle, arms in the air flapping like he was trying to fly, pulling on the poor horses head while booting it. Didn't even do rising trot, just bounced.
So 2 of the lasses from my yard went to have a quiet word, he said 'you gotta problem with me' in an aggressive tone, and one of the lasses said you can't ride your gonna ruin the horse. He turned round and said 'well as if you can ride!' and his mate said 'look we don't know anything about horses, just trying to help her out!'
I was like WHATTTT! you don't know horses and you are riding a 3 year old!
The girl who owns the horse was like well whats wrong with it?
Honestly you would have to see it to believe it, imagine a novice riders first trot before you teach them to rise, except that he wasn't being taught and he was doing full laps. That horse showed how good he is today, by not rearing or broncing!
Nickie
 
that poor horse god knows what its in for.
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I'm going to ring her tomorrow, and attempt to talk her out of it, we have a fantastic guy at our yard, who teaches me sometimes and he would happily ride it for her.
The owner of the horse was stood holding lunge line, in a big tangle with a confused look on her face, she's never lunged before in her life, she didnt have a whip, and neither did the rider, who was whacking the poor horse on the bum with his hand,
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Nickie
 
She told me about him last week, said he is a new instructor so the price is cheap until he gets more clients, now I don't know if this is meant to be the same guy, or if he has cancelled and this lad is attempting to do some work.
I can't watch them do that to the poor horse, but I don't know what to do, I will try my best to talk to her, but if she refuses to listen I can't do anything about it
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Poor horse is so sweet, when you go to field he trots over, very people friendly, at this rate he'll start hating people, and in a way I hope that happens, rather he refuses to be caught then continue to get hurt in this way
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Nickie
 
She said she was on a budget of £1200, and that older horses that knew their job cost more. All she has done in terms of riding is walk and trot for 20 minutes hack nearly every night for about 3 months, she said she'd like to learn to jump, she needed an older horse.
I told her that yes the initial cost of a baby is cheaper but they are hard work, cost a fortune and are easy to ruin. With him yanking the horses mouth and bouncing on his back, the vet bills will quickly rocket, he's got a lot of growing to do, his poor back
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This lad was meant to be doing 2 hours schooling a night with this horse! That hasn't had anything done, it was in field when she bought it, just had a sit on him when trying out, she's had it a week, not lunged or long reined, just brought in and jumped on! 2 hours on a baby is a joke!
Nickie
 
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A girl started riding a horse at our yard, complete novice rider who then decided she was getting her own horse. We all said if you want a horse get something older and a cob.
<font color="blue">Sorry but why should she get a cob just because she is a novice? You may weel have led this girl into believing she can have an easy ride with a cob, but are you experienced enough to know that that is not true? </font> We knew we couldn't talk her out of buying at all.
She kept showing me 3 and 4 year olds and tb ex racers. I told her they werent suitable and she needed an older horse that knows it's job.
Anyway, she bought a 3 year old quarter horse. She said she was paying someone to back it for her and that it would take 3 months. The guy tonight made my blood boil and my heart sink! He had jockey length stirrups, sat on the cantle of the saddle, arms in the air flapping like he was trying to fly, pulling on the poor horses head while booting it. Didn't even do rising trot, just bounced.
So 2 of the lasses from my yard went to have a quiet word, he said 'you gotta problem with me' in an aggressive tone, and one of the lasses said you can't ride your gonna ruin the horse. He turned round and said 'well as if you can ride!' and his mate said 'look we don't know anything about horses, just trying to help her out!'
I was like WHATTTT! you don't know horses and you are riding a 3 year old!
The girl who owns the horse was like well whats wrong with it?
Honestly you would have to see it to believe it, imagine a novice riders first trot before you teach them to rise, except that he wasn't being taught and he was doing full laps. That horse showed how good he is today, by not rearing or broncing!
Nickie

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I would stay out of it. Sounds like a nightmare situation which could end in tears, but on the other hand could end OK if she gets herself someone who will help her and not judge her. She shouldn't have bought the horse, but she has, so perhaps a gentle guiding hand rather than 'OMG how ridiculous, she's so stupid' would be best for the horse?
 
Just shows how ignorant people are. What a shame for the poor horse. Researcher say that a young horse has an attention span of 17 minutes, so everything you want to accomplish in a session with a youngster needs to be done within that time span, in a controlled and sensible fashion. I had a youngster (who I've just written about as a reply to another post on here) and it was a total disaster as I hadn't the experience or patience and I was going to sell him before he broke his leg in the field and had to be PTS.

Tehre is nothing really that you can do.
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Sorry LankyDoodle, have to disagree, when it comes to a horse's welfare (which it obviously is) I think Nickie has every right to try and help the horse, and owner.. JMO. I think it was a very stupid decision for the girl to buy this horse, but it's what she wanted. Now, she should be getting help from experienced people...
 
Honestly what sort of person would sell a 3yr old quarter horse to someone who knows nothing about horses?
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This is so frustrating and so sad
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I can forecast that someone will end up badly hurt in this mess and the horse will get labelled as 'dangerous'. Poor chap
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But niagaraduval, that is what I am saying
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But saying how stupid the person is is not helping hte horse, is it? Guiding the owner and offering her non-judgemental help (as per my post) is what will help the horse. You have just said exactly what I said and told me that I was wrong! ? Oh, I suppose I did tell OP to stay out of it, but that's because, like I said in my post, the person who bought the horse needs help not judgement as she's made the mistake now.
 
Could you offer to ride the baby for her, to show her how it 'should' be done, and explain *everything* you are doing, and why you're doing it?
 
It is all too easy to judge people especially if you have more experience than them and know that they are not doing things the way you would do them. I suggest that either you or someone who has the experience if you don't offers to help them bring the horse on correctly.Perhaps someone could lend her a copy of the book birth to backing or another good book for young horses and give her every encouragement to get it right first time before one of them gets hurt,after all green and green make for black and blue.
 
I rang Redwings after some-one local to us imported an unlicensed Friesian 3yr old which they intended to keep entire. They were obviously very novice and had no idea of what to do, their 'expert' friend wasn't much better and many of us were concerned for our own horses' safety. I didn't get any feedback from Redwings BUT the horse was gelded, now has a companion and more secure fencing. It might be worth a try, as Redwings do try to educate.
 
I would suggest that you contact World Horse Welfare as this is a welfare issue and they will be only to pleased to send one of their inspectors down to have a word with the owner of the horse. Tel: 08000 480180 World Horse Welfare
 
Sorry have been out all day so only just read the post.
Lankydoodle: I wasn't calling the owner stupid or judging her, I have tried to help and I am continuing to try. It's the rider that I think was stupid for getting on when he doesn't have a clue about horses.
I also, eventhough I admit it sounds like its what I meant, I didn't mean that the horse should be a cob and that all cobs are great, and that all tb are spooky. I just meant she needed something that knows its job and is 'easy' such as alot of cobs are.
I text her this morning (decided that if I ring or talk in person she may get defensive and not give me chance to say what I needed) I told her everything, what the rider was doing wrong, what it will cause and that she really needs someone experienced. She has now said that she has a professional coming twice a week and asked me to help her, she wants me to lunge while she rides on days when the instructor isn't there. I've said I will, so hopefully I can guide her to make a nice horse. *fingers crossed*
Nickie
 
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